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Dogg_zilla #1 Posted Nov 03 2018 - 03:06

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Seriously, if you are going to leave the game in such an unplayable condition that even a third of tier X tanks cant get more than one penetration per battle, then just let players quit. 

 

There is no way that players should have to put up with the game making it impossible to hit or penetrate other tanks on a regular basis like this. 

 

Im having like a 30% hit rate on recent battles. And I only take fully aimed shots. 

 

Even point blank are missing. 

 

And its not just me, a third of the team cant even get 2 hits. 

 

Fix the game or let people quit without penalties already. 



Silversound #2 Posted Nov 03 2018 - 03:20

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Dogg_zilla #3 Posted Nov 03 2018 - 03:20

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Seriously, last game I was second best player and I only got 3 hits. The top player got 5. 

 

The bottom 10 players got 1 penetration or less! 

 

Its like RNG is on crack or something, the game becomes unplayable for entire teams! 


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KingAuthur #4 Posted Nov 03 2018 - 03:41

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looks like tier 10 tanks are a wargaming joke

except the Russian tank trees of course

they get all the buffs and good guns and armor

but wargaming says it's all about balance



ArmorStorm #5 Posted Nov 03 2018 - 03:50

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By all means quit.  There is no penalty for doing so. 

Lesser_Spotted_Panzer #6 Posted Nov 03 2018 - 04:05

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WHAATTT?

You are complaining that tier 10 tanks are bad?

I play most games at tier 8, and 90% of the time I am bottom tier. Perhaps you should play some tier 8 games to get a better perspective on the state of the game.



GeorgePreddy #7 Posted Nov 03 2018 - 05:01

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Says he can't pen even when using the highest tier tanks in the game... blames the game.

 

Claims the game won't let him quit.

 

Claims he's only doing 1 shot of damage per game... blames the game.

 

Wow, this game must be a meany.

 

 

 

 

 



death_stryker #8 Posted Nov 03 2018 - 05:15

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View PostDogg_zilla, on Nov 02 2018 - 19:06, said:

even a third of tier X tanks cant get more than one penetration per battle

 

impossible to hit or penetrate other tanks on a regular basis

 

Even point blank are missing. 

Where are you getting this from? Why is it that everything you have mentioned here I have yet to encounter? Do you have numbers to back this up?

 

I've been playing solely tier 8 for the last ~30 games, meaning I've been playing tier 10 3/5/7 for the most part. And you know what? In the Charioteer, of all tanks, with 0.27 dispersion on moving, I haven't been finding it "impossible to hit or penetrate other tanks" at all, and my point-blank shots, with my reticle covering a good third of my whole screen, have still been hitting pretty consistently. Not sure what you've been playing recently, but not many tanks in the game have worse bloom than the Charioteer, especially when I'm playing it.

 

By the way, a 30% hit rate is concerning; you might want to reconsider your playstyle. Also, fully aimed does not equal well aimed. 

 

If you're wondering if the game is currently "unplayable" for me, well, it's the exact opposite. I'm currently having a lot of fun in the Charioteer, and doing well. Maybe this game's just not for you :|



Mojo_Riesing #9 Posted Nov 03 2018 - 05:19

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yah...life is tough but, heck...play some arty and have fun again!

Insanefriend #10 Posted Nov 03 2018 - 05:36

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If your having problems penning shots take the time to learn armor profiles of the targets you are shooting at.  I've yet to see a t10 tank that misses anywhere near as much as you imply, tiers four though six on the other hand have some really bad guns.  Don't even get me started on the pray and spray tier two premiums they hand out all the time.  I'm looking at you t2 combat car, 50 rounds, 25 hits, 10 pens, but man that thing is a blast. 

Edited by Insanefriend, Nov 03 2018 - 05:37.


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As someone who plays tier 10 almost exclusively, I can say without a doubt that you are insane. No tier 10 has a problem penning shots; even light tanks with around 240 mm of pen (the lowest at tier 10) have sufficient pen to pen everything in the front except for super heavies. And that's not even talking about prem ammo bs, which all but negates armor. Really, at the moment, it's too easy to pen things at tier 10.

