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YANKEE137 #1 Posted Oct 12 2018 - 21:42

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Another one in the pipeline. The Good old US Army tech tree version is totally left behind. Maybe they can down tier it to 6.



BillDing1 #2 Posted Oct 12 2018 - 23:07

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how is this tank better? It trades power/weight for top speed, a degree of gun dep for very minor gun handling improvements, some turret traverse for tank traverse, and has like 50 more hp for 30 less view range. even if it has super amazing terrain resits which lets face it it probably will, it still will just be trading mobility and some gun headlining for 30 view range not exactly the most power creep I've seen.



Everlasting_Chungus #3 Posted Oct 12 2018 - 23:11

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so it's basically a worse M41 90mm okeee. 

The_Ice_Cream_Man_ #4 Posted Oct 12 2018 - 23:43

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View PostYANKEE137, on Oct 12 2018 - 21:42, said:

Another one in the pipeline. The Good old US Army tech tree version is totally left behind. Maybe they can down tier it to 6.

 

for chinese fake tank its good.  normally chinese tanks get -5 degree gun depression.  chinese tanks not only russian knock offs now but american knock offs.

 

its not even a mainland china tank, its taiwanese

 

its not even a historically accurate timeline for the tank even its 1999.when taiwan got these tanks.

 

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Following extensive trials between M4l light tanks upgraded by Techmotiv of Canada (using a US Cummins VTA 903-TR diesel engine) and NAPCO International of the US (using a US Detroit Diesel 8V-71T engine) the latter was selected by the Taiwanese Army early in 1997.

Following contract negotiations, it is understood that an initial order was placed with NAPCO International for 50 M41D upgrade kits with the actual upgrade work to be carried out in Taiwan.

The replacement of the current petrol engine by the more fuel efficient Detroit Diesel 8V-71T V-8 diesel engine increases the operational range of the tank from 160 to 450 km, as well as reducing the risk of fire.

Target date for the first batch of 50 vehicles to be upgraded is late 1999 at a unit cost of NT$20 million. The upgrade will extend the life of the M41 light tank by at least 15 years.

 

only thing chinese or taiwanese about this tank is the communications equipment that they built.

 

yay for more fake chinese tanks.



ramp4ge #5 Posted Oct 12 2018 - 23:55

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I wish they'd stop with the premium tank spam and fix the tech tree vehicles they've powercreeped into near-uselessness. 


Howcome we still don't have the M47 or the M60A1?



Grampy #6 Posted Oct 13 2018 - 00:12

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Or how about the M42 Duster as a tier 5 scout?

https://en.wikipedia...wiki/M42_Duster

 



ramp4ge #7 Posted Oct 13 2018 - 00:21

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View PostGrampy, on Oct 12 2018 - 15:12, said:

Or how about the M42 Duster as a tier 5 scout?

https://en.wikipedia...wiki/M42_Duster

 

 

 

I'd rather see the T24E1. Basically a Chaffee with the M18's power pack. 

 

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It'd basically be a Chaffee with the stock turret, stock gun, upgraded engine and a revised model to have the deck hump on the back.

 

It looks cool as hell.

 



The_Ice_Cream_Man_ #8 Posted Oct 13 2018 - 00:36

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View Postramp4ge, on Oct 13 2018 - 00:21, said:

 

 

I'd rather see the T24E1. Basically a Chaffee with the M18's power pack. 

 

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It'd basically be a Chaffee with the stock turret, stock gun, upgraded engine and a revised model to have the deck hump on the back.

 

It looks cool as hell.

 

 

WG will turn this into a fake chinese light tank also.

tod914 #9 Posted Oct 13 2018 - 00:43

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View PostGrampy, on Oct 12 2018 - 18:12, said:

Or how about the M42 Duster as a tier 5 scout?

https://en.wikipedia...wiki/M42_Duster

 

 

That would rip the new wheeled vehicles a new one.

Grampy #10 Posted Oct 13 2018 - 01:08

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View Posttod914, on Oct 12 2018 - 18:43, said:

 

That would rip the new wheeled vehicles a new one.

 

That was my thought.

Blucraft #11 Posted Oct 13 2018 - 01:13

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It's kinda how they make $$...just saying.

