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_Kradok_ #101 Posted Jul 12 2018 - 22:28

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View PostWaylandie, on Jul 12 2018 - 16:08, said:

 

Point of order, the average age of enlisted men during WW2 was 26.

Apples to oranges

 

 

Nobody said anything about 'average age'.... Relevance?

 

TRUE FACT - Those UNDER 18 also served.  (That there were people who were older wasn't even part of that equation.)  

MY OPINION - Today, our youth are mostly uninformed snowflakes.

 

Carry on.



DrWho_ #102 Posted Jul 12 2018 - 22:29

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View PostNunya_000, on Jul 12 2018 - 20:32, said:

 

From my observation, a majority are not in favor of SBMM and it is the obnoxious few that want it....and 90% of them are players with low Win Rates.

 

Your WR isn't that much higher than mine mate and I've never been obnoxious about this topic



Mfezi #103 Posted Jul 12 2018 - 22:34

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View Post_Kradok_, on Jul 12 2018 - 23:28, said:

Apples to oranges

 

 

Nobody said anything about 'average age'.... Relevance?

 

TRUE FACT - Those UNDER 18 also served.  (That there were people who were older wasn't even part of that equation.)  

MY OPINION - Today, our youth are mostly uninformed snowflakes.

 

Carry on.

 

In that case, what was the relevance of your post in the first place?....

 



24cups #104 Posted Jul 12 2018 - 22:40

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View Postleeuniverse, on Jul 12 2018 - 13:33, said:

 

1. Yes, but depending on the tank there can be some variation in the amount.  Higher HP eliminates the "wham" and you're dead, allows for retreating, saves, regrouping, flanking, etc., all of which makes a more dynamic and fun game instead of a Frack U game which is how almost everyone currently feels playing the game if they are honest and not trying to be a fan boy.

 

2. No they aren't, if they were people wouldn't hate on the game so much related to the SYMPTOMS, i.e. MM, Arty, full HP Derping, etc.  The real causes of their frustration is crap performing tanks.

 

3. It failed by firing Obsidian when Obsidian didn't want to make crap, they didn't implement many of my suggestions that were still needed such as HP levels, which is further why it failed, it also started trying to be like WOT in making tanks crap, the further reason why it failed.

But if you triple HP you'll have to make battles longer to allow for more damage. 

I'm not sure how many players would want that.



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View Post24cups, on Jul 12 2018 - 14:40, said:

But if you triple HP you'll have to make battles longer to allow for more damage. 

I'm not sure how many players would want that.

 

Really?  What do you think Frontline was?  It was a much longer game mode.

 

Frontline and AW's GLOP's essentially was my idea of more HP, just with Respawning instead.

And from all accounts, both modes were loved by the vast majority of the communities.

 

Those modes 100% PROVE my more HP idea would be liked, and not be some sort of problem as "some" believe.



Kliphie #106 Posted Jul 12 2018 - 23:08

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View PostWaylandie, on Jul 12 2018 - 16:08, said:

 

Point of order, the average age of enlisted men during WW2 was 26.

 

View Post_Kradok_, on Jul 12 2018 - 16:28, said:

Apples to oranges

 

 

Nobody said anything about 'average age'.... Relevance?

 

TRUE FACT - Those UNDER 18 also served.  (That there were people who were older wasn't even part of that equation.)  

MY OPINION - Today, our youth are mostly uninformed snowflakes.

 

Carry on.

 

Or they're fans of mid-eighties electronic music.  

 



Nunya_000 #107 Posted Jul 12 2018 - 23:10

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View PostDrWho_, on Jul 12 2018 - 13:29, said:

 

Your WR isn't that much higher than mine mate and I've never been obnoxious about this topic

 

no dr.....i have never seen you as being obnoxious. There are some that are obnoxious  on both sides, but i don't remember you being one of them 



DrWho_ #108 Posted Jul 12 2018 - 23:44

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View PostNunya_000, on Jul 12 2018 - 23:10, said:

 

no dr.....i have never seen you as being obnoxious. There are some that are obnoxious  on both sides, but i don't remember you being one of them 

 

Fair enough :)

 

And for the record I'm mostly done debating this particular topic. So far nobody has been able to convince me that some sort of "skill wieghting" to the current MM can't be made to work and I'm obviously not able to convince others that it would so why waste more time eh


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24cups #109 Posted Jul 12 2018 - 23:48

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View Postleeuniverse, on Jul 12 2018 - 16:45, said:

 

Really?  What do you think Frontline was?  It was a much longer game mode.

