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Paul_1986 #21 Posted Apr 16 2018 - 18:23

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The 268 4 is broken as hell. Obviously put in the game to gouge money from players who want to free xp into an OP tier 10. 



Duqe #22 Posted Apr 16 2018 - 18:24

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View PostSovietMemeBear, on Apr 16 2018 - 17:08, said:

Because people tried to play it like actual TD and camped way behind everyone. So the stats weren't great. Then a few good players showed everyone that you could yolo to the front lines like a mongol,bounce pretty much everything by just wiggling the front of the tank and then boom we are here today the single most broken tank ever put in game. 

 

 

 

No kidding, the wthE-100 wasn't this overpowered, at least it had a minute-long reload and no armour to speak of.

Dirizon #23 Posted Apr 16 2018 - 18:24

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View Post_Gungrave_, on Apr 16 2018 - 12:03, said:

 

Hell I knew the thing was broken the moment I bounced an entire clip of 390 pen HEAT rounds from my Foch 155 on its lower plate. Just an FYI that 155 has one of the 3 highest pen in the game.

 

 

Replay please. Distance isn't a factor, as HEAT doesn't degrade. The only thing 395 HEAT is not going through easily on obj 268V4, is the front superstructure shoulder pads and gun mantle. Everything else, you are looking at 75% chance or more. HEAT doesn't use the standard seventy degree autobounce rules, they are bumped up to 85 degrees. Given the two areas that autobounce everything, are only a hundred (mm) and between seventy to seventy-five degrees, that HEAT is chewing through it. 

 

268V4 is not a nightmare because it bounces off 395 HEAT. Heck, three-fourty HEAT from heavy tanks does it in too. lt is a nightmare because it has 252Y syndrome. lt REQUlRES people to use these shells. Which are usually expensive. lt features idiotic Type 5 armour, on a fast chassis, with camo, without the -GD weakness obj 263 and SU had. 

 



Wolfenslaggen #24 Posted Apr 16 2018 - 18:24

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By WarGaming's own server performance measurements this tank is OP. But then again they are incredibly slow to fix or adjust anything.

Duqe #25 Posted Apr 16 2018 - 18:27

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View PostGuido1212, on Apr 16 2018 - 18:13, said:

Yes, it’s a tier 10.  My point is that it’s the same philosophy that created a complete crud storm

last year.  Pethaos they believed that it wouldn’t be as noticed because it’s not a premium.

 

Thank God, I remembered just in time that all tier 10 vehicles are virtually impenetrable anywhere along the front, do 650 damage alpha with almost 300 pen, and 50km/h with ease.

General_Lee_Miserable #26 Posted Apr 16 2018 - 18:30

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View PostKamahl1234, on Apr 16 2018 - 18:22, said:

 

I will say, in all fairness that I have tanks with varied winrates at various tiers, and that those winrates, sometimes having significantly better WR than my averages, isn't always due to a tank simply being OP.

 

Like the AMX M4 45 isn't OP at all, and I ground it on a buddies account to a solid 65% solo (nobody wanted to help me grind it easier), while my norm at that tier is 55% or so.

 

Note, not saying the v4 isn't OP, rather it is. But that simply having a tank have a high win rate over others isn't always tied to OP-ness, but the players ability to "click" with the tanks best used play-style. 

 

Exactly 

 

I've had zero dmg games and several at 1200 to 1300 and won in the 268-V4. I don't call it OP. I call it my good luck charm. 

 

On the flip side, I shouldn't have 41.5% in my WZ-111-5a, with over 2,000 damage per battle. I haven't lit it up in that tank, but I haven't stunk it up either. Something like 900 dmg per would normally get that WR. But, it is what it is.

 

Moral of the story, WR isn't something you can look at as an absolute measure over a short period of time or small sample size. If the 268-V4 has a 57% on NA in 6 months, then I'll change my tune. 



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View PostGeneral_Lee_Miserable, on Apr 16 2018 - 18:30, said:

 

I've had zero dmg games and several at 1200 to 1300 and won in the 268-V4. I don't call it OP. I call it my good luck charm. 

 

 

The answer is simple then.

 

You're objectively bad and still do well in what we can then safely lable as a "crutch vehicle".



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View PostDuqe, on Apr 16 2018 - 18:31, said:

 

The answer is simple then.

 

You're objectively bad and still do well in what we can then safely lable as a "crutch vehicle".

 

No... I average over 2400 dmg per so I am not bad anything in the tank. But, some battles I should have lost, I won. 

Dirizon #29 Posted Apr 16 2018 - 18:33

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By the way, Chrysler GF is broken as snot too. Not lordly broken, like say 252Y, but it is nearing there.

Let us make a heavy tank with power to weight and terrain crossing stats, and heck even track trav like a med-tank. Give it 15mm more pen than the standard APCR it should have got from T32 or M6AE. Not make all those machine gun hubs weakness, modeled in, but instead have them blank. Slap on 4in of side armour, a front lower hull that near requires gold rounds, no weakness on basically a tough lS3 domed turret. All in a package, that is always going 35km/hr, even in 3ft of water. 

 

l am surprised, really surprised they did not give it 51mm of turret roof & engine dock armour, VK.1P stock gun DPM, and the Ravioli speed buff just before pre-launch when they buffed the armour. Make it an exact USA super tank, to oppose defenders. 

 



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I was actually thinking of starting a thread on this topic based on yesterday's play.  All I can say is that I platooned with a clanmate of mine yesterday and he played his Obj 268/4 while I played my Object 268.  The 3/5/7 battles were just a slaughter.  He would just charge straight ahead and battle after battle, rack up 4k+ hp damage and multiple kills.  While I like the occasional roflstomp, even I was starting to feel sorry for the Tier VIII's that just could not do anything before the onslaught.

