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Nunya_000 #21 Posted Apr 19 2018 - 19:26

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View PostFluffyBadBad, on Apr 19 2018 - 10:16, said:

another example of why team damage should be turned off

 

I disagree.  Team damage adds an aspect to the game that makes it feel a little more realistic instead of just "Mariocarts with Guns".  While there are certainly jerks that abuse the system, those jerks are usually not seen that often....at least not in my experience.  Those jerks will still likely be jerks, even if team damage is turn off.

 

Myself, I like the intensity that team damage provides.  Situation where I could shoot at the red tank, but I might hit the green tank.  These situations cause me to actually think and consider the consequences before I pull the trigger.  It causes me to work with other HTs at the choke point so that I do not pull in front of their shot....or so they do not pull in front of my shot.  i also like to place my tank where a red tank might kill the other red tank when I am in a 2 vs 1 situation.  There is nothing as satisfying when you win a 2 vs 1 because one red tank killed the other.



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View PostFluffyBadBad, on Apr 19 2018 - 13:16, said:

another example of why team damage should be turned off

 

I'm against removing team damage. Although its a TK fix, it doesnt stop someone from physics abusing you or being a pest. If someone wants to be a ****disturber they will.

 

Plus, if you remove TK abilities, the LUCKY medal will be gone too!!!

 


Edited by sleeper_agent, Apr 19 2018 - 19:27.


SwedishEOD #23 Posted Apr 19 2018 - 19:34

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Easy fix , any teamdamage or teamkill in capcircle should instaban the offender for 1hr , problem solved........

 

Edit. And I know punishment in capcircle is already higher then normal TK/TD 


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Gang_Starr #24 Posted Apr 19 2018 - 19:35

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View PostNunya_000, on Apr 19 2018 - 12:55, said:

 

Because I care little about what missions or MOEs that you are grinding.   Any advancements on YOUR account does not help MY account at all. 

 

So get off the damn cap and help your account by shooting red tanks. Don't understand why people play a tanks game just to drive for 5 minutes and then sit in a circle for a minute and a half. I personally play a tanks game so I can shoot tanks, because that's kind of the point.

 

The cap should be used as a tool to split up the enemy team and farm them as they rush back to defend if the game is close and the situation calls for it. When you are winning 10-5 you are a piece of @$&% if you are capping out the match, why even play the game if what you want to do is sit in a circle? 



Kevlar1972 #25 Posted Apr 19 2018 - 19:36

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Just shoot HE into the ground next to the cappers.  I've never turned blue from splash dmg.

TankFullOfBourbon #26 Posted Apr 19 2018 - 19:37

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View PostMajorZeke, on Apr 19 2018 - 18:36, said:

http://wotreplays.eu/site/4309474#tundra-majorzeke-koda_t_24

 

I have instance before where allied tankers say off cap but this is the first time where I have been teamkilled for trying to reach full cap just because the enemy T29 has like 200 hp left and the tanks that wanted to kill him were so far away to do anything.

I am sure there is place you will go to.



MacDaddyMatty #27 Posted Apr 19 2018 - 19:40

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View PostGang_Starr, on Apr 19 2018 - 12:47, said:

Never understood the players that cap out when the friendly team is ahead by 10 tanks. People have missions and MoEs that they're grinding, why would you make the battle crappy for everyone by capping?

 

Devils Advocate:

You're asking someone to give up experience so you can potentially get experience.

Seems hypocritical.

"Don't cap" is no different than if they said "Don't kill, I'm capping".


 

Cap/kill... I say get the win.


 



Nunya_000 #28 Posted Apr 19 2018 - 19:41

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View PostGang_Starr, on Apr 19 2018 - 10:35, said:

 

So get off the damn cap and help your account by shooting red tanks. 

 

 

If I am in a position to actually be the one that does damage to the last 1 or 2 red tanks I will.  I understand that there is much more XP/Credits to be gained by doing damage.  However, if I am not in a position to be the one to do the damage, I will sit my fat butt in the cap circle so that I can go to a new battle with 15 full-health tanks to shoot at.

 

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Don't understand why people play a tanks game just to drive for 5 minutes and then sit in a circle for a minute and a half. I personally play a tanks game so I can shoot tanks, because that's kind of the point.

 

See above.

 

There is a big difference between shooting tanks and driving all over a map to try to find them.

 

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The cap should be used as a tool to split up the enemy team and farm them as they rush back to defend if the game is close and the situation calls for it. When you are winning 10-5 you are a piece of @$&% if you are capping out the match, why even play the game if what you want to do is sit in a circle? 

 

I do not care if our team is winning 14-0....if I am not in a position to do damage, I would rather go to the next battle where there are 15 shiny new red tanks to shoot at. That is a much better use of my time instead of sitting or driving around, knowing that you are going to kill the tank before I get to it.  As you said, why even play the game if your idea of "playing" is for others to sit around waiting for you to find and kill the last tank. 

 

To me, anybody that demands others to be patient while they farm the last damage from the last tank make me think that they are the piece of @$&%.