FearTheBadger #12 Posted Nov 03 2018 - 15:31

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Its like any tier learn where to pen tanks.  I have been playing for awhile and still learning where tanks weak spots whether they have been in the game for a while or they are newly added.  It just takes time.  Just be patient :)

 

PS: don't encourage players to leave NA has a low player base as it is right now.  We don;t need to start losing more players.  Just saying



Dogg_zilla #13 Posted Nov 04 2018 - 17:26

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View PostFearTheBadger, on Nov 03 2018 - 15:31, said:

Its like any tier learn where to pen tanks.  I have been playing for awhile and still learning where tanks weak spots whether they have been in the game for a while or they are newly added.  It just takes time.  Just be patient :)

 

PS: don't encourage players to leave NA has a low player base as it is right now.  We don;t need to start losing more players.  Just saying

 

Nobody can penetrate if they cant hit ANY PART OF THE TANK. 

 

Literally having entire teams where nobody can even make contact with the enemy, let alone penetrate them! 

 

They completely [edited] up the server side calculations in this last update. 

 

 



Dogg_zilla #14 Posted Nov 04 2018 - 17:30

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View PostRickEdwards, on Nov 03 2018 - 15:22, said:

As someone who plays tier 10 almost exclusively, I can say without a doubt that you are insane. No tier 10 has a problem penning shots; even light tanks with around 240 mm of pen (the lowest at tier 10) have sufficient pen to pen everything in the front except for super heavies. And that's not even talking about prem ammo bs, which all but negates armor. Really, at the moment, it's too easy to pen things at tier 10.

 

Do you really even play this game or are you just making up numbers so you can argue on your big brother's forum account? 240 cant even pen most tier X mediums from the front. 

 

The after game stats dont lie. Entire teams are unable to even HIT the other tanks, let alone penetrate them. 

 

I just had a game where one side EVERY TANK was able to make 3 penetrations or more, but the top tank on my side only had 5 hits and 3 pens. 

 

RNG is dysfunctional. Its a fact. Deal with it. 

 

 



Dogg_zilla #15 Posted Nov 04 2018 - 17:32

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In my last round half the enemy team was able to get 9+ penetrations while the top players on my own team only got 8 hits and 5 penetrations. 

 

RNG has absolutely lost its mind. 



scharnhorst310 #16 Posted Nov 04 2018 - 17:38

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Let's say that something weird is going on. Post up some replays. Evidence never hurts, it can only help. 

Dogg_zilla #17 Posted Nov 04 2018 - 17:39

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Last round got ZERO penetrations with the FV4005 including hitting an AMX 105 for zero. 

 

My entire team collapsed within about 2 minutes of the game starting because they could not even harm the enemy. 

 

RNG has been completely butchered. Its not even possible to hit the enemy much of the time, let alone get penetrations. 

 

 

 

 



Dogg_zilla #18 Posted Nov 04 2018 - 17:47

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View Postscharnhorst310, on Nov 04 2018 - 17:38, said:

Let's say that something weird is going on. Post up some replays. Evidence never hurts, it can only help. 

 

They need to stop using MM to determine RNG ahead of time, thats what they need to do. 

 

I havent had a penetration in 3 games and just ammo racked another tank for 100% of their health with my first penetration in 3 games.  

 

RNG is absolutely insane right now. 



closer733 #19 Posted Nov 04 2018 - 17:48

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What your claiming is illogical. It can't be impossible to hit people and impossible to pen people; and have other players obviously hitting and obviously penning because they are wrecking you and your team...

scharnhorst310 #20 Posted Nov 04 2018 - 17:54

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View PostDogg_zilla, on Nov 04 2018 - 08:47, said:

 

They need to stop using MM to determine RNG ahead of time, thats what they need to do. 

 

I havent had a penetration in 3 games and just ammo racked another tank for 100% of their health with my first penetration in 3 games.  

 

RNG is absolutely insane right now. 

 

I'm not disagreeing that RNG is can be absurdly out of whack. I had a game way back in the waffle where emptied an entire clip fully aimed in on a Lorraine, I only had 1 pen for damage. But I have a replay, and a video of youtube. Or the game where my first 3 shots were ammo racks in a lowe, and everyone was convinced I was hacking (have that replay)... I forgot the statistics but like 1 trillion shells of have been fired in this game, like 10 billion matches, just astronomical numbers. This game isn't about 1 match, or 10, etc Thats why i say I believe that this game can have bizarre events.  




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