 

In my Obj 268, I still had to be careful.  With the /4, he did not.



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View PostGeneral_Lee_Miserable, on Apr 16 2018 - 18:32, said:

 

No... I average over 2400 dmg per so I am not bad anything in the tank. But, some battles I should have lost, I won. 

 

Still not a lot in what is, also objectively, the most broken vehicle in the history of the game, looking at statistics among tier 10 vehicles, both old and current.

 

It sure as hell trumps the Wt. E-100's 55%.



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ok guys... go ahead and have your object 268-v4 therapy session.  In the meantime, I'll play mine, and then add some Defender, Chrysler K, and arty for good measure. Happy tanking! 

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View PostDirizon, on Apr 16 2018 - 18:24, said:

 

Replay please. Distance isn't a factor, as HEAT doesn't degrade. The only thing 395 HEAT is not going through easily on obj 268V4, is the front superstructure shoulder pads and gun mantle. Everything else, you are looking at 75% chance or more. HEAT doesn't use the standard seventy degree autobounce rules, they are bumped up to 85 degrees. Given the two areas that autobounce everything, are only a hundred (mm) and between seventy to seventy-five degrees, that HEAT is chewing through it. 

 

268V4 is not a nightmare because it bounces off 395 HEAT. Heck, three-fourty HEAT from heavy tanks does it in too. lt is a nightmare because it has 252Y syndrome. lt REQUlRES people to use these shells. Which are usually expensive. lt features idiotic Type 5 armour, on a fast chassis, with camo, without the -GD weakness obj 263 and SU had. 

 

 

I'm not really hyped about going through 100s of test server replays to find it...:hiding:

 

View PostGeneral_Lee_Miserable, on Apr 16 2018 - 18:39, said:

ok guys... go ahead and have your object 268-v4 therapy session.  In the meantime, I'll play mine, and then add some Defender, Chrysler K, and arty for good measure. Happy tanking! 

 

We aren't delusional like you are saying its fine is like all the baddies saying the waffle was balanced because it was the only tank that allowed them to faceroll their way to green stats.

Edited by _Gungrave_, Apr 16 2018 - 18:44.


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View PostGeneral_Lee_Miserable, on Apr 16 2018 - 18:39, said:

ok guys... go ahead and have your object 268-v4 therapy session.  In the meantime, I'll play mine, and then add some Defender, Chrysler K, and arty for good measure. Happy tanking! 

 

Don't have to be so butthurt about it. You're just not very good and you use whatever is overpowered as a crutch to pad your stats, you do you.

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View PostDuqe, on Apr 16 2018 - 18:42, said:

 

Don't have to be so butthurt about it. You're just not very good and you use whatever is overpowered as a crutch to pad your stats, you do you.

 

My recents show I play better than you at 1/3 the battles that you have. How does it feel to be a slow learner? 

 

 



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View PostDirizon, on Apr 16 2018 - 17:33, said:

By the way, Chrysler GF is broken as snot too. Not lordly broken, like say 252Y, but it is nearing there.

Let us make a heavy tank with power to weight and terrain crossing stats, and heck even track trav like a med-tank. Give it 15mm more pen than the standard APCR it should have got from T32 or M6AE. Not make all those machine gun hubs weakness, modeled in, but instead have them blank. Slap on 4in of side armour, a front lower hull that near requires gold rounds, no weakness on basically a tough lS3 domed turret. All in a package, that is always going 35km/hr, even in 3ft of water. 

 

l am surprised, really surprised they did not give it 51mm of turret roof & engine dock armour, VK.1P stock gun DPM, and the Ravioli speed buff just before pre-launch when they buffed the armour. Make it an exact USA super tank, to oppose defenders. 

 

 

​Chrysler WAS broken, but no one plays it anymore, so there goes that.... 268-4 will be played from now till perpetuity until it gets nerfed... IF it gets nerfed. Most likely will take a year or two.

 

Like I've said in many threads, the devs don't play the game they actually make... this is why they keep releasing broken tanks and horrible maps. If they actually did play, all of them are tomatoes or have the combined games under their belt of 10k or less.



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View PostDuqe, on Apr 16 2018 - 12:42, said:

 

Don't have to be so butthurt about it. You're just not very good and you use whatever is overpowered as a crutch to pad your stats, you do you.

 

ha ha...too funny

telecastermds #38 Posted Apr 16 2018 - 18:57

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Funniest part is the 268 weighs like 80 tons and is way faster than a Centurion AX and STRV-103B which have no armor and weigh way less.

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View Postsleeper_agent, on Apr 16 2018 - 18:54, said:

 

ha ha...too funny

 

48% WR is pretty funny. I wonder who has that.... 

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View PostGeneral_Lee_Miserable, on Apr 16 2018 - 11:11, said:

I've been penned in the view port by a Lowe firing AP. Truth. The hysteria around this tank is mindblowing. Just learn to aim. Fire some premium if you have to. 

 

and on test I've full HESH penned it with the FV 4005 - doesn't mean that such occurrences are common place.

 

a look at any of the tank curves over on wotstats shows the thing stupidly over performing at basically every skill level, which by definition is over powered.

 

the agility for such armor is what's so absurdly broken.  the grille 15 was "too agile" so it had to have a nerf.  meanwhile, this thing weighs nearly as much as a JpzE100 and can out run medium tanks...






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