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Son__Of__Anarchy #1 Posted May 17 2018 - 11:54

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question for those who have it longer than 2 days as i do..

does this tank ever play anything else than tier X?

since 2 days ago when i bought it, i played 11 battles in it so far ALL tier X..

i wonder if its same case as my STRV S1 that NEVER plays anything but tier X..



JTM78 #2 Posted May 17 2018 - 12:04

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Tier 8 MM is garbage, you should have known that it would see tier X matches 93% of the time or more. WoT can not or will not fix tier 8 MM!

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View PostJTM78, on May 17 2018 - 12:04, said:

Tier 8 MM is garbage, you should have known that it would see tier X matches 93% of the time or more. WoT can not or will not fix tier 8 MM!

 

i have no problem playing tier X.. in fact tiers IX and X is the only ones i enjoy to play..

yet there are moments that someone needs extra credits.. and thats the reason i bought this thing.. for grinding credits..

kinda not the best if only battles it gets in are tier X.. i find it kinda logic/fair for my STRV S1 to be playing only tier X with its 288mm penetration and 390 alpha damage..

unfortunatelly i cant say the same for the AMX M4 49 when it can ONLY pen 232mm and cause 260 to 320 damage per shot..



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You could play it in Frontline... A lot of the tier 8s must be there anyway, further worsening ordinary tier 8 Mm.



Son__Of__Anarchy #5 Posted May 17 2018 - 12:14

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View PostFrozenKemp, on May 17 2018 - 12:11, said:

You could play it in Frontline... A lot of the tier 8s must be there anyway, further worsening ordinary tier 8 Mm.

 

yes i do that and in fact i made a couple millions last night.. the matter is that the frontline event has a short expiration date.. but this thing will be staying still in my garage...

i would like it better if it has a more fair -for its abilities- matchmaking..



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The only different MM is for tanks that have preferred MM.  All other T8 tanks get the same MM.  You knew that when you bought it.  You know the S1 gets exactly the same MM also.  We get it, you don't like being bottom tier.  Sorry WG singled you out for the bad MM.

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View PostDa_Craw, on May 17 2018 - 13:04, said:

The only different MM is for tanks that have preferred MM.  All other T8 tanks get the same MM.  You knew that when you bought it.  You know the S1 gets exactly the same MM also.  We get it, you don't like being bottom tier.  Sorry WG singled you out for the bad MM.

 

i am sorry but what you just said is complete [edited].. because the AMX M4 49 and STRV S1 are NOT the only tier VIII premium tanks i got..

i also got a S. Pershing and a M41 90mm GF which are getting much better matchmaking.. and as well i used to own for long time an STA 2 and a Type 59 Patton (which are sold long ago) and they been also getting decent matchmaking..

 

edit: and it has NOTHING to do with me being top or bottom tier.. has ONLY to do with how much damage i can cause during a battle against certain enemies.. i am almost ALWAYS in the end of the list when i play my STRV S1, and yet you will never hear me complaining about it.. simply because that thing can rip ANYONE apart with no to little trouble.. AMX cannot do the same..


Edited by Son__Of__Anarchy, May 17 2018 - 13:18.


Awestryker #8 Posted May 17 2018 - 13:16

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I know you make the bast credits in what you play well...but...you ever look at vbaddic website?

 

Here are the top tier 8 premium net income earners...

 

1.8_s22_strv_s1.png  tank_type_td.png   Strv S1 (small data set)4,53423,449.76 cr2.4_f19_lorraine40t.png  tank_type_medium.png   Lorraine 40 t (small data set)3,98523,084.38 cr3.2_a111_t25_pilot.png  tank_type_medium.png   T25 Pilot Number 1 (small data set)1,35321,703.45 cr4.2_a13_t34_hvy.png  tank_type_heavy.png   T34 (small data set)1,13521,691.69 cr5.4_f73_m4a1_revalorise.png  tank_type_medium.png   M4A1 Revalorise (small data set)1,76020,698.48 cr6.1_g51_lowe.png  tank_type_heavy.png   Lowe (small data set)2,34819,702.68 cr7.0_r122_t44_100.png  tank_type_medium.png   T-44-100 (small data set)1,13919,028.81 cr8.10_it13_progetto_m35_mod_46.png  tank_type_medium.png   Progetto M35 mod 4621,69918,386.61 cr9.2_a80_t26_e4_superpershing.png  tank_type_medium.png   T26E4 SuperPershing (small data set)1,10618,327.50 cr10.2_a117_t26e5_patriot.png  tank_type_heavy.png   T26E5 Patriot (small data set)1,14218,075.35 cr

 

I do not see the AMX M4 49 even on the list...perhaps not played enough in the last 30 days or something, not sure...

