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Will the Polish 60TP become a meta tank?


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Poll: Will the 60TP become a new meta tank (64 members have cast votes)

Do you think it will become the new go to tank or will it be situational?

  1. Yes I think it will become a meta tank (20 votes [31.25%])

    Percentage of vote: 31.25%

  2. No I don't think it will become a meta tank (14 votes [21.88%])

    Percentage of vote: 21.88%

  3. Its possible though I think it would be a situational tank (28 votes [43.75%])

    Percentage of vote: 43.75%

  4. Unsure or prefer not to answer. (2 votes [3.12%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.12%

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_Gungrave_ #1 Posted Aug 11 2018 - 06:44

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What do you guys think of the tier 10 60TP and do you think it will become a meta tank? To me its like the E100 and the IS4 had a child because its got some decent armor and a really punchy gun with 750 alpha. It also has slightly less gun depression than the Sconq at 8 degrees but thats more than the 5A and the 277. Lastly its mobility is roughly on par with the Sconq but since its practically 15 to 20 tons ligher it will probably have better acceleration.

 

Only time will tell once its released but I'm just curious what you guys think ahead of its release either from your early opinion or from playing it on the test server.

Stats = https://tanks.gg/v10030ct/tank/60tp
Collision model using 5a as the opponent = https://tanks.gg/v10...tank/60tp/model

 

As for a nickname I think calling it the Lewd tank is fitting given its full name of "60TP Lewandowskiego" when viewed on tanks.gg.

 

 

EDIT: Here is my experience from playing it on the test server after 20 battles and close to a 60% winrate despite all the idiots running a crap ton of FV45s and type 5s.

View Post_Gungrave_, on Aug 11 2018 - 08:27, said:

Played a few matches with it on the test server and while the pen is slightly lacking it more than makes up for it with HEAT and HE. If you shoot HEAT(dont bother with AP) you're gonna roll between 560 and 930. If you load HE well you're very likely to see type 4/5 standard HE like damage on weaker points of armor because you're using a 152mm gun. Just don't rely on using HE for actually dealing damage to armored targets. You should only use HE on hull down low HP tanks because you generally will have a decent chance at hitting them for 300  to 450 if you splash over the roof of the hull or turret.

 

This tank is just beyond stupid because its designed for poking and really delivering the pain. Downside to this tank is that its going to be one of the more expensive tanks to play since its standard 250 AP pen isn't going to be doing you any favors so you'll probably shoot a fair amount of HEAT

 


Edited by _Gungrave_, Aug 11 2018 - 13:20.


Augustus_Sohn #2 Posted Aug 11 2018 - 06:46

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It appears to be a good all-rounder, for sure. 

dominator_98 #3 Posted Aug 11 2018 - 06:49

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I second the nickname Lewd. Pity it's not a Japanese tank.

CynicalDutchie #4 Posted Aug 11 2018 - 07:00

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We really didn't need more high alpha tanks, that's what I think.

holdmecloserTonyDanza #5 Posted Aug 11 2018 - 07:03

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til they nerf bat it after everyone free xp's to it...this is like 7 years of predictability

_Gungrave_ #6 Posted Aug 11 2018 - 07:09

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View PostholdmecloserTonyDanza, on Aug 11 2018 - 07:03, said:

til they nerf bat it after everyone free xp's to it...this is like 7 years of predictability

 

Well thats kind of expected but then again the tanks that make them a ton of money well they wait a long time before nerfing them like the Sconq which still remains as OP as ever.

 

View PostCynicalDutchie, on Aug 11 2018 - 07:00, said:

We really didn't need more high alpha tanks, that's what I think.

 

Well stupid tanks like this are what helps pay the bills

stalkervision #7 Posted Aug 11 2018 - 08:24

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Killed one with my firefly at pretty close range and wasn't pitching heat so I doubt it a bit.So far I'm three out of four against them using my Firefly. Proably making more then a few wallet warriors crazy I bet.:-) 

_Gungrave_ #8 Posted Aug 11 2018 - 08:27

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Played a few matches with it on the test server and while the pen is slightly lacking it more than makes up for it with HEAT and HE. If you shoot HEAT you're gonna roll between 560 and 930 but if you load HE well you're very likely to see type 4/5 standard HE like damage.

 

This tank is just beyond stupid because its designed for poking and really delivering the pain.

 

View Poststalkervision, on Aug 11 2018 - 08:24, said:

Killed one with my firefly at pretty close range and wasn't pitching heat.O:-) 

 

I don't even think you bothered to read the thread fully...:facepalm:



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View Post_Gungrave_, on Aug 11 2018 - 02:27, said:

Played a few matches with it on the test server and while the pen is slightly lacking the gold pen more than makes up for it and when you shoot HE well you'll be pleasantly surprised.

 

 

I don't even think you bothered to read the thread fully...:facepalm:

 

I find that remark quite appropo of you as it doesn't deal with what I just told you whatsoever. I haven't had much trouble with these (meta tanks) as you call them. This surprised me. It must be that they have as many [edited]in their armor as your posts.

