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JTM78 #1 Posted Nov 06 2018 - 02:51

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I have been playing this for over 5 years now and I can say since 9.18 the game has just gotten worse. 9.18 brought the light tanks to tier X but removed the roll of light tanks as scouts. 9.18 nerfed artillery to death, the laughable minimal buffs it received for the MASSIVE nerfing is just shameful. I have hardly played my artillery since then. 9.18 brought the WORST MM since the +2-2 was brought to the game. What is worse about the MM is WoT refused to believe the players that MM was not rotating tier position properly like WoT said it would. It has been well over 4 months since WoT finally admitted that the MM tier rotation was never put in the MM program! What really gets me on all of this is WoT said it would be a year before they could fix MM!

While I understand that the RU and EU are a larger player population for WoT and NA is a much smaller player base. WoT needs to ask them self why? RU as a country has half the people of America alone. The EU a very small population compared to America. The thing is the NA players spend more cash on the game per player then any other region. That has to tell WoT that the NA players want to support the game but WoT is making it very hard to do that!

General things that could make WoT better.
1. Give light tanks back their role as scouts.
2. When advancing in tiers the higher tank should not be worse then the fully upgrade tank you just advanced from.
3. WoT need to be more effective at owning their mistakes and fixing them quickly. MM should not take over a 18 months to fixed!
4. We need more balanced maps, that don't favor one class more then the others.
5. The map rotation needs to be fixed. I am tired of seeing the same 4-6 maps for an hour.
6. RNG needs to dialed back some. Their is no reason that a full aimed shoot should be hitting dirt!
7. If WoT want to make a full corridor city brawler map, then WoT needs to make a fully open scouting and artillery map too.
8. Quit favoring the RU line of tanks. It is very clear and does not seat well with the player base.
9. I would like to see the sandbox used as a test base to remove the over match rule. The reason behind that is because the only line that has very large guns the whole way through it is the RU line.
10. Artillery needs to be buffed a little and the aim time needs reduced and soft gun stats need buffed or even make a vertical stabilizer unit for artillery. So when on corridor maps it can brawl if it needs to.
11. Quit trying to fix or change things that DON'T need it! The depot and store did not need touched!
12. Stop the stacking penalties of tanks! Ok we get the ammo rack knocked out we get an increase to reload and we get the gunner knocked out we get an increase again. Please stop that nothing like have a reload that is 3 times the original reload and have a higher change to explode too. Their is no reason for stacking penalties.
13. The soft stats for tanks need to added into the in game garage stats and compare tool too.
14. Reduce the cost of artillery shells because they do less damage but cost per 9.18 still.
15. Give artillery a normal zoom out like a standard tank along with the artillery view. That would allow artillery to play on those BS corridor maps a little easier.

Dogg_zilla #2 Posted Nov 06 2018 - 03:17

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View PostJTM78, on Nov 06 2018 - 02:51, said:


6. RNG needs to dialed back some. Their is no reason that a full aimed shoot should be hitting dirt!
 

 

This times 1000. 

 

Game after game there are entire teams who are unable to hit the enemy. Either one side or the other suddenly becomes unable to hit the other side. 

 

It makes the game absolutely rage inducing to play. 

 

I used to spend thousands on the game but cut back to near nothing because they keep screwing up RNG so badly that it makes the game unplayable. 

 

Nobody should be getting zero damage at point blank because of some number generator. Rounds should not be bouncing off the sides of turrets constantly when they should have 100% penetration against armor a third as thick as the penetration of the round. 

 

 

RNG is absolutely insane right now. 

 



Dogg_zilla #3 Posted Nov 06 2018 - 03:40

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Last round had a fully aimed shot at a tank that was completely filling my reticle just fly off and do nothing at all. 

 

RNG is absolutely insane right now. 



Dogg_zilla #4 Posted Nov 06 2018 - 03:44

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Just bounced TWO point blank shots from a T110E4 off the flat sides of an E100 and a Badger. 

 

RNG is broken. They need to admit it and fix it already. This is completely unacceptable. 



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RNG is perfectly normal for me, I play at a steady 160 ping, very little lag, my well aimed shots all stay inside my fully closed reticle.

 

Maybe y'all are having some kind of internet or hardware issues.

 

 

 

 

 



Dogg_zilla #6 Posted Nov 06 2018 - 04:11

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Just went from repeatedly doing ZERO damage to doing 6052 damage and setting a new personal high score. 

 

If that doesnt prove RNG is broken, I dont know what does!



Dogg_zilla #7 Posted Nov 06 2018 - 04:12

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View PostGeorgePreddy, on Nov 06 2018 - 03:44, said:

RNG is perfectly normal for me, I play at a steady 160 ping, very little lag, my well aimed shots all stay inside my fully closed reticle.

 

Maybe y'all are having some kind of internet or hardware issues.

 

 

 

 

 

 

And 80% of losing teams that cant even make contact with the enemy more than 3-4 times, let alone penetrate them? 



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RNG can be rage inducing but it also can be very forgiving. I'm sure most people have had an encounter with a Jagzilla with what could only be known as a miracle that you bounced it's shot knowing the fact your alive is due to RNG. So it may pisss you off but you will only remember when it's the bad RNG not the countless times it was good RNG.

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Just had TWO rounds with 380 penetration bounce off an E5. 

 

The very same rounds can pen ANYTHING else in the game, yet TWO of them bounce off the most easily penetrated tier X heavy???

 

RNG has gone absolutely insane. 



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One round Im getting over 6000 the next I get 600 and I get two 380mm pen rounds bounce off laughable armor. 

 

They absolutely butchered RNG 



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One again, suddenly 380mm rounds failing to penetrate the weak spots on tanks. I can penetrate the thick armor on the front of heavy TDs but I cant penetrate weak spots and sides on other tanks. 

 

RNG has seriously lost its mind. 

 

Then I got killed by arty in seemingly impossible shots that would have required they be on our side of the map. 

 

Ive never seen a game so suddenly become complete garbage after an update. 

 

 



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Garbage is the only thing I can currently describe the game as. 

 

I really have never once had a game so suddenly become this unstable and unplayable in 25 years of gaming. 

 

Not one. 



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This round I had THREE rounds with 380mm penetration bounce off the SIDES of tanks. 

 

Seriously, what the [edited]did they do to the game?

 

Its unplayable. Absolutely completely unplayable. 

 

Why would anyone spend any money on a game that doesnt work? 



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I play on lowest settings.  On a laptop made in 2010.  With a wireless internet that doesn't see a wire for 7.2 miles after it leaves my antenna on the roof.  And a wireless mouse.  I get about 9fps.  All the things you are saying makes the game unplayable, I, too, deal with on a daily basis.  Somehow, though, this is how "unplayable" the game is for me:

  Total Past 24 Hours Past 7 days Past 30 days 60 days • 1000 Battles
Battles 22448 64 126 532 1192
Avg. Tier 4.43 5 4.98 4.93 4.94
Victories 11409 50.82% 40 62.5% 70 55.56% 275 51.69% 626 52.52%
Defeats 10849 48.33 23 35.94% 55 43.65% 254 47.74% 556 46.64%
Draws 190 0.85 1 1.56% 1 0.79% 3 0.56% 10 0.84%
Survived 7350 32.74 32 50% 53 42.06% 215 40.41% 505 42.37%
Destroyed 16008 0.71 49 0.77 98 0.78 450 0.85 1048 0.88
K/D Ratio 1.06 1.53 1.34 1.42 1.53
Detected 13346 0.59 8 0.13 13 0.1 70 0.13 130 0.11
Damage 7839472 349.23 31650 494.53 62932 499.46 250910 471.64 577488 484.47
Capture Points 9455 0.42 32 0.5 32 0.25 146 0.27 446 0.37
Defense Points 16689 0.74 13 0.2 26 0.21 182 0.34 602 0.51
Experience 6089579 271.27 21469 335.45 38492 305.49 148033 278.26 339955 285.2
WN8 879 1113 1031 983 1014

 

 

I'm thinking you folks need to take a break and get some fresh air.  Oh, and maybe quit blaming the game.  Things are not going well for you, I get that.  I cannot say that the game is any easier for me to deal with than it is for you guys and I have MORE to deal with than YOU do by far.

 

SO... I'm going to offer that you're triggered.  I'm going to suggest that you are Triggered BEFORE you even fire up the game.  And, because you're triggered and negativized before you start playing, you cannot play as effectively as you're used to playing.

 

Any recommendation beyond: "Take a break," would be, IMO, unwise.

 

 

GL, HF & Hang Loose Away From the Game for a While.  A break is what will do you the most good.

 

 

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View Postdunniteowl, on Nov 06 2018 - 06:35, said:

I play on lowest settings.  On a laptop made in 2010.  With a wireless internet that doesn't see a wire for 7.2 miles after it leaves my antenna on the roof.  And a wireless mouse.  I get about 9fps.  All the things you are saying makes the game unplayable, I, too, deal with on a daily basis.  Somehow, though, this is how "unplayable" the game is for me:

  Total Past 24 Hours Past 7 days Past 30 days 60 days • 1000 Battles
Battles 22448 64 126 532 1192
Avg. Tier 4.43 5 4.98 4.93 4.94
Victories 11409 50.82% 40 62.5% 70 55.56% 275 51.69% 626 52.52%
Defeats 10849 48.33 23 35.94% 55 43.65% 254 47.74% 556 46.64%
Draws 190 0.85 1 1.56% 1 0.79% 3 0.56% 10 0.84%
Survived 7350 32.74 32 50% 53 42.06% 215 40.41% 505 42.37%
Destroyed 16008 0.71 49 0.77 98 0.78 450 0.85 1048 0.88
K/D Ratio 1.06 1.53 1.34 1.42 1.53
Detected 13346 0.59 8 0.13 13 0.1 70 0.13 130 0.11
Damage 7839472 349.23 31650 494.53 62932 499.46 250910 471.64 577488 484.47
Capture Points 9455 0.42 32 0.5 32 0.25 146 0.27 446 0.37
Defense Points 16689 0.74 13 0.2 26 0.21 182 0.34 602 0.51
Experience 6089579 271.27 21469 335.45 38492 305.49 148033 278.26 339955 285.2
WN8 879 1113 1031 983 1014

 

 

I'm thinking you folks need to take a break and get some fresh air.  Oh, and maybe quit blaming the game.  Things are not going well for you, I get that.  I cannot say that the game is any easier for me to deal with than it is for you guys and I have MORE to deal with than YOU do by far.

 

SO... I'm going to offer that you're triggered.  I'm going to suggest that you are Triggered BEFORE you even fire up the game.  And, because you're triggered and negativized before you start playing, you cannot play as effectively as you're used to playing.

 

Any recommendation beyond: "Take a break," would be, IMO, unwise.

 

 

GL, HF & Hang Loose Away From the Game for a While.  A break is what will do you the most good.

 

 

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luck of the draw is with you but it sure is not for me regardless of how well I try.  Good Job on You

Edited by FearTheBadger, Nov 06 2018 - 19:57.


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Hey, I am seeing MORE than my 'fair share' of trash teams, believe you me.  I guess the difference is all I keep thinking during those moments is:

What can I do to make a difference?  What is the team doing across the map?  How can I help?  Can I get that shot in and not take damage?

 

My team being "losers" or whatever derogatory terms one can devise is NOT on my mind -- that's a distraction I cannot afford to waste my precious mental effort upon.  I would then be more attentive to my "bad team" than the "good team" that is trashing it.  Sure, I lose.  I've been on a slowly declining slump for the last few weeks, until the last few days.  What did I do?  I took a break, gave myself a mental 'kick in the seat of the pants' and got my head screwed back on straight.

 

Now things are looking up and I tend to play what most folks consider "trash" units.  It's all in how you view things and how that view can literally "poison" your own game play.  I don't like poison.

 

 

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View PostGeorgePreddy, on Nov 05 2018 - 20:44, said:

RNG is perfectly normal for me, I play at a steady 160 ping, very little lag, my well aimed shots all stay inside my fully closed reticle.

 

Maybe y'all are having some kind of internet or hardware issues.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I am talking about shoots when the enemy tanks take up 90%-95% of the aim circle but then RNG says dirt for you.

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View Postdunniteowl, on Nov 06 2018 - 19:57, said:

Hey, I am seeing MORE than my 'fair share' of trash teams, believe you me.  I guess the difference is all I keep thinking during those moments is:

What can I do to make a difference?  What is the team doing across the map?  How can I help?  Can I get that shot in and not take damage?

 

My team being "losers" or whatever derogatory terms one can devise is NOT on my mind -- that's a distraction I cannot afford to waste my precious mental effort upon.  I would then be more attentive to my "bad team" than the "good team" that is trashing it.  Sure, I lose.  I've been on a slowly declining slump for the last few weeks, until the last few days.  What did I do?  I took a break, gave myself a mental 'kick in the seat of the pants' and got my head screwed back on straight.

 

Now things are looking up and I tend to play what most folks consider "trash" units.  It's all in how you view things and how that view can literally "poison" your own game play.  I don't like poison.

 

 

OvO

 

I would think the slow decline would be due to the "Dark Front" event which drew quite a few players from the normal pool of players.

 

Match making only creates teams based on tier, vehicle type and availability of tanks in the queue.  So things being random then some players will get the luck of the draw and others will not.  just a fact.  NA does not have big player pool as does EU for example which adds to the streaky games players get.  NA needs to get more players in the game or else everyone will be playing on EU. 

 

As you mentioned above I approach the game the same way you do but in most of my games it goes for not.

 

In my opinion match making is broken and has been for some time war gaming has admitted to that.

 

https://worldoftanks...tchmaking-0718/

 

section on match making actually applies to all.

 


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True enough.  It's a fair point.  The difference most times, is marginal.  That margin, however, can be ALL THE DIFFERENCE in the world, because it's just enough to make a difference.

 

I can accept that.  I've had some real slumps.  One lasted from last year from about the middle of January to nearly the end of March, where my losses were greater than my wins.  I had good days, though they were seriously outweighed by the bad days over time.