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4TankersAndDog #1 Posted May 18 2018 - 06:02

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...but not in ways that I expected either:

 

ps, skin camo is being fixed: https://ritastatusre...erver-downtime/

 

 


Edited by 4TankersAndDog, May 18 2018 - 22:06.


JakeTheMystic #2 Posted May 18 2018 - 06:20

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-5 Meters less view range isn't anything significant

-The 0.1 sec turret traverse difference is due to connection variation and frame-rate, not really a reliable statistic.

-The hull traverse is the only noticeable difference and it is fairly significant; although this is due to the ground resistance differences.  

-Basically, only buy the tank if you want it for a collection. 

 

It would be an more accurate test if you had the two tanks side by side in team training, give an overhead view of both tanks turning in place using a free-cam mod to show the differences. Going through a video editor can leave you with unreliable and fluctuating statistics. 

 

tl:dr - The premium version is worse than the non-premium version, what a surprise. 



JLdragon #3 Posted May 18 2018 - 06:57

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and they both still die just as easily..

I just shoot it in the rear Side of the turret when they not expecting or see me.. Total Ammo Rack go BOOM!..

I even find myself now hunting these on any of my T6-8 tanks, even on my 59-16 WZ 131 and 132 LOL..

So keep using them, I enjoy the easy go boom kills :) Loving the Trend of dead Heavies on the field.



Reiko_Nagase #4 Posted May 18 2018 - 07:03

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View PostJLdragon, on May 18 2018 - 00:57, said:

and they both still die just as easily..

I just shoot it in the rear Side of the turret when they not expecting or see me.. Total Ammo Rack go BOOM!..

I even find myself now hunting these on any of my T6-8 tanks, even on my 59-16 WZ 131 and 132 LOL..

So keep using them, I enjoy the easy go boom kills :) Loving the Trend of dead Heavies on the field.

 

You best hope you don't run into my KV-2... :D

Unlike these scrub wallet warriors I can actually play mine.



BLACKVENOMSTRIKER #5 Posted May 18 2018 - 07:04

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he switch's over too his crew with decent camo skills and well only 1 loader had camo while the other 5 crew members had yet to gain the skill. How is 1 crew member decent? to me that's just meh camo.

Ded_man #6 Posted May 18 2018 - 07:23

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Question, have you tried the hull traverse test on hard terrain by chance and got the same difference of results? Seems rather peculiar that, with all things considered your comparisons were practically the same everywhere except traverse. I'd be interested to know what results you'd get on hard terrain.

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Avalon304 #7 Posted May 18 2018 - 07:56

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View PostDed_man, on May 17 2018 - 23:23, said:

Question, have you tried the hull traverse test on hard terrain by chance and got the same difference of results? Seems rather peculiar that, with all things considered your comparisons were practically the same everywhere except traverse. I'd be interested to know what results you'd get on hard terrain.

 

The hull traverse rates wont ever be the same because of how hull traverse rates are calculated. One of the many calculations in the effective hull traverse equation is (elite engine HP/stock engine HP). For premium tanks this is 1. For tech tree tanks this often ends up more than 1. (In the case of the KV-2 its actually 1.2).

 

Id like to see the hull traverse tests tested again on all the terrain types with a completely fresh 100% crew (no skills) to see if the KV-2 ® really is faster, because that flies in the face of everything we know about how effective traverse is calculated.



Anlushac11 #8 Posted May 18 2018 - 08:05

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My apologies to wargaming but I have no interest in buying a KV-2 premium, just not my kind of tank.

 

 



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View PostJLdragon, on May 18 2018 - 06:57, said:

and they both still die just as easily..

I just shoot it in the rear Side of the turret when they not expecting or see me.. Total Ammo Rack go BOOM!..

I even find myself now hunting these on any of my T6-8 tanks, even on my 59-16 WZ 131 and 132 LOL..

So keep using them, I enjoy the easy go boom kills :) Loving the Trend of dead Heavies on the field.

 

Now imagine doing the same thing in an Alecto while hiding in some tall grass .....

Knagar #10 Posted May 18 2018 - 12:02

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Well they are the same aside from a skin job, but sure....

leadtag101 #11 Posted May 18 2018 - 12:45

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I have my Kv2 fully upgraded in All areas and had a Kv2 R go past me while climbing a slight hill.

Critical_Hit_chat_banned #12 Posted May 18 2018 - 13:18

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View Postleadtag101, on May 18 2018 - 06:45, said:

I have my Kv2 fully upgraded in All areas and had a Kv2 R go past me while climbing a slight hill.

 

​That could be a better crew or running food. There are ways to make your tank slightly better.

Kerosedge #13 Posted May 18 2018 - 14:07

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Only bought it to throw 4+ perk crews in it and broad side those pesky players that think the T6 is not scary. Like JLdragon up there.
Last dude that laughed at my R, did 924 to him and set him on fire. One shot Hellcats that sort of fun stuff.

JLdragon #14 Posted May 18 2018 - 15:15

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View PostReiko_Nagase, on May 17 2018 - 22:03, said:

 

You best hope you don't run into my KV-2... :D

Unlike these scrub wallet warriors I can actually play mine.

 

View PostKerosedge, on May 18 2018 - 05:07, said:

Only bought it to throw 4+ perk crews in it and broad side those pesky players that think the T6 is not scary. Like JLdragon up there.
Last dude that laughed at my R, did 924 to him and set him on fire. One shot Hellcats that sort of fun stuff.

LOL. I'll make sure to check the load screen then


Kliphie #15 Posted May 18 2018 - 15:24

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I'm nothing special in the Derp King, but gotta love all these people praising it who don't even average its own HP in damage.  

Guderian_PzIV #16 Posted May 18 2018 - 17:41

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yep, one is free and the other cost 30$

 



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View Postleadtag101, on May 18 2018 - 08:45, said:

I have my Kv2 fully upgraded in All areas and had a Kv2 R go past me while climbing a slight hill.

 

Lend-Lease Oil:

Increases engine power (and therefore, vehicle acceleration) by 5% for a single match.

Lend-Lease Oil is available only for Soviet vehicles regardless of engine type.

 

Removed Speed Governor:

While activated, it adds 10% to engine power.

Effect stacks with Lend-Lease Oil/Quality Oil via multiplication (15.5% combined bonus).

 

Extra Combat Rations:

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4TankersAndDog #18 Posted May 18 2018 - 22:09

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View Postleadtag101, on May 18 2018 - 03:45, said:

I have my Kv2 fully upgraded in All areas and had a Kv2 R go past me while climbing a slight hill.

 

Further testing shows there must have been something else different as other's have pointed out, the tanks are all but identical in a straight line up hill or down:



Ded_man #19 Posted May 18 2018 - 22:47

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Guess the concealment bonus or lack thereof for the Ragnarok skin has been fixed.

SwedishBob_ #20 Posted May 18 2018 - 23:17

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You posted on Asia .... so all I'll say "It's the Headlights "    :great:




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