 

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Nuclearwynter #12 Posted Oct 13 2018 - 11:54

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wait. you mean you guys want something other then an another Russian tank?  what? no that can't be right? something is all wrong here. you guys better stop before WG hears this nonsense. YOU WANT RUSSIAN TANKS ONLY. WG says so.

hazmatman #13 Posted Oct 13 2018 - 17:21

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View PostBlucraft, on Oct 13 2018 - 01:13, said:

It's kinda how they make $$...just saying.

 

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Yup. You have to entice paying players to pay, and on a steadily recurring basis, in order to support the free-to-play community. WG is not a charity. So as much as we all might like all new content to be either completely free (gift tanks or maps) or straight up grindable tech tree tanks, that would not keep the lights on and the servers humming.

Fractured_Raptor #14 Posted Oct 13 2018 - 17:35

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Honestly I wouldn't care if Premium tanks were on par with tech tree counterparts. It's how the non paying crowd is balanced out in terms of game development and costs, the people who are willing to pay fund salaries. What isn't okay is something like the Defender/252U. It makes every tech tree heavy more or less pointless. In its own tier I mean. If +1/-1 was a thing balance would be super easy for WarGaming. When you balance for a two tier spread you end up in a situation where tanks are too much when they're top dog. Balancing 8s against 10s is a [edited]idea and then some since 8s can see 7 or 6.

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View Posthazmatman, on Oct 13 2018 - 17:21, said:

 

Yup. You have to entice paying players to pay, and on a steadily recurring basis, in order to support the free-to-play community. WG is not a charity. So as much as we all might like all new content to be either completely free (gift tanks or maps) or straight up grindable tech tree tanks, that would not keep the lights on and the servers humming.

 

Fair enough but if they made more premiums for other nations than Russia and China they could get some more in. 

How about some decent premium TDs for UK or USA ?

 

I'd buy those



Fractured_Raptor #16 Posted Oct 13 2018 - 17:50

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View PostDrWho_, on Oct 13 2018 - 11:48, said:

 

Fair enough but if they made more premiums for other nations than Russia and China they could get some more in. 

How about some decent premium TDs for UK or USA ?

 

I'd buy those

 

Ever play the Tier 7 Scorpion? It's a fun little tank. Especially when you circle jerk someone who has a slow turret traverse speed. You're the mosquito that refuses to die!

madogthefirst #17 Posted Oct 13 2018 - 18:05

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View Postramp4ge, on Oct 12 2018 - 15:21, said:

 

 

I'd rather see the T24E1. Basically a Chaffee with the M18's power pack. 

 

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It'd basically be a Chaffee with the stock turret, stock gun, upgraded engine and a revised model to have the deck hump on the back.

 

It looks cool as hell.

 

Shut up and take my money!



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View PostFractured_Raptor, on Oct 13 2018 - 17:50, said:

 

Ever play the Tier 7 Scorpion? It's a fun little tank. Especially when you circle jerk someone who has a slow turret traverse speed. You're the mosquito that refuses to die!

 

I own that one as well as the AT-15A but they don't really fit into the regular tech tree as far as crew configuration goes so you can't use them as crew trainers. Well, the AT-15 does if you're grinding towards the Badger etc but grinding those assault TDs suck in the current MM because they're not very useful in that role when -2 which they are most of the time.

It's just that I'm a bit annoyed that for some nations there's all sort of choices but for an Anglophile like myself the premium choices are less than exciting to put it mildly and same goes for many of the US premiums, I have the T34B ..... 

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View PostDrWho_, on Oct 13 2018 - 11:21, said:

 

I own that one as well as the AT-15A but they don't really fit into the regular tech tree as far as crew configuration goes so you can't use them as crew trainers. Well, the AT-15 does if you're grinding towards the Badger etc but grinding those assault TDs suck in the current MM because they're not very useful in that role when -2 which they are most of the time.

It's just that I'm a bit annoyed that for some nations there's all sort of choices but for an Anglophile like myself the premium choices are less than exciting to put it mildly and same goes for many of the US premiums, I have the T34B ..... 

US and UK actually have some pretty good prem mediums and heavies.  Chrysler K, E5, M46KR, thunderbolt, ram, eagle 7(maybe), crom B, excelsior (maybe), cent 5/1, caern AX.  Of course,  not all are always available..*grmble*







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