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Over Use of Premium Rounds and Low Rolls

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Poll: gold rounds and low rolls (65 members have cast votes)

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are people using too many gold rounds

  1. yes (34 votes [52.31%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 52.31%

  2. no (31 votes [47.69%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 47.69%

are low rolls annoying

  1. yes (42 votes [64.62%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 64.62%

  2. no (23 votes [35.38%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 35.38%

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RedTheRabbit_RB_ #41 Posted Nov 05 2018 - 15:57

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View Post_ShakeNBake_, on Nov 05 2018 - 15:41, said:

Please what? I’m taking any advantage I can get. Sure, I have to pay real money to do it long term, but that’s what keeps the servers running.

 

no I don't mean that I mean when you said you're a bad player. you my friend is far from that 

RedTheRabbit_RB_ #42 Posted Nov 05 2018 - 15:58

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View PostThe_IS7_Specialist, on Nov 05 2018 - 15:55, said:

 

Are you a woman? 

 

am a man 

jamesdoz #43 Posted Nov 05 2018 - 16:01

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View PostRedTheRabbit_RB_, on Nov 04 2018 - 20:59, said:

so I stopped playing this game last year because I had to train to become a police officer didn't work out , so I got a normal job saved up and bought a new PC for gaming because my laptop died ( RIP Jack I really hated you). I came back to the game and I lost my old account so I made a new one and because I have a job (soon I won't have one sadly) I bought a few things to help me get back in the game (didn't buy any tier 8 thou not good enough for that level) and I notice people use a lot of gold rounds like a lot even when they don't need it, example am driving my light tanks and the top tier meds are using gold even when all their facing is only light tanks and at times it gets really annoying like because Armor doesn't really work for lower tier tanks. a lot of the times I stop playing because of that.

And the low rolls God I was playing my IS using the 100mm gun and it does 250dmg so am shooting the udes and it was on like 205hp and I was expecting to kill it but no, I rolled for 195 like how is that fair and it happens far too often with Russian tanks mostly (that's what I notice )so yeah that's it. what you guys think?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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P.S: am not spamming I have no idea how to add that to my signature, if any of you know please tell me .and thank you for your time :) happy tanking

 

So you got accepted and flunked out or dropped out? I know why, Piss bus got you didn't it. :amazed:

_Kradok_ #44 Posted Nov 05 2018 - 16:02

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View PostRedTheRabbit_RB_, on Nov 05 2018 - 09:56, said:

 

so unpolished , rather disgusting I would say but it seems I can't offended you  

 

 

 

Huh?  You're TRYING to "offend" me?  That's your end-game?  

 

OK, try this for me...  drop your 'attitude', wipe your sweaty palms, don't rage-pound your keyboard, sit back, BREATHE.....and let Grandpa Kradok give you a little life-lesson...

 

You have to matter in my life in order to offend me.  I ALLOW you to 'offend' me or not, you don't decide that. 

 

 

 

Seriously, how far in to your dome am I right now?  



RedTheRabbit_RB_ #45 Posted Nov 05 2018 - 16:03

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View Postjamesdoz, on Nov 05 2018 - 16:01, said:

 

So you got accepted and flunked out or dropped out? I know why, Piss bus got you didn't it. :amazed:

 

I stopped because I was writing my book and I needed time to complete it .

RedTheRabbit_RB_ #46 Posted Nov 05 2018 - 16:06

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View Post_Kradok_, on Nov 05 2018 - 16:02, said:

 

 

Huh?  You're TRYING to "offend" me?  That's your end-game?  

 

OK, try this for me...  drop your 'attitude', wipe your sweaty palms, don't rage-pound your keyboard, sit back, BREATHE.....and let Grandpa Kradok give you a little life-lesson...

 

You have to matter in my life in order to offend me.  I ALLOW you to 'offend' me or not, you don't decide that. 

 

 

 

Seriously, how far in to your dome am I right now?  

 

haha grandpa oh that's why you're like that . oh ok then teach me sir . 

"seriously, how far in to your dome am I right now? " I have better things on my mind , don't stress yourself am not thinking about ya



SwollenOstrich #47 Posted Nov 05 2018 - 16:07

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View Post_Kradok_, on Nov 05 2018 - 09:02, said:

You have to matter in my life in order to offend me.  I ALLOW you to 'offend' me or not, you don't decide that. 


I lied about leaving. I came back for the laughs and get this gem. This. So much this. 

The only thing is, this thread is like watching a Rottweiler toy with a Pound Puppy.



_Kradok_ #48 Posted Nov 05 2018 - 16:08

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View PostRedTheRabbit_RB_, on Nov 05 2018 - 10:06, said:

 

haha grandpa oh that's why you're like that . oh ok then teach me sir . 

"seriously, how far in to your dome am I right now? " I have better things on my mind , don't stress yourself am not thinking about ya

 

If you're not thinking about me (your words)…

 

1) Why did you respond (every time)

2) Why ask me to teach you?

3) If they were 'better things', you'd be doing them, not responding...

4) You're not thinking about me... you're obsessing.  

 

If this continues, I'm going to start calling you son (there's a hidden reference there).



RedTheRabbit_RB_ #49 Posted Nov 05 2018 - 16:09

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View PostGuido1212, on Nov 05 2018 - 15:56, said:

Thanks for the reply.

 

This is very subjective.  The fact is premium rounds are better.  There are situations where they are occasionally worse but those aren’t frequent enough to matter in the long run.

 

Over use is also very subjective.  As there is no rule, or even a consensus about how much premium is too much it’s diwn to personal opinion.  Some might say a Type 4/5 shooting standsrd HE is too much.  Subjective.