 

Frontline and AW's GLOP's essentially was my idea of more HP, just with Respawning instead.

And from all accounts, both modes were loved by the vast majority of the communities.

 

Those modes 100% PROVE my more HP idea would be liked, and not be some sort of problem as "some" believe.

Yes FL was much loved, myself included.  I'm saying that if 30+ minute battles were the norm it wouldn't be as popular.  Even with FL, after a few battles I'd go back to randoms for a break. 

Also, taking their popularity as proof of your idea is a bit presumptuous don't you think  ?



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View Post24cups, on Jul 12 2018 - 17:48, said:

Yes FL was much loved, myself included.  I'm saying that if 30+ minute battles were the norm it wouldn't be as popular.  Even with FL, after a few battles I'd go back to randoms for a break. 

Also, taking their popularity as proof of your idea is a bit presumptuous don't you think  ?

 

I'm guessing you haven't seen his previous ideas over the years?  Presumptuous with a heavy side of pompous.  He's kind of okay-ish at wn8 farming, though.

Hurk #111 Posted Jul 13 2018 - 05:24

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View PostWaylandie, on Jul 12 2018 - 14:08, said:

Point of order, the average age of enlisted men during WW2 was 26.

 

nothing in that meme says they were all 18. just that there were 18 year old men there getting shot at. while modern 18 year old men whine about what you say to them.

_Kradok_ #112 Posted Jul 13 2018 - 13:37

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View PostMfezi, on Jul 12 2018 - 16:34, said:

 

In that case, what was the relevance of your post in the first place?....

 

 

Um... I laughed at a funny meme that was uploaded... so my relevance was spot-on. What's your point? :sceptic:

Mfezi #113 Posted Jul 13 2018 - 18:23

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View Post_Kradok_, on Jul 13 2018 - 14:37, said:

 

Um... I laughed at a funny meme that was uploaded... so my relevance was spot-on. What's your point? :sceptic:

 

I'm sorry, my post was directed towards hurk who posted the meme orininally. I am a little puzzled as to it's relevance under the current topic?...

WangOnTheLoose #114 Posted Jul 13 2018 - 18:32

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View PostTAR_b, on Jul 12 2018 - 15:53, said:

 

Facts have been presented in the 100s of other threads on this.  SBMM is socialism because it eventually over time would bring everyone's winrate (or other metric that is used) to be the same 50% --- and then how would it know how to sort players anyway?  Bad players get helped more over many games, while good players get hindered more over many games.  It is totally rigged. 

 

I find it humorous that the same players tend to believe in SBMM are also those who complain about WG rigging games --- when SBMM is totally rigging games!  I guess you baddies are all for rigging as long as it helps you...


Same folks who don't grasp the mathematical fail of SBMM are the same ones who cannot fathom how over many games your winrate is affected by your own play and not the other 29 players ---

 

So you have no knowledge of another game that uses SBMM?

TAR_b #115 Posted Jul 13 2018 - 20:58

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View PostWangOnTheLoose, on Jul 13 2018 - 12:32, said:

 

So you have no knowledge of another game that uses SBMM?

 

Can you name a team game that uses SBMM that is successful?  

 

(btw, even WoT uses forms of SBMM, as in the Ranked Battles that is set to begin soon.... why don't y'all play some of that?



diego999 #116 Posted Jul 13 2018 - 21:54

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View PostWangOnTheLoose, on Jul 13 2018 - 14:32, said:

 

So you have no knowledge of another game that uses SBMM?

 

Armored Warfare did, for a time.

 

Then they ran the numbers, discovered it didn't work, and removed it.






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