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Spammy #21 Posted Jun 24 2018 - 19:30

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I admit sometimes it seems my rng is so bad that the game is refusing to allow me to help my team.

_Tsavo_ #22 Posted Jun 24 2018 - 19:36

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View PostKeepYourselfSafe_xD, on Jun 24 2018 - 06:35, said:

Oh, I remember you
Some copy pasta about looking at the map, I bet you have a lot of time to do that considering your only T10 is the CGC at 57k matches.
Considering this, teach me so I can win more games, friend? 

 

just spam gold at OP and watch the rage.

AcadiansRule #23 Posted Jun 24 2018 - 19:50

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View PostSpammy, on Jun 24 2018 - 19:30, said:

I admit sometimes it seems my rng is so bad that the game is refusing to allow me to help my team.

 

I don't even mind when 50% of my perfect shots bounce... but when I hit 85%-90% bounce or miss... that's when you start to wonder "what am I doing on this stupid site?"

 

Again... any tank in any war that only penetrates 10--15% of the time... is TAKEN OUT OF ACTION... it never happened.. never.. ever... impossible.. and yet.. WOT that fights for realizm .. .creates a scenario that never existed every hour of every day... pissing off customers in the process.

 

Yesterday in back-to-back games... I went 24 shots... 3 pens.   It ain't me... That's by WOT design.


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GeorgePreddy #24 Posted Jun 24 2018 - 20:16

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View PostWhisky_A_Go_Go, on Jun 24 2018 - 13:54, said:

It doesn't matter if the game is rigged or not.  Yes, it does matter, almost every player would prefer that it not be rigged and it isn't rigged in the sense that it is designed to favor or disfavor any individual, team or group.

 

 the PERCEPTION is that it is rigged.  The perception of the game being rigged is far from ubiquitous, most of the players who believe the game is rigged feel that way because they are worse than average and use rigging as the easiest and convenient excuse for that. Most better than average players do not ascribe to the rigged conspiracy theory.

 

And that is a developer problem   No... it isn't... there is literally nothing practical that can be done by developers to make worse than average players feel good about their play without punishing better players or ruining the game in  other ways.

 



Rides_with_Death #25 Posted Jun 24 2018 - 20:22

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View PostProfessionalFinn, on Jun 24 2018 - 10:45, said:

There are but only a few nuttier than "the game is rigged" conspiracy theories.  

 

The following is one that is crazier.

 

Finland doesn't exist.
This theory evolved on Reddit in 2015, when a user called "Raregans" suggested that Finland was a fabricated landmass, dreamed up by the Japanese and Soviet Union during the Cold War in an effort to secure fishing rights in the Baltic Sea.

Raregans suggested the people who populate the country known as Finland actually belong to the nations of Sweden, Estonia, and Russia.

 

http://www.businessi...-exist-either-3

 

that's awesome...now to make the middle east disappear & Quebec

Edited by Rides_with_Death, Jun 24 2018 - 20:24.


Shammalammadingdong #26 Posted Jun 24 2018 - 20:27

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View PostWhistling_Death_, on Jun 24 2018 - 03:51, said:

 

"The game is rigged!" Ohh? Then why is it all your tanks have different winning percentages?! Duhhh! Don't let the paranoid conspiro-whacko's infect you with their affliction! Stop the paranoia! Seek medical help!  Get inoculated!  Use your brain!  

Please upvote my post.

 

ftfy

 



I_QQ_4_U #27 Posted Jun 24 2018 - 20:28

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But I missed a shot so it must be rigged!

Joe150 #28 Posted Jun 24 2018 - 22:16

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Most of my tanks are 55 56 % with a couple at 50%. A few are 60%  low tier tanks that don't count.Pretty consistent to me.

VooDooKobra #29 Posted Jun 24 2018 - 22:26

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View Postda_Rock002, on Jun 24 2018 - 06:03, said:

 

 

Nowadays both the 15-3 and 3-15 games are usually a product team makeups.    Those really awful blowouts usually show terrible matchups from MM.   Then they add to the few naturally occurring rolfstomps that are going to happen with even fair matchups.   Researching the teams after battles to see what a newbie has to face (over the last year+) has shown however that around 60% of the battles did have decently fair MM.    So it would be possible for WG to fix that one aspect of their MM as it already produces "skill filtered" matchups.     It would make sense for them to fix the 40% if they'd care to keep the newbies whose presence as a majority of the players in those 40% is one reason those battles are blowouts.


 

It appears that newbies see many, many more of those 3-15 than 15-3.    It appears that WoT fills each of those screwed battles with twice as many newbs as 50+WR players, and that means the newbs get lots more of those blowouts and they're mostly on the newb team. 


 

WG has said they're looking into the problem, of course. 


