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Everlasting_Chungus #21 Posted Oct 26 2018 - 21:28

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I guess the buffs to the 260 are ok? I agree with Marine on the gun depression. And as other people have mentioned, the 260 sucks.

Avalon304 #22 Posted Oct 26 2018 - 22:52

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I think... more than anything I'd like to have the extra degree of gun depression over the relatively meaningless aim time buff (seriously 0.1 sec quicker aimtime isnt much). I will gladly take the HP/ton and engine power buffs though. I cant say I really care about the armor buffs, since I dont rate armor highly for things Im looking for in a tank. Would much rather DPM parity with the T-54 (running the D-10T2S0 over armor parity.

 

Also... could we maybe, if WG is gonna keep the russian MoEs on this tank, have them positioned properly on the barrel (more near the base) rather than closer to the muzzle like German MoEs normally are? Also could we get inscription slots added as well?

 

The tank is already like 90% of a T-54...

 

https://tanks.gg/compare/t-55a?t=t-54

 

EDIT: Also I know this is a long shot but could we perhaps match the crew layout exactly to the Leopard 1? (Or better yet change the Leopard 1 and PTA crew layouts to match this tank exactly by making the Loader also the radio operator?)


Edited by Avalon304, Oct 26 2018 - 23:22.


ramp4ge #23 Posted Oct 26 2018 - 22:54

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Pershing and T32 are like "wtfm8"..

Beorn_of_the_NorthernSea #24 Posted Oct 26 2018 - 23:45

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View PostBigDollarBillz, on Oct 26 2018 - 05:48, said:

Heck I just want to be able to finish my 55A missions haha.

 

Same here.  I need a handful of TD missions and the final heavy tank mission and that sucker is mine!

 

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BabA_YA6A #25 Posted Oct 27 2018 - 02:54

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View PostGnomon, on Oct 26 2018 - 21:11, said:

Morning, everyone!

 

Hope that you're having a good Friday! Today, I wanted to let you know about a new Supertest. It is for the reward tanks of Season 1 of Personal Missions.

 

We intend to make these vehicles more competitive in the current game environment. Their status demands that they should play well as reward tanks earned by performing hard and complex tasks.
The T 55A will receive new turret armor, close to the one that the Soviet T-54 has after the HD upgrade. The gun will gain some firepower and also in the parameters responsible for enjoyable play. The tank’s mobility will increase, as well.

 

 


The Object 260 will become tougher and, well, meaner. The turret protection will be bolstered (first of all, in the gun mantlet). We’ll also increase the firepower; improved stabilization and rate of fire will make a nice bonus for those who managed to achieve the top reward of Season 1.

 


The stats are not final and may change depending on Supertest results and feedback. Please follow the news and best of luck in every battle!

 

As customary with every change it's gonna take another six month before we see any changes!!!

Gets old because that the 260's armor sucks is no new topic!



BabA_YA6A #26 Posted Oct 27 2018 - 02:55

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View PostGravtech, on Oct 27 2018 - 04:28, said:

I guess the buffs to the 260 are ok? I agree with Marine on the gun depression. And as other people have mentioned, the 260 sucks.

 

It does in the current state!

SpectreHD #27 Posted Oct 27 2018 - 04:49

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So when are we getting changes to premium ammo. I think it has been long enough. Instead of more overarmouring, how about doing something about the broken former pay to win mechanic that is actually making it so much easier to penetrate these and so many other tanks? :sceptic:

Edited by SpectreHD, Oct 27 2018 - 04:50.


ramp4ge #28 Posted Oct 27 2018 - 05:12

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View PostSpectreHD, on Oct 26 2018 - 19:49, said:

So when are we getting changes to premium ammo. I think it has been long enough. Instead of more overarmouring, how about doing something about the broken former pay to win mechanic that is actually making it so much easier to penetrate these and so many other tanks? :sceptic:

 

 

And start un-powercreeping tanks that have been powercreeped on for years now instead of buffing stuff that really doesn't need it.



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Please, please, please give the 260 some gun depression, ffs please. 7 degrees and minor amor buff would make this much more competitive. As it sits, I still play it but it can't compete against tier tens.

Edited by Vytone, Oct 27 2018 - 09:20.


RC_1140 #30 Posted Oct 27 2018 - 07:31

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It did bug me that they buffed the Type 59 and the T-34-3 turrets so they were stronger than the T55's. And they are basically the same tank. 

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TBH the T55a was slow and needed a bit of an engine buff. The 260 doesn't really need gun handling changes it does, however, need major armor revisions and some actually gun depression. it's taller than the is7 but has less gun depression has overmatchable armor just underneath the turret in the front which needs a major buff to probably where the is7's is at 140 mm and like is already planned the major changes to the turret armor itself because it's borderline useless as it currently. More than anything though the armor just underneath the turret in the front and gun depression need to be buffed. Right now with its awkward height and lack of gun depression you can't make use of the armor for much of anything. 