 

 


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View PostAwestryker, on May 17 2018 - 13:16, said:

I know you make the bast credits in what you play well...but...you ever look at vbaddic website?

 

Here are the top tier 8 premium net income earners...

 

1.8_s22_strv_s1.png  tank_type_td.png   Strv S1 (small data set)4,53423,449.76 cr2.4_f19_lorraine40t.png  tank_type_medium.png   Lorraine 40 t (small data set)3,98523,084.38 cr3.2_a111_t25_pilot.png  tank_type_medium.png   T25 Pilot Number 1 (small data set)1,35321,703.45 cr4.2_a13_t34_hvy.png  tank_type_heavy.png   T34 (small data set)1,13521,691.69 cr5.4_f73_m4a1_revalorise.png  tank_type_medium.png   M4A1 Revalorise (small data set)1,76020,698.48 cr6.1_g51_lowe.png  tank_type_heavy.png   Lowe (small data set)2,34819,702.68 cr7.0_r122_t44_100.png  tank_type_medium.png   T-44-100 (small data set)1,13919,028.81 cr8.10_it13_progetto_m35_mod_46.png  tank_type_medium.png   Progetto M35 mod 4621,69918,386.61 cr9.2_a80_t26_e4_superpershing.png  tank_type_medium.png   T26E4 SuperPershing (small data set)1,10618,327.50 cr10.2_a117_t26e5_patriot.png  tank_type_heavy.png   T26E5 Patriot (small data set)1,14218,075.35 cr

 

I do not see the AMX M4 49 even on the list...perhaps not played enough in the last 30 days or something, not sure...

 

 

 

yes mate, i visited this site a couple of times in the past.. but since i had already a few tier VIII medium prems, i decided to pick a heavy this time.. the options were limited to LOWE, T-34 , IS-6, 112 and AMX M4 49.. i picked the AMX due to its shorter reload time and higher penetration.. i would have bought a lorraine or a progetto but they were not for sale.. as well i had to consider that the tank wouldnt be included in any kind of offer or discount so i could use my -30% coupon..

Edited by Son__Of__Anarchy, May 17 2018 - 13:31.


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View PostSon__Of__Anarchy, on May 17 2018 - 06:11, said:

 

i am sorry but what you just said is complete [edited].. because the AMX M4 49 and STRV S1 are NOT the only tier VIII premium tanks i got..

i also got a S. Pershing and a M41 90mm GF which are getting much better matchmaking.. and as well i used to own for long time an STA 2 and a Type 59 Patton (which are sold long ago) and they been also getting decent matchmaking..

 

edit: and it has NOTHING to do with me being top or bottom tier.. has ONLY to do with how much damage i can cause during a battle against certain enemies.. i am almost ALWAYS in the end of the list when i play my STRV S1, and yet you will never hear me complaining about it.. simply because that thing can rip ANYONE apart with no to little trouble.. AMX cannot do the same..

 

OK, I take it back.  You don't know how MM works.  Your S. Pershing gets better MM.  Gotcha.  Has nothing to do with the fact that it has preferred MM and CANNOT SEE TIER 10.  And the tanks you sold long ago got great MM because they were special, not because it was before 3-5-7.

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View PostDa_Craw, on May 17 2018 - 13:34, said:

 

OK, I take it back.  You don't know how MM works.  Your S. Pershing gets better MM.  Gotcha.  Has nothing to do with the fact that it has preferred MM and CANNOT SEE TIER 10.  And the tanks you sold long ago got great MM because they were special, not because it was before 3-5-7.

