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teamSG1 #1 Posted Sep 08 2011 - 00:35

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So i got the T29 about two weeks ago, but havent had much time to play Wot in that time. But when i do i usually play as the T29 or KV-1S and in that time period i have come to question the T29. I have heard so many people praise the T29 saying its virtually a god compared to the M6. Well up to this point i have not faired very well in it, excluding the Top Gun i got earlier. Out of nearly 50 battles in it i have lost 36 and won 11. That is horrible. Its not cause i suck, its cause i get put on teams that are uncoordinated. Not to mention how terrible the T29 is 90% stock. It took me forever to get the upgraded tracks, but once i did i noticed a major mobility increase in traverse speed and ability to turn while driving without slowing down too much.

I would be very grateful if anyone who has used the T29 would give me some advice on how to properly use this tanks abilities to its fullest. Currently i only have the upgraded tracks and 90mm on it. Im going for the engines before the 105.

The T29 isnt always bad, ive bounced shots i would never have dreamed of bouncing and i got a top gun award earlier in a tier 7 match. So please don't take this as a hate thread, because it most certainly is not.

Thanks for reading!
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ForcestormX #2 Posted Sep 08 2011 - 00:37

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I started out with tracks, radio, and turret from free xp, it made life a lot easier.

Idk whether to engine or gun first.

mechsftw #3 Posted Sep 08 2011 - 00:46

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gun first if you have the cash :unsure:

GRB_Duck #4 Posted Sep 08 2011 - 00:47

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SG1 the 105 is where its at - with the 90 its nothing more than an M6 - the WOW moment is when you mount the 105 - report back when you get it.

LeechMaster #5 Posted Sep 08 2011 - 00:49

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always angle your hull it is your weak spot, try and play anywhere your turret is the main target and you will find yourself coming out ahead 9 times out of 10. once you got the 105  you can deal as much pain as anyone in or around your tier can. its a great tank once ya figure out the quirks

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View PostGRB_Duck, on Sep 08 2011 - 00:47, said:

SG1 the 105 is where its at - with the 90 its nothing more than an M6 - the WOW moment is when you mount the 105 - report back when you get it.

Lolz, i like the way your replied to that. I dont want to grind 40K exp on a good gun and not be able to get anywhere or escape if needed.

Sickocrow #7 Posted Sep 08 2011 - 00:55

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Get the 105mm as a priority.  It's expensive to shoot but you need it's superior penetration power to fully compete.

The 29 is not invincible. Any body with a 120mm penning gun will easily penetrate your hull. The machine gun ball is a primary target as it is dead flat, but the rest of the front has a half decent slope. So it's important to minimize you hull exposure as much as possible.  Your hull is also long so your a huge target side on.  So be aware of where your arse is, and square up to any tank in front of you.

JDCollie #8 Posted Sep 08 2011 - 00:59

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Research wise I would recommend going immediately for the 105mm T5E1. The 90mm is competent; the 105 is divine.  


As for how to use this tank: stay hull down.  
Your hull is made of an expensive sharp cheddar cheese. Unfortunately the delicious aroma attracts all sorts of unwanted high-velocity pests, commonly known as tank shells.  In order to prevent these irritating insects from turning your fine cheddar into odius swiss, you need to hide your cheese-wheel of a hull behind rocks, hills, or even team-mates. Do this, and those little bugs will find that what is left (your turret) is excessively unappetizing. Feel free to send them back the way they came.

Veneroso #9 Posted Sep 08 2011 - 01:01

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The turret can be saved till last.  I know it adds some rate of fire, but I barely noticed a difference. It also adds those "ears" or range finders that are a horrible disadvantage while face-hugging (Which is a valid play style since your turret is virtually indestructible).

The 90mm has phenomenal performance for its tier.  Wether you get the 105 before you get the engines is up to you.  Personally, since the T29 is so heavy, those engines do almost nothing for it.  They do however make a huge difference on the T32 since it is considerably lighter.  (Get the turret asap on the T32 since its lower armor than the stock T29 turret btw).

You can also mount the 105mm on the stock turret and since the front armor is the same and the HP difference is negligible this isn't that bad of a choice either.  The upgrade turret has a better view range so if you prefer sniping then go ahead.  If you play like a brawler, don't use the upgraded turret due to the "ears" I mentioned before.

As far as play style, for its tier the 100mm of armor on the hull isn't as big of a disadvantage.  People still know to shoot it first so its important to protect it.  You can survive many battles using a "hull down" tactic where you either creep over a hill and use the enhanced gun-depression of the T29 to shoot over a hill or hide your hull behind cover and shoot over obstructions.  The turret is your armor, you need to use it.

