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WeatherbyMkV #1 Posted Jul 09 2018 - 21:42

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I just completed a random battle (Fjords) in a Tier VIII T26E5.  An enemy Tier IX T95 decided to let me fire at him at will.  He was about 100 meters away, at most.  I fired 3 standard rounds at him to no effect, then I switched to APCR Rigid, and fired three rounds to no effect, and finally I switched to 3 HE rounds, all fired to no effect other than de-tracking. 

 

I had plenty of time to move my reticle around, but no matter where I placed it, it remained red.

 

DO I need to memorize which tanks are impenetrable, or better yet just buy them and not worry about enemy fire?

 

 



AndrewSledge #2 Posted Jul 09 2018 - 21:50

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The T95 isn't inpenetrable to all tanks, but it might be to the T26E5. It is a good idea to learn the armor layouts of the tanks in the game, because careful aiming is required at times.

 

The common weakpoints from the front are: lower plate, commander's cupola, and driver's hatch. In this case, you would probably need to flank around the T95 in order to be able to penetrate it's armor.

Armor layouts can be found on websites like Tanks.gg.



GenErwinRommel #3 Posted Jul 09 2018 - 21:59

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or use an OP Russian Tank,they have amazing pen

WeatherbyMkV #4 Posted Jul 09 2018 - 22:09

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Thanks.

KannonFE #5 Posted Jul 09 2018 - 22:40

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https://tanks.gg/tank/t95/model

 

Track and flank. The back of the T95 is pretty thin.



moogleslam #6 Posted Jul 09 2018 - 22:50

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Besides the obvious sides and back, cupola's and lower front plate are the weak spots.

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View PostWeatherbyMkV, on Jul 09 2018 - 21:42, said:

I just completed a random battle (Fjords) in a Tier VIII T26E5.  An enemy Tier IX T95 decided to let me fire at him at will.  He was about 100 meters away, at most.  I fired 3 standard rounds at him to no effect, then I switched to APCR Rigid, and fired three rounds to no effect, and finally I switched to 3 HE rounds, all fired to no effect other than de-tracking. 

 

I had plenty of time to move my reticle around, but no matter where I placed it, it remained red.

 

DO I need to memorize which tanks are impenetrable, or better yet just buy them and not worry about enemy fire?

 

 

 

What is this about a reticle that remained red, is this some kind of cheating mod?

Slatherer #8 Posted Jul 10 2018 - 01:33

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As the occasional T95 driver, I have repair on my crew and a tool kit.  It's VERY hard to keep me tracked.  Plus, a lot of side to side sweeps keeps the average opponent from hitting my copulas or lower plate.  

Absolute best way to take out a T95 is don't take on one alone, or have a fast, accurate, high pen medium to track and flank.

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View PostIBEACAMPER, on Jul 09 2018 - 18:33, said:

 

What is this about a reticle that remained red, is this some kind of cheating mod?

 

It's a setting for the reticle to show penetration.

Settings -> Reticle ->  under the Gun Marker list, choose one that has the 'with armor penetration indicator' mention.



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View PostIBEACAMPER, on Jul 09 2018 - 15:33, said:

 

What is this about a reticle that remained red, is this some kind of cheating mod?

 

Its a cheating mod included in the game, same with the minimap.

 

T26E5 can pen the t95 in the hatches on top and very lower lower plate, with gold. But not with a very high chance so unless you want to spam credits at it shoot something else, leave, or flank it. 



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View PostIBEACAMPER, on Jul 09 2018 - 20:33, said:

 

What is this about a reticle that remained red, is this some kind of cheating mod?

 

It's not a mod, it's available in the game under "Settings".

 

Be aware that it is only a "suggestion", essentially green means "a good CHANCE to pen", amber means "a decent CHANCE to pen" and red means "little CHANCE to pen".

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



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I must say I am amazed how often upper Tier American Heavy tanks cannot penetrate armor.  I finally get in a position to make a shot, and "we barely scratched them" is the result.  This happened on five occasions yesterday with my Tier 10 T110E5.

 

I know I am a stupid noob, but I find it difficult to flank enemy tanks in a heavy.  And when I ride along with other heavies during a battle, they may luck into a flank shot, but rarely maneuver into one.

 

Discouraging.



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I pretty much suck in tiers VIII-X primarily because I can't figure out how to pen upper tier tanks (particularly Heavies) since I no longer have the mental bandwidth to remember all the individual weak spots and armor configurations of 50+ tanks => I bounce a lot of shots.  :confused:

WangOnTheLoose #14 Posted Jul 12 2018 - 14:39

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View PostSlatherer, on Jul 09 2018 - 19:33, said:

As the occasional T95 driver, I have repair on my crew and a tool kit. It's VERY hard to keep me tracked. Plus, a lot of side to side sweeps keeps the average opponent from hitting my copulas or lower plate.

Absolute best way to take out a T95 is don't take on one alone, or have a fast, accurate, high pen medium to track and flank.

 

This, I use a full repair crew, large repair kit, small repair kit, and a toolbox.  Pretty much nothing is keeping me tracked at that point.  Tier for tier this is one of the best front armored vehicles in the game.  Your best bet is to just find a flank or go somewhere else.

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View PostWeatherbyMkV, on Jul 11 2018 - 07:15, said:

I must say I am amazed how often upper Tier American Heavy tanks cannot penetrate armor.  I finally get in a position to make a shot, and "we barely scratched them" is the result.  This happened on five occasions yesterday with my Tier 10 T110E5.

 

I know I am a stupid noob, but I find it difficult to flank enemy tanks in a heavy.  And when I ride along with other heavies during a battle, they may luck into a flank shot, but rarely maneuver into one.

 

Discouraging.

 

Unfortunately you are way out of your league at that level.  You will face a lot less frustration if you go back to tier V and VI and work on developing your crews as well as getting comfortable with the game.  I already know you aren't going to listen but it is pretty obvious from your posts that you are not only having a hard time learning the game but you are not having much fun either.

 

You don't need to memorize individual tank weak spots unless you are having a specific problem.  All you need to know is that frontal weak spots tend to be lower front plates, cupolas (those are the commanders and gunners hatches on top of the tank if you don't know), and sometimes machine gun ports.  Other than that sides and rears of tanks are usually good to shoot at also with some exceptions.

 

Lastly the T110E5 isn't really a heavy and you will probably have better games if you work with the mediums and try your hardest to find hull down spots to work.  Go with the heavies and you will invariably find the real heavies in this game.


Edited by WangOnTheLoose, Jul 12 2018 - 14:47.


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Lol, I knew this was going to be about the t95.

WeatherbyMkV #17 Posted Jul 13 2018 - 00:48

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View PostWangOnTheLoose, on Jul 12 2018 - 14:42, said:

 

Unfortunately you are way out of your league at that level.  You will face a lot less frustration if you go back to tier V and VI and work on developing your crews as well as getting comfortable with the game.  I already know you aren't going to listen but it is pretty obvious from your posts that you are not only having a hard time learning the game but you are not having much fun either.

 

You don't need to memorize individual tank weak spots unless you are having a specific problem.  All you need to know is that frontal weak spots tend to be lower front plates, cupolas (those are the commanders and gunners hatches on top of the tank if you don't know), and sometimes machine gun ports.  Other than that sides and rears of tanks are usually good to shoot at also with some exceptions.

 

Lastly the T110E5 isn't really a heavy and you will probably have better games if you work with the mediums and try your hardest to find hull down spots to work.  Go with the heavies and you will invariably find the real heavies in this game.

 

I actually do enjoy the game, or I wouldn't play it.  But yes, it does frustrate me.

 

I need to get over the ignorance my teammates have regarding the T110E5 (and some other American Heavies).  They expect me to run with them, which usually results in them taking a few hits and making kills.  For me, it's a quick death, and they use my tank corpse for cover.  So my limited experience confirms what you say about the T110E5, and I need to ignore the ignorant game chat (which I will once again turn off).



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View PostKannonFE, on Jul 09 2018 - 11:40, said:

https://tanks.gg/tank/t95/model

 

Track and flank. The back of the T95 is pretty thin.

 

This ... and in general, the rule would apply to virtually all 'mobile pillboxes' ... So if you 'had' to shoot it from the front, the likeliest spot would be LFP ... but the better option would be to attempt tracking to immobilize and reduce the TD's fire to a small ineffectual arc ... and leave it vulnerabe to arty and or other team mates better placed for rear/engine deck shots.  This basic strategy applies to the likes of the Badger, '04, E3 etc ... thing is, every tank in the game has tracks and drive sprockets ... shoot those and the vehicles sans turret become particularly handicapped in terms of return fire.  

Edited by Kenshin2kx, Jul 13 2018 - 01:27.


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Yes the Doom Turtle is a hard nut to crack from the front and if you take a shot and sit there long enough a bunch of hp will vanish.  Best bet is to flank and if you can't then run away.

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View PostWeatherbyMkV, on Jul 12 2018 - 18:48, said:

 

I actually do enjoy the game, or I wouldn't play it.  But yes, it does frustrate me.

 

I need to get over the ignorance my teammates have regarding the T110E5 (and some other American Heavies).  They expect me to run with them, which usually results in them taking a few hits and making kills.  For me, it's a quick death, and they use my tank corpse for cover.  So my limited experience confirms what you say about the T110E5, and I need to ignore the ignorant game chat (which I will once again turn off).

 

If you are top tier you might want to run with the heavies but I think with tanks like the T110E5 and T-10, Russian Tier IX heavy, you really want to run with the mediums.  For instance if there is a super heavy on the team taking that tank on in a T110E5, unless you can flank or go super hull down, probably wont end well for you.




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