 

p.s. capping in never my primary goal in a battle, however, it might be if I see that you are on my team.

 



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View PostGang_Starr, on Apr 19 2018 - 18:47, said:

Never understood the players that cap out when the friendly team is ahead by 10 tanks. People have missions and MoEs that they're grinding, why would you make the battle crappy for everyone by capping? 

 

Because people have missions where they have to cap too?

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View PostGang_Starr, on Apr 19 2018 - 10:35, said:

The cap should be used as a tool to split up the enemy team and farm them as they rush back to defend if the game is close and the situation calls for it. When you are winning 10-5 you are a piece of @$&% if you are capping out the match, why even play the game if what you want to do is sit in a circle? 

 

Gee, with the attitude you display here, it makes me want to focus on capping even more!  Name calling is a sure sign that your point is slipping away and you've little more to reinforce it with.

 

Other than that, not everyone is concerned with farming to inflate stats.  Rather just get a win and move on to the next battle.

 

And why even play the game if all you want to do is sit in a circle?  Well maybe the opening screen eludes your notice or fails to be retained in your memory.  You know, where it tells you that your mission is to either capture the base or destroy the enemy team's vehicles?  See, you have an option to do either, so why not choose when there is an opportunity afforded you?



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View Postminneerminneer, on Apr 19 2018 - 12:39, said:

if they shoot you when you are capping they instantly turn blue and if they kill you it is an insta ban

 

Doesn't always work that way ...

 

If they spread-out their TKs and use them judiciously, they won't ever turn blue because they can cover that damage with higher damage to the enemy in-between team kills.


Edited by Blackhorse_One_, Apr 19 2018 - 20:30.


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View PostSwedishEOD, on Apr 19 2018 - 13:42, said:

 

Because people have missions where they have to cap too?

 

Obviously I'm bot talking about cap missions, I have no issues with that. I am talking about the people too lazy to press W.

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View PostGang_Starr, on Apr 19 2018 - 13:35, said:

So get off the damn cap and help your account by shooting red tanks. Don't understand why people play a tanks game just to drive for 5 minutes and then sit in a circle for a minute and a half. I personally play a tanks game so I can shoot tanks, because that's kind of the point.

 

The cap should be used as a tool to split up the enemy team and farm them as they rush back to defend if the game is close and the situation calls for it. When you are winning 10-5 you are a piece of @$&% if you are capping out the match, why even play the game if what you want to do is sit in a circle?

 

Bad dog, Bad!

 

Sorry, but when I get those messages in chat, I tell them they have about that long to kill the remaining enemy.

 

Too many times I've seen trophy hunters get their a$$es handed to them.


Edited by Blackhorse_One_, Apr 19 2018 - 20:03.


SwedishEOD #34 Posted Apr 19 2018 - 20:04

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View PostGang_Starr, on Apr 19 2018 - 19:59, said:

 

Obviously I'm bot talking about cap missions, I have no issues with that. I am talking about the people too lazy to press W.

 

How do you differentiate them?

 

How do you tell one from the other?



Nunya_000 #35 Posted Apr 19 2018 - 20:05

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View PostBlackhorse_One_, on Apr 19 2018 - 11:02, said:

 

Sorry, but when I get those messages in chat, I tell them they have about that long to kill the remaining enemy.

 

 

Lol...that is my response as well.  If they demand I get off cap, my normal answer is "you have <insert cap timer here> seconds to get that last kill, Buttercup".



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View Postsleeper_agent, on Apr 19 2018 - 18:44, said:

 

Ive been killed once capping, there were not banned. I know because they kept moving.

I've been shot MANY times while capping or pushed off cap. You can hold your breath and turn blue before they do unless its more than two shots.

 

​Last week I was actually herded back ON to the Cap by a JS with him turning us both in a circle. I still attempted to leave but he tracked me before I could.  The enemy cap timed out before I could repair and get out of the cap circle. In looking at the replay I noticed that the JS player got High Caliber for his score.  His nearest rival was only a couple of hundred points behind and was about to kill our last opponent. Now THAT'S paying very close attention to the game. Far beyond my meager ability ....... 

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View PostGang_Starr, on Apr 19 2018 - 11:59, said:

 

Obviously I'm bot talking about cap missions, I have no issues with that. I am talking about the people too lazy to press W.

 

If I am in a heavy that took forever to get there in the first place I am certainly not going to "chase" anyone and will cap...

 

The problem here is you seem to want everything to go YOUR way, just sayin.



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I honestly make it a point to cap especially if someone starts yelling kill all no cap.

 

as for team damage adding a sense of “realism” get real. I can understand the first round but once someone has done damage to a friendly all further team damage should be retroactively applied to the damaging person.



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View PostGang_Starr, on Apr 19 2018 - 13:59, said:

 

Obviously I'm bot talking about cap missions, I have no issues with that. I am talking about the people too lazy to press W.

 

You're not getting it.

Lets try this:

The world does not revolve around you.

 



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If someone asks me *politely* to get off cap, I usually will (missions excepted); anyone who is an [edited]about it, will simply make me certain not to get off cap...

 

A win is a win.







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