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GN_78 #1 Posted Sep 12 2018 - 16:12

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Hi guys so I have decided to try experimenting with running WoT on Wine or PlayonMac, to see if I can get better performance and also to see if I can install external apps such as Wot Tweaker on it. (The Macwrapper does not allow this.) May I check if anybody has tried running Wot on Wine or Playonmac? May I ask how did you set up Wot using Wine, and also, how was the game performance? Thanks for any help!

black_colt #2 Posted Sep 12 2018 - 16:43

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View PostGN_78, on Sep 12 2018 - 07:12, said:

Hi guys so I have decided to try experimenting with running WoT on Wine or PlayonMac, to see if I can get better performance and also to see if I can install external apps such as Wot Tweaker on it. (The Macwrapper does not allow this.) May I check if anybody has tried running Wot on Wine or Playonmac? May I ask how did you set up Wot using Wine, and also, how was the game performance? Thanks for any help!

 

Yes I have

 

If using Wine I recommend that you review the WineHQ webpage dedicated to World of Tanks - https://appdb.winehq...rsion&iId=36493

 

Getting World of Tanks running using Wine on macOS is not for the faint of heart.

 

As for PlayonMac - I tried - it did not work well - went back to the WoT Mac Wrapper.

 

If you are dead-set on running the WoT Tweaker then I recommend that you install Linux and then World of Tanks using Wine.

 

Why?

 

The number of individuals running Linux, Wine and World Of Tanks is significantly larger than the number running macOS, Wine and World of Tanks and you should get better support/guidance.

 

Performance-wise

 

The WoT Mac Wrapper runs at a higher FPS [5 to 10 percent better] than the native game in MS Windows [SD client, same graphics settings at 2560x1440] over my WiFi connection [250 Mbps down - dedicated 802.11ac].

 

Probably due to the wireless drivers.

 

Finally

 

If you dead-set on running the WoT Tweaker - why not just install MS Windows using Boot Camp and run natively? 

 

I do this so I can play on the Common Test Server on my MacBook Pro and iMac.  Only cost me about USD 40 to get an Activation Code. 

 

Also I am experiencing none of the issues that seem to plague the Forums - e.g. crashes to desktop, crappy graphics, etc. - with the Apple-branded hardware.

 

Running MS Windows IMHO is the quickest and easiest way to accomplish your goal of running WoT Tweaks.


Edited by black_colt, Sep 12 2018 - 17:20.


AndrewSledge #3 Posted Sep 12 2018 - 16:46

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I used PlayOnMac before the Mac wrapper came out. It worked fine, but I believe the official wrapper has better performance.

 

Also, you can run some Windows installers through the Mac wrapper. After starting the wrapper, click the File menu, and choose 'Run Command'. I can run modpack installers like Aslains through this.



black_colt #4 Posted Sep 12 2018 - 17:16

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View PostAndrewSledge, on Sep 12 2018 - 07:46, said:

I used PlayOnMac before the Mac wrapper came out. It worked fine, but I believe the official wrapper has better performance.

 

Also, you can run some Windows installers through the Mac wrapper. After starting the wrapper, click the File menu, and choose 'Run Command'. I can run modpack installers like Aslains through this..

 

You cannot install a stand-alone app into the WoT Mac Wrapper.

 

While Aslain's ModPack includes stand-alone apps they are not installed when you chose the [Run] command.


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dstud208 #5 Posted Sep 12 2018 - 20:47

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Both play on Mac and the official WoT ma wrapper are both variants of wine. I think wine stands for "Windows in Native Environment" or something like that. Anyways, it's highly customizable and play on Mac is a generic program that will create a wine wrapper for you that is tweaked to run whatever program your choosing better. If you choose "not on list" and create a generic wrapper it's really no different than just installing wine on your computer from wineHQ and installing WoT.

The official Mac wrapper from war gaming (and developed by codeweavers) is a highly polished wine wrapper that has had all the non essentials thrown away and is completely tweaked to be 100% geared towards WoT.

In my experience, if the WoT wrapper works, then wine will work worse, the only time wine and things like play on Mac will be better is if the Official Mac wrapper doesn't work at all. Because it's so stripped down and customized sometimes an update to the game will break something in it, and because wine isn't as stripped down it doesn't break for wine. But wine will always be slower and buggier than a working copy of the official wrapper. Because they are the same thing, just the official one is "optimized" for the game.

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View Postdstud208, on Sep 12 2018 - 11:47, said:

Both play on Mac and the official WoT ma wrapper are both variants of wine. I think wine stands for "Windows in Native Environment" or something like that. Anyways, it's highly customizable and play on Mac is a generic program that will create a wine wrapper for you that is tweaked to run whatever program your choosing better. If you choose "not on list" and create a generic wrapper it's really no different than just installing wine on your computer from wineHQ and installing WoT.

The official Mac wrapper from war gaming (and developed by codeweavers) is a highly polished wine wrapper that has had all the non essentials thrown away and is completely tweaked to be 100% geared towards WoT.

In my experience, if the WoT wrapper works, then wine will work worse, the only time wine and things like play on Mac will be better is if the Official Mac wrapper doesn't work at all. Because it's so stripped down and customized sometimes an update to the game will break something in it, and because wine isn't as stripped down it doesn't break for wine. But wine will always be slower and buggier than a working copy of the official wrapper. Because they are the same thing, just the official one is "optimized" for the game.

 

Much better said ...

 

Using Wine requires quite a bit of work - making sure you install all of the right implementations [vkd3d, etc] as well as possibly having to install 32-bit Wine and 64-bit Wine.  All of this just to run the HD client or install third-party apps is not worth my time and effort.

 

Running MS Windows on your Apple-branded hardware requires far less time and effort than building Wine [Wine Is Not an Emulator] just to get something that is not in/supported by the WoT Mac Wrapper..  Also since you are running MS Windows you can submit Support Tickets with both Wargaming and any Mod developer.

 

Hopefully Wargaming will approve the 64-bit version of the WoT Mac Wrapper.  I suspect that we will be finally able to run the HD client on macOS as well as get a more stable app.

 


Edited by black_colt, Sep 12 2018 - 23:05.


GN_78 #7 Posted Sep 12 2018 - 23:08

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Ok I’ll just try playonmac first and compare performance. However, it is likely that I will continue using the Mac wrapper though.




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