 


 

 

you still need to take into account the fact that single death games have on average more blowouts than ones with respawns or similar mechanics.  even the most balances MM will still have that as an obstacle 

AcadiansRule #30 Posted Jun 25 2018 - 01:32

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Just finished a game on Tundra... shot the enemy Hellcat going up the hill from my Hellcat.. someone else shot him for another 100.. so he had 200hp left.. I was full health.

 

He kept peeking around the top rock.. shot me once.. I shot him 3 times.. all 3 bounced.. no damage... he eventually killed me.. game over.

 

How does a hellcat full aim bounce off a hellcat THREE SHOTS IN A ROW?  Not possible.. no matter what calculations they USE on WOT.. that is an impossible result.

 

THAT IS WHY PEOPLE STOP PLAYING WOT... just ridiculous game results so far out of the realm of possibility.. you just throw up your hands and put your wallet away.. because you know they will never fix it.


Edited by AcadiansRule, Jun 25 2018 - 01:35.


da_Rock002 #31 Posted Jun 25 2018 - 01:46

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View PostVooDooKobra, on Jun 24 2018 - 16:26, said:

 

you still need to take into account the fact that single death games have on average more blowouts than ones with respawns or similar mechanics.  even the most balances MM will still have that as an obstacle 

 

 

And everyone needs to take into account that 60% of WoT matchups would be more apt to spotlight the rate single death games would give.   Those 60% are the middle of the bell curve in respect to skill balanced teams.   They naturally happen as the "most balances MM" you refer to.   They come about naturally just as the two sides of the bell curve come about from the skill skewing.  



o7o7o7o7o7o7o7o7o7o7o7o7 #32 Posted Jun 25 2018 - 05:11

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View PostWhistling_Death_, on Jun 24 2018 - 11:51, said:

 

"The game is rigged!" Ohh? Then why is it all your tanks have different winning percentages?! Duhhh! Don't let the paranoid conspiro-whacko's infect you with their affliction! Stop the paranoia! Seek medical help!  Get inoculated!  Use your brain!

 

all my tanks have the same winning percentage. 

 

44-45%

 

thats very consistent and proves the game is rigged since no tank of mine can get above that! 

 

CHECK MATE. 



scHnuuudle_bop #33 Posted Jun 25 2018 - 07:03

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If the game is rigged, 

why is it almost every time some negative Nellie  announces "tomatoes, game is over", we seem to win. Is it just stubborn determination from us oranges  and tomatoes, or perhaps, just random happenings.

 

THe only rigged games I see are the platoons of yellow/green seal clubbing tier 2.



philb990 #34 Posted Jun 25 2018 - 15:05

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For once the rigging was with me. Had the best winning streak ever.

last week 162 games 62% wr

 



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Didn't you promise to quit when arty was changed?

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View PostAcadiansRule, on Jun 25 2018 - 01:32, said:

Just finished a game on Tundra... shot the enemy Hellcat going up the hill from my Hellcat.. someone else shot him for another 100.. so he had 200hp left.. I was full health.

 

He kept peeking around the top rock.. shot me once.. I shot him 3 times.. all 3 bounced.. no damage... he eventually killed me.. game over.

 

How does a hellcat full aim bounce off a hellcat THREE SHOTS IN A ROW?  Not possible.. no matter what calculations they USE on WOT.. that is an impossible result.

 

THAT IS WHY PEOPLE STOP PLAYING WOT... just ridiculous game results so far out of the realm of possibility.. you just throw up your hands and put your wallet away.. because you know they will never fix it.

 

Replay or [edited]. And of course, you would bounce off his mantlet...

(does not expect replay to be posted)



Whistling_Death_ #37 Posted Jun 26 2018 - 12:59

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Paranoia is treatable.

 

Stupidity is forever.



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View Postphilb990, on Jun 25 2018 - 09:05, said:

For once the rigging was with me. Had the best winning streak ever.

last week 162 games 62% wr

 

 

There is no rigging and doesn't have to be.

 

Good grief!



AcadiansRule #39 Posted Jun 27 2018 - 00:35

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Yet another fckn game decided by RNG... 5-6 full aim gold kill shots... 3-5' over my targets.. no damage.. no hit... cost us the game.

 

If I stop playing.. .it will be because of WOT's decision to change the outcome of games for stupid RNG.  Completely senseless..  I can understand one missed shot... maybe two.. these are close range... but 6?  GO TO HELL WOT.

 

I'll just cut back then fade out completely... I'll return when they stop using RNG as a weapon against customers.


Edited by AcadiansRule, Jun 27 2018 - 00:36.


Whistling_Death_ #40 Posted Jun 27 2018 - 17:38

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RNG is completely random, which makes it the same for all players, which means it's fair and balanced.

 

Whining about RNG is like a football player whining about the rain.

 

Whining about RNG is just an excuse some use to explain their poor results.






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