 

I worked so hard for the 260 and for it to be complete garbage compared to the is7 and the wz11 5a is extremely unacceptable by any standards. Most players won't ever get a 260 but they can easily free xp to a 5a which even with these buffs is still far superior. Hell, even the new 277 is far superior to this tank even after the buff you are imposing.



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View PostRECON_RANGER, on Oct 26 2018 - 16:01, said:

 

The entire German Tech tree is one big steaming ball of SH*T, but WG is buffing the one tank in the tree that is GOOD (because it's based on a Russian tank).

 

How about buffing these German TECH-TREE tanks:

 

EVERY SINGLE GERMAN TIER 10

EVERY SINGLE GERMAN TIER 9

EVERY SINGLE GERMAN TIER 8

 

You see where I am going with this?

 

There isn't a single tank in the entire German Tree that could not use some kind of buff, but WG is buffing the best tank in the entire German tree.

 

 

 

This has to be deliberate right, a slap in the face to the entire German tech-tree, or do you think WG is this incompetent?

 

You don't know what you're talking about if you think the german line is underpowered (hence asking for a buff). The Maus, E50m, JG E100 are in fine spots to name a few. I'd say the maus is one of the best tier 10 heavies (70% winrate in mine), but the E50m and JG E100 are in good spots too. Not the best but far from bad. How can you be butthurt that they're buffing a german tank with russian origins? It's still german.

RECON_RANGER #33 Posted Oct 29 2018 - 17:34

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You have got to be JOKING.

 

I will admit the Maus is the best German tier 10, but let's see you put your money where your mouth is and play any German tier 10 in the next ranked season. 

 

Here is a pretty good chart from The Armored Patrol ranking all the tier 10's.  I don't understand why he has the 277 so low or the super conq when their totals are so high, but overall the charge is pretty good.

 

Do you see any German tanks in the top 50% except the Maus?

 

There are 4 German tanks in the bottom 7, FOUR!!!!!!!! 

 

Are you going to argue that any of these 4 tanks are not complete garbage?  You could move all 4 of these tanks to tier 9 and they would still be mediocre at best except the E100 where the gigantic turret face would not longer be an autopen.  


Edited by RECON_RANGER, Oct 29 2018 - 17:55.


RECON_RANGER #34 Posted Oct 29 2018 - 17:36

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RECON_RANGER #35 Posted Oct 29 2018 - 17:41

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here are the tanks there were played in the last ranked season.  Do you see any German tanks?

 

NOBODY played the E50M or the Leopard I, NOBODY, because they are both GARBAGE.

 

The Maus, E100 and PZR VII were RARELY played and I know someone who played the Maus because it is his only tier 10 heavy so some of these tanks were played because of a lack of options not because they are any good, but if you had any of the OP heavies why in the world would you play a German heavy in ranked?

 


Edited by RECON_RANGER, Oct 29 2018 - 18:01.


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View PostxFearTheReaper, on Oct 29 2018 - 16:56, said:

 

You don't know what you're talking about if you think the german line is underpowered (hence asking for a buff). The Maus, E50m, JG E100 are in fine spots to name a few. I'd say the maus is one of the best tier 10 heavies (70% winrate in mine), but the E50m and JG E100 are in good spots too. Not the best but far from bad. How can you be butthurt that they're buffing a german tank with russian origins? It's still german.

 

You have got to be JOKING.

 

I will admit the Maus is the best German tier 10, but let's see you put your money where your mouth is and play any German tier 10 in the next ranked season. 

 

 


Edited by RECON_RANGER, Oct 29 2018 - 17:47.


RECON_RANGER #37 Posted Oct 29 2018 - 17:59

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View PostRECON_RANGER, on Oct 29 2018 - 17:41, said:

here are the tanks there were played in the last ranked season.  Do you see any German tanks?

 

NOBODY played the E50M or the Leopard I, NOBODY.

 

The Maus, E100 and PZR VII were RARELY played and I know someone who played the Maus because it is his only tier 10 heavy so some of these tanks were played because of a lack of options not because they are any good, but if you had any of the OP heavies why in the world would you play a German heavy in ranked?

 

 

Ranked is totally dominated by a handful (Primarily Russian) of brawling tanks and others with strong turret armor. 

Basically if it wasn’t for the Super Conq/5A, Ranked would be 90% Russian tanks.

But don’t worry, WG “collects data” and will make adjustments accordingly.

 

ROFL


Edited by RECON_RANGER, Oct 29 2018 - 18:01.


Avalon304 #38 Posted Nov 06 2018 - 21:31

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Just read a rumor that the pen of the gun is being buffed to 221mm of penetration.

 

LEAVE! THE! PENETRATION! ALONE! 201mm of penetration is fine unless people insist on face checking super heavies.



nrnstraswa #39 Posted Nov 12 2018 - 22:36

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I thought the pen would get buffed, that's really bad for a tier 9. 




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