_Gungrave_ #10 Posted Aug 11 2018 - 08:50

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View Poststalkervision, on Aug 11 2018 - 08:46, said:

 

I find that remark quite appropo of you as it doesn't deal with what I just told you whatsoever. I haven't had much trouble with these (meta tanks) as you call them. This surprised me. It must be that they have as many [edited]in their armor as your posts.

 

You were talking about the tier 6 Firefly against the tier 8 prem 50TP, this thread is about the tier 10 60TP polish tank.

 

Its literally that simple.



stalkervision #11 Posted Aug 11 2018 - 08:56

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View Post_Gungrave_, on Aug 11 2018 - 02:50, said:

 

You were talking about the tier 6 Firefly against the tier 8 prem 50TP, this thread is about the tier 10 60TP polish tank.

 

Its literally that simple.

 

Yes its the premium of course.I find playing the t\s a waste of time. You do realize of course since the model you played isn't a premium if it's that Op it won't be for long. It's literally that simple. The premium is another story.



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View Poststalkervision, on Aug 11 2018 - 00:56, said:

 

Yes its the premium of course.I find playing the t\s a waste of time. You do realize of course since the model you played isn't a premium if it's that Op it won't be for long. It's that simple. The premium is another story.

 

What thread are you replying to? This thread was created with the explicit question of asking the people who know about the tier X polish, if they thought it would become meta, I.E used for cw, advancements, etc.

 

The 50TP was never brought up except by you. When confronted that you're talking about the wrong tank you get insulted. That's just sad

 

 

 


stalkervision #13 Posted Aug 11 2018 - 09:03

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I always find t/s prononcements pretty amusing.

 



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View PostGravtech, on Aug 11 2018 - 03:01, said:

 

What thread are you replying to? This thread was created with the explicit question of asking the people who know about the tier X polish, if they thought it would become meta, I.E used for cw, advancements, etc.

 

The 50TP was never brought up except by you. When confronted that you're talking about the wrong tank you get insulted. That's just sad

 

 

 

It was a simple mistake but I just gave you a amended answer. You may want to read it. The sad thing is actually that you think your pronouncements about a t/s  tank that is so op as you claim mean much of anything.

stalkervision #15 Posted Aug 11 2018 - 09:15

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It's a lot like a reviewer making excited supertest tank announcements.

stalkervision #16 Posted Aug 11 2018 - 09:28

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Now if you want to discuss the premium that I doubt will be changed whatsoever that another story. In real game play it hasn't been much of a problem.:-) 

 



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View Poststalkervision, on Aug 11 2018 - 01:03, said:

I always find t/s prononcements pretty amusing.

 

View Poststalkervision, on Aug 11 2018 - 01:11, said:

 

It was a simple mistake but I just gave you a amended answer. You may want to read it. The sad thing is actually that you think your pronouncements about a t/s  tank that is so op as you claim mean much of anything.

 

Never claimed the 60TP was "so op", nor did anyone else. Tanks in the common test rarely get major alterations that change them, it will be the same with this tank. So discussing it's current stats and possible viability in competitive is relevant and a good thing to do. If this concept goes over your head then that's your problem, not mine.

 

View Poststalkervision, on Aug 11 2018 - 01:15, said:

It's a lot like a reviewer making excited supertest tank announcements.

 

It's in the common test, not the super test. And asking questions regarding the current stats of a tank that is soon to be released is not something special or unexpected.

 

View Poststalkervision, on Aug 11 2018 - 01:28, said:

Now if you want to discuss the premium that I doubt will be changed whatsoever that another story. In real game play it hasn't been much of a problem.:-) 

 

 

Don't care about the 50TP, never did I say that I cared, nor did anyone else. If you want to chat about that thing then make your own thread about it

stalkervision #18 Posted Aug 11 2018 - 10:16

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Look let's start this again. Your varbose over the top pronunciation of the new(meta tank) say your minimizing what your first said. Two,test server tanks as opposed as you hint to actually are often nurfed where premiums are not. Three, I find the premium much more relevant for these reasons and have seen a lot of them Irgp but if you want to make personal opinions on t\s tanks that you admit to believing are the (new meta) then go ahead. I wait for more (new metas) to appear on the actual game myself before such beliefs.Btw I shot up a Defender in my Firefly also at very close range. Wasn't that suppose to be the premium(new meta)? :-) 



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View Post_Gungrave_, on Aug 11 2018 - 08:27, said:

Played a few matches with it on the test server and while the pen is slightly lacking it more than makes up for it with HEAT and HE. If you shoot HEAT you're gonna roll between 560 and 930 but if you load HE well you're very likely to see type 4/5 standard HE like damage.

 

This tank is just beyond stupid because its designed for poking and really delivering the pain.

 

 

I don't even think you bothered to read the thread fully...:facepalm:

You say 250 is lacking for a 750 alpha gun? I’m almost sure that the E5 is only 259 with way less alpha... 



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View PostFrostblitz20, on Aug 11 2018 - 11:04, said:

You say 250 is lacking for a 750 alpha gun? I’m almost sure that the E5 is only 259 with way less alpha... 

 

Well 250 is good in theory until you consider this is more of a peek a boom heavy with a 3 sec aim time before adding anything to reduce it. I tried it with a mix of AP and HEAT but that generally got me somewhat poor results from all the bounces with AP.




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