My final stats on the T29 before moving to the T32 (which is even better in terms of speed and armor) was 130 wins out of 282 battles or a 46% win rate.  I wouldn't look at the win rate for any indication of tank performance however as you are not your team, you are one tank.  I say this because the T29 was one of my best tanks.  I am by no means "Good" at this game.  I have 6944 battles played and "only" 4,968 kills.  I also have a 48% win rate overall.  The T29 however, out of 282 battles, brought me 311 kills, an 83% hit ratio, and a maximum of 7 killed in one battle.  The thing also turns the tide of battles.  On multiple games I had someone say "This is a loss! YOU GUYS SUCK! I NEVER ACCEPT BLAME BECAUSE I AM BETTER THAN YOU DESPITE ME BEING DEAD!" Only for me to turn my tank around and defend our base, and we won.

Sickocrow #10 Posted Sep 08 2011 - 01:06

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View PostVeneroso, on Sep 08 2011 - 01:01, said:

The turret can be saved till last.  I know it adds some rate of fire, but I barely noticed a difference. It also adds those "ears" or range finders that are a horrible disadvantage while face-hugging (Which is a valid play style since your turret is virtually indestructible).

RoF increase has been well proven. It is literally 2 secs faster reload with 105.  Your gimping yourself if you don't use the upgraded turret.  I still face hug with it. I just head shake if the ears are getting looked at.  Choose for yourself OFC, but I feel the trade off is worth it given the much improved view range and extra Health.

Veneroso #11 Posted Sep 08 2011 - 01:09

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I had a gun rammer, spall liner, and a gun laying drive on it.  I didn't notice a difference, to be honest.  But if others do then so much the better.  All I know is that if I was face-hugging another T29, I'd win because I didn't have the ears for him to shoot and I wouldn't bounce!

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Mount the 105
See a king tiger advancing towards you
hull down
flawlessly pen his lower glaicis with each shot
???
profit

The engines make a very, very small difference.  The second engine is only slightly noticeable over the stock engine.  Get the tracks, then immediately grind for the gun.  Followed by turret and radio.  Save the engines for last.  The ears on the turret are annoying, but the lower rate of fire on the stock, and lower view range are worse than having to wiggle your turret between shots.

As for modules.  Binocs to boost your view range to 500m when sitting hull down are very useful.  Vertical stabilizer and rammer are mandatory.

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View PostShivus, on Sep 08 2011 - 01:10, said:

Mount the 105See a king tiger advancing towards youhull downflawlessly pen his lower glaicis with each shot???profitThe engines make a very, very small difference.  The second engine is only slightly noticeable over the stock engine.  Get the tracks, then immediately grind for the gun.  Followed by turret and radio.  Save the engines for last.


Pretty much this.

I would elite the T29 though since having a nearly-elite T32 from the start is a really nice starting point for the T32.  You may even have enough Free xp to get the tracks on it right away then its just a simple issue of getting rid of the T32's weak turret.  After that you can get your heart crushed into dust by the T34!

Mowie #14 Posted Sep 08 2011 - 01:18

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I sold my T29 and I only did that to help fund my grind to the T34.

Once the T34 becomes a premium tank the T29 will be the first tank I will be buying back.

The T29 is the best tier 7 heavy and I found it to be a very easy tank to use.

Oh and teamSG1, you have played 2,192 battles so you should know that most tanks suck until they are fully upgraded.

Stick with it and you should see the fruits of your labour blossom.

Hihibob #15 Posted Sep 08 2011 - 01:21

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I always get the tracks, turret, and then gun.

Mowie #16 Posted Sep 08 2011 - 01:26

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View PostHihibob, on Sep 08 2011 - 01:21, said:

I always get the tracks, turret, and then gun.

Usually that is the best way but, with the T29 it is tracks then gun as you don't need the next turret to mount the big gun.

teamSG1 #17 Posted Sep 08 2011 - 11:47

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View PostMowie, on Sep 08 2011 - 01:18, said:

I sold my T29 and I only did that to help fund my grind to the T34.

Once the T34 becomes a premium tank the T29 will be the first tank I will be buying back.

The T29 is the best tier 7 heavy and I found it to be a very easy tank to use.

Oh and teamSG1, you have played 2,192 battles so you should know that most tanks suck until they are fully upgraded.

Stick with it and you should see the fruits of your labour blossom.

I realize i have over 2000 battles, but this tank stock has been harder for me to get used to than others.

Bunpunter #18 Posted Sep 08 2011 - 13:22

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As been said before - use hull down tactics often. While 90mm is a decent gun, you don't want to peekaboo with it - too much exposure. Be mindful of arty - the top side of the back of your hull has next to no armor (think full HE damage of an arty shell).

In a nutshell, you want to sit on a gentle incline with a decent battlefield view, relatively easy reached by enemy tanks but protected by an indestructible cover from the arty.

TheDuke13 #19 Posted Sep 08 2011 - 15:35

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In all honesty I got the turret and tracks and I think I'm just going to use free xp from here on out to limit my record in that beast.  I love it to death but without the 105mm, the 90mm isn't enough of a game changer for the majority games with bad teams I'm put on.

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View PostteamSG1, on Sep 08 2011 - 11:47, said:

I realize i have over 2000 battles, but this tank stock has been harder for me to get used to than others.
Driving a completely stock T29 is almost like driving a battleship, but when its been elited its still like a battleship..... USS.IOWA.