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terminator2114 #21 Posted Jul 09 2018 - 16:25

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that old kv1s was op as hell

Tanya_von_Degurechaf #22 Posted Jul 09 2018 - 16:27

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View Postterminator2114, on Jul 10 2018 - 00:25, said:

that old kv1s was op as hell

 

Not anymore..you can judge by the new tier 6s and 7s...WG took the long barrel with the excuse that was (too overpowered for low tiers) now think about this (they introduced the japanese heavy line)  funny right?

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Thinking now, I can't believe no one has said the Tiger I. That thing is absolute trash. Can't even sidescrape in it, and almost never blocks shots because of how thin and pathetic the armor is. Could use +50 armor imo, and then give the Tiger II +25 or +50 as well to help balance some things out better.

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Jap heavies are a joke, a super armored kv2s basically

Tanya_von_Degurechaf #25 Posted Jul 09 2018 - 16:33

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View PostxXTheGameAceXx, on Jul 10 2018 - 00:30, said:

Thinking now, I can't believe no one has said the Tiger I. That thing is absolute trash. Can't even sidescrape in it, and almost never blocks shots because of how thin and pathetic the armor is. Could use +50 armor imo, and then give the Tiger II +25 or +50 as well to help balance some things out better.

 

I know, but honestly tiger 1 fit in "low tiers" in imo, things get more interesting in 8/9/10 dont you think? i mean...a good part of players in the game atm, prefer to spend time on their E75s than on a Tiger 1, maybe thats why WG never really took serious in buffing that cute tank.

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View PostxXTheGameAceXx, on Jul 09 2018 - 11:30, said:

Thinking now, I can't believe no one has said the Tiger I. That thing is absolute trash. Can't even sidescrape in it, and almost never blocks shots because of how thin and pathetic the armor is. Could use +50 armor imo, and then give the Tiger II +25 or +50 as well to help balance some things out better.

 

Because it has no armor, you mostly need to play it as a sniper, or 2nd/3rd line of support, but most people don't get that, so then you get yelled at for not being up front in a Heavy :)

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View PostTanya_von_Degurechaf, on Jul 09 2018 - 07:24, said:

Bring back this glorious machine! (only the strong ppl know)

 

 

Since we are bringing up old tanks, Ill take my T-50-2 back please.

Tanya_von_Degurechaf #28 Posted Jul 09 2018 - 16:41

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View Postel_mucho_dingdong, on Jul 10 2018 - 00:34, said:

 

Since we are bringing up old tanks, Ill take my T-50-2 back please.

 

Good times. Gold times.

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I'd like to think that the Maus needs a little buff.

 

490 alpha on the 128 is a bit mediocre, given the same gun on the Jg.Pz. E100 does over twice as much...

 

Buff it by say...+20%? (~700 alpha)

 

HP and armor are alright, it's the damage output I have an issue with.



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Anything that's not Russian.

HENRYOFORANGE #31 Posted Jul 09 2018 - 16:52

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would be nice if they buff the 8,9,10 American heavy's, I don't really see any point for them.



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View Postthe_dude_76, on Jul 09 2018 - 09:02, said:

None, if you find one tank underwhelming pick one of the hundreds of others to play. 

 

Seriously, the arms race needs to stop eventually. There will ALWAYS be tanks that are underwhelming because every time you buff the tanks that are, a new set becomes the bottom of the barrel and people start calling for them to be buffed. It's a never ending, and completely unnecessary, cycle.

Several tanks underperform significantly, others overperform significantly.  Knocking these outliers back into line is usually considered healthy for a game.  For instance, all T10 mediums are seeing slight decreases in their ability to win thanks to the 430U, more and more people playing it, and the 3/5/7 + class matching MM.

 

Further, once you've tamed the outliers, slight nerfs and buffs to tanks only slightly OP or UP are arguably good for the game, as they help keep the game fresh and encourage breadth of tank stable as well as depth.



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View PostTanya_von_Degurechaf, on Jul 09 2018 - 07:20, said:

 

Why buff a low tier? in other words buffing low tiers will only call "stats padders" to the game.

Have you played the M5 Stuart?  It's so painfully bad. It took me 70 battles to grind. It's that bad. No person grinding the American light tanks should have to suffer with a gun with 47 alpha and 56 mm of pen at tier 4.



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View PostJEDIDIEUGH, on Jul 10 2018 - 00:55, said:

Have you played the M5 Stuart?  It's so painfully bad. It took me 70 battles to grind. It's that bad. No person grinding the American light tanks should have to suffer with a gun with 47 alpha and 56 mm of pen at tier 4.

 

I do understand your point but still, buffing low tiers is not very that important. i cant imagine what can happen if WG decide to buff low tiers. ( a few months ago i saw a guy with 7k battles on a Pz 1C...can you imagine this?)...

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View PostHENRYOFORANGE, on Jul 09 2018 - 11:52, said:

would be nice if they buff the 8,9,10 American heavy's, I don't really see any point for them.

 

Not really sure I agree with that.  Are there better Heavies at each tier?  Sure, but not every tank in the game can be best in class/tier.

 

T32 - hull down is a beast and still used for Tier 8 clan activities

M103 - only average, but wouldn't say average means it needs a buff.

T110E5 - haven't played it.  Got some nerfs last year, but it's still good (not great) as far as I know.

T57 Heavy - Is incredibly powerful in the right hands thanks to it's autoloader, which also makes it unique and balanced (reload time). 

 

 



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Tiger II.  



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AMX ELC, TVP VTU, P44 Pantera armor.

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View PostxXTheGameAceXx, on Jul 09 2018 - 09:30, said:

Thinking now, I can't believe no one has said the Tiger I. That thing is absolute trash. Can't even sidescrape in it, and almost never blocks shots because of how thin and pathetic the armor is. Could use +50 armor imo, and then give the Tiger II +25 or +50 as well to help balance some things out better.

It and the amx 45 complete for worst T7 heavy.  Pretty much all the rest of them are ok to very good, with of course the resident broken jpn superheavy being OP.



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View Postspud_tuber, on Jul 09 2018 - 10:59, said:

It and the amx 45 complete for worst T7 heavy.  Pretty much all the rest of them are ok to very good, with of course the resident broken jpn superheavy being OP.

 

The amx 65t is the exact same way except t8.

Tanya_von_Degurechaf #40 Posted Jul 09 2018 - 17:07

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With all these overpowered tanks that WG is adding recently, i woudnt be surprised if the "WT ausf E100" back to our arms. i really miss that tank, hate the grille.




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