 

my STA 2 and 59 Patton would see tier VIII battles as much as they would see tier X.. my M41 90 the same.. the S.pershing does not see tier X cause of preffered MM as you said.. what i asked, is for someone who DOES play the AMX M4 49 longer than me, to tell me if that tank sees anything else but tier X.. that answer i need.. if you have it good, if not, the extra info you give me is just useless at this current point.. thanks anyway..


Edited by Son__Of__Anarchy, May 17 2018 - 13:56.


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Yes, I have the M4 49.  It gets exactly the same MM as the Lowe, the Mutz, the Progetto, the AMX 65t, the 110, Walker Bulldog, Patton KR, Pershing, T-44, T-44-100, TVP VTU, Emil, O-Ho, T32, T26E5, KV-4, Ferdinand, Tiger II, VK45.02A, VK100.01(P), Panther II, Indienpanzer, IS(M), IS-3,  AT-15, AMX 50-100, Lorraine 155 mle. 51, and the STA-1.

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View PostDa_Craw, on May 17 2018 - 14:03, said:

Yes, I have the M4 49.  It gets exactly the same MM as the Lowe, the Mutz, the Progetto, the AMX 65t, the 110, Walker Bulldog, Patton KR, Pershing, T-44, T-44-100, TVP VTU, Emil, O-Ho, T32, T26E5, KV-4, Ferdinand, Tiger II, VK45.02A, VK100.01(P), Panther II, Indienpanzer, IS(M), IS-3,  AT-15, AMX 50-100, Lorraine 155 mle. 51, and the STA-1.

 

so it doesnt just play in tier X battle.. you may sometime see it as top tier even..

because as i said, in my 11 battles so far with it, i only played tier X games..



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ANSWER IS:

 

Yes... the AMX gets regular tier 8 MM.



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and if i dont know very well how MM works, is simply because i dont really care.. i play nothing but tiers IX and X.. some tier VIII in premium tanks for credits, and thats it..

for anything lower than that, its just not my bussiness.. the battles i give in low and mid tiers are just a passing through till i get my target..



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View PostGeorgePreddy, on May 17 2018 - 14:10, said:

ANSWER IS:

 

Yes... the AMX gets regular tier 8 MM.

 

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You could play it in strongholds, it’s a pretty good IS-3 killer because the only way they can pen you frontally is if they hit your cupola, which is tricky for IS-3s, and your 232 pen can go right through an IS-3 hull. Plus you can often trade 2 for 1 with a shorter reload. I honestly think it’s a pretty underrated tank and I’d buy it except I already have more t8 prems than I can play.

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View Postdominator_98, on May 17 2018 - 14:42, said:

You could play it in strongholds, it’s a pretty good IS-3 killer because the only way they can pen you frontally is if they hit your cupola, which is tricky for IS-3s, and your 232 pen can go right through an IS-3 hull. Plus you can often trade 2 for 1 with a shorter reload. I honestly think it’s a pretty underrated tank and I’d buy it except I already have more t8 prems than I can play.

 

that could be a good idea but saddly that requires that i belong to a clan.. clan requires that i am TS connected EVEN while i dont play with the clan and just doing my own thing..

i dont like TS so i stay out of clans.. i mean i dont have problem to use it in a stronghold or even when i platoon with clan members in random battles.. but being connected with NO reason, just because i am online in the game? i dont get it nor i like it..



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View PostMojo_Riesing, on May 17 2018 - 14:20, said:

Prior to Frontline my M4 49 would see a few Tier VIII only and some with Tier IX as top.  Since FL not so sure.  I've had some good (for me) battles with it in Front Line, but i don't think all heavies are as suited to FL in general (it's a medium game IMHO) but it's not my go-to Heavy for the mode.  I use mostly theT32, T26E5 and the Defender.  I'm unsure how well the Somua SM or the AMX 50/100 work  out but sometimes i like to respawn with an autoloader.

 

last night i had a really good battle with it.. where we been defending and i spawned 3 times.. first using the M4 49, then the STRV S1 and last till the end the S. Pershing..

in that battle i had 205.000cr netto income.. 122.000 of it was cause of the M4 49.. the rest 80.000 was the other 2 spawns together.. now when it comes to random battles, where i use to spend my time, i wait and see how it goes.. so far i see only tier X with it..






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