 

I personally thin premium is need of serious rebalance.  Having two wildly different pens to balance armor against is bad for overall balance and gameplay.  But premium ammo isnt just about balance.

 

I don’t care much for the too much premium ammo orthodoxy.  It’s just a weird subset of complaints with little basis.  Yes premium needs balancing, but getting bent by its use as it’s currently meched is odd to me.

 

I see ok. 

you can't use HEAT on tracks but sometimes it does damage sometimes and that's because of RNG

yeah am trying to reply to everyone 



MacDaddyMatty #50 Posted Nov 05 2018 - 16:09

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View Post_ShakeNBake_, on Nov 05 2018 - 09:32, said:

I’m bad and can’t figure out how to be better so I put gold rounds in the first slot in all my tanks. I lol-racked a Defender right through the turret in my T30. Was gr8.

 

I hate when I under-estimate and end up on the receiving end of the T30s boom stick.

It's a monster.

(Note to self: it only LOOKS like a T34)



RedTheRabbit_RB_ #51 Posted Nov 05 2018 - 16:11

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View PostSwollenOstrich, on Nov 05 2018 - 16:07, said:


I lied about leaving. I came back for the laughs and get this gem. This. So much this. 

The only thing is, this thread is like watching a Rottweiler toy with a Pound Puppy.

 

you have any popcorn because this guy doesn't want to stop

RedTheRabbit_RB_ #52 Posted Nov 05 2018 - 16:12

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View Post_Kradok_, on Nov 05 2018 - 16:08, said:

 

If you're not thinking about me (your words)…

 

1) Why did you respond (every time)

2) Why ask me to teach you?

3) If they were 'better things', you'd be doing them, not responding...

4) You're not thinking about me... you're obsessing.  

 

If this continues, I'm going to start calling you son (there's a hidden reference there).

 

ok then. 

then good bye :) 



awildseaking #53 Posted Nov 05 2018 - 16:12

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View PostGuido1212, on Nov 05 2018 - 08:33, said:

I see people tell us we use too much gold “when we don’t need to”. But never once do they really qualify what that means.

Using gold has little to do with need and lots to do with want and can.

 

If there's more than a 10% possibility you will low roll and fail to penetrate, you need gold. That's just too much of a chance to take when it comes to securing important damage and kills.

 

If pen rolls weren't as severe as 25%, perhaps people wouldn't spam gold as much. Of course I'm going to fire gold (and everyone should) when that means a 20%+ increase in chance to pen.

 

Fact is, with what few remaining weak spots there are in this game, they aren't truly weak spots because a lot of tanks in their tier range can't pen them 90-100% without gold.


Edited by awildseaking, Nov 05 2018 - 16:15.


RedTheRabbit_RB_ #54 Posted Nov 05 2018 - 16:21

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View Postawildseaking, on Nov 05 2018 - 16:12, said:

 

If there's more than a 10% possibility you will low roll and fail to penetrate, you need gold. That's just too much of a chance to take when it comes to securing important damage and kills.

 

If pen rolls weren't as severe as 25%, perhaps people wouldn't spam gold as much. Of course I'm going to fire gold (and everyone should) when that means a 20%+ increase in chance to pen.

 

Fact is, with what few remaining weak spots there are in this game, they aren't truly weak spots because a lot of tanks in their tier range can't pen them 90-100% without gold.

 

fair enough .

changed my mind there ( a little)

those things won't be changing anytime soon 



straszny_gracz_PL #55 Posted Nov 05 2018 - 16:21

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imo, gold isn't worth arguing anymore, have to compensate for fool proof tanks with insane armor spots (or just no weakpoints for standard anymore), to give yourself additional velocity depending on the shell, usually if a tank can pen you with standard regardless, why bother about it? Not your credits wasted.

 

And yes the damage rolls can be ridiculous, lmbo.



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View PostRedTheRabbit_RB_, on Nov 05 2018 - 09:11, said:

 

you have any popcorn because this guy doesn't want to stop

 

Lol. Nice try. Go ahead and pretend you are Rottweiler and not the Pound Puppy. That is why I am here eating the popcorn.

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View PostSwollenOstrich, on Nov 05 2018 - 10:33, said:

 

Lol. Nice try. Go ahead and pretend you are Rottweiler and not the Pound Puppy. That is why I am here eating the popcorn.

 

Right?.. This is gold :trollface:

Guido1212 #58 Posted Nov 05 2018 - 16:44

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View Postawildseaking, on Nov 05 2018 - 15:12, said:

 

If there's more than a 10% possibility you will low roll and fail to penetrate, you need gold. That's just too much of a chance to take when it comes to securing important damage and kills.

 

If pen rolls weren't as severe as 25%, perhaps people wouldn't spam gold as much. Of course I'm going to fire gold (and everyone should) when that means a 20%+ increase in chance to pen.

 

Fact is, with what few remaining weak spots there are in this game, they aren't truly weak spots because a lot of tanks in their tier range can't pen them 90-100% without gold.

Yes, and the larger issue is premium round pen balance vs armor values.  Two wildly different pen values for each gun makes an already very difficult balance problem much more difficult .



Beepboopbeep_1 #59 Posted Nov 05 2018 - 16:50

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Sh** if I was a fail reroll like yourself I'd be pretty pissed at not being able to afford premium too and take it out on those who can.

Edited by Beepboopbeep_1, Nov 05 2018 - 16:55.


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View PostRedTheRabbit_RB_, on Nov 05 2018 - 10:11, said:

 

you have any popcorn because this guy doesn't want to stop

 

I'll stop now, I apologize-ish

 

Climbing in your dome, riling you up to delusional levels was enjoyable... but I need to help friends grind tanks (using gold ammo too most of the time)…  :honoring:






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