NeatoMan, on Jul 10 2018 - 23:02, said:
EmperorJuliusCaesar, on Jul 10 2018 - 10:56, said:
"In the current MM they get the same mix of team mates as everyone else."
Demonstrably and impossibly mathematically IMPOSSIBLE. The current "random" MM creates a LARGE amount of imbalanced battles. You yourself have admitted it's 15-30% of all battles. Others, playing at different times and different tiers have tracked it to be closer to 40%.
That means that there's a LOT of battles that are over before they even start. When there are 10 slots of skilled players that land on one side and only 5 slots on the other teams in these battles, the skilled players are MUCH more likely to land on the skilled side than not.
I've been tracking the ONLY stat that matters......the stacked battles, and it shows EXACTLY what one would expect an average player to suffer.......TWICE as many auto-losses as auto-wins.
" What complete bull [edited]. I played against the exact same mix of teams that you and everyone else on the forums did."
Wrong, read above, it's mathematically IMPOSSIBLE if you are green or above given the number of slots on the different teams in these stacked battles. It's literally FREE wins for those green and above and that's why nothing is done about it.....for now.
WG feels currently that skilled players should win more, regardless of the fact that MM stacks the game in their favor more often than not. HOWEVER, as more and more players leave the game because of this very reason.....hopefully they will wake up.
You're basically saying that a player's own skill isn't allowed to let him win more games.
Nobody gets better team mates or opponents than anybody else from the current MM. You are complaining because good players make their teams better. You think that is a bad thing.
A bad player is more likely to end up on a bad team because he is bad. That badness follows him everywhere he goes, like soiled underpants. That's not the MM's fault. He can either man up and change his pants, and learn to use the toilet, or not, and continue stinking up everywhere he goes. Again, that's not the MM's fault that he soils his own pants. If he didn't soil his pants so much then he wouldn't get more bad teams than everyone else.
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When there are 10 slots of skilled players that land on one side and only 5 slots on the other teams in these battles, the skilled players are MUCH more likely to land on the skilled side than not.
You make it seem as if those slots are preassigned and the MM simply fills them with good players when they find them. That's not how it works. If you are not a good player then there is one less good "slot" on your team. Being good only guarantees 1 less average or bad "slot" on your team. That's it. Every other "slot" averages out the same for everyone over the long run. You get them filled with the same kinds of players that I do.
"You're basically saying that a player's own skill isn't allowed to let him win more games."
Nope, never said anything close to that. Skilled players will win more games. That's NOT the matter of contention. The problem is......the LARGE amount of VERY UNBALANCED matches we currently have that is running players away from the game.
"Nobody gets better team mates or opponents than anybody else from the current MM."
Again, WRONG, given the number of VERY IMBALANCED battles we currently get, where 2/3rds of one team is very good vs one team of 2/3rds average or worse......the skilled players are TWICE as likely to land on the skilled side. This results in MANY free wins for them. Very clear to see given the number of slots on either team.
I never said it was predetermined......it's simple mathematics that anyone can see.
" Every other "slot" averages out the same for everyone over the long run."
NOT true, in fact, mathematically IMPOSSIBLE as in these stacked matches there are TWICE as many slots on the stacked side(auto-win) than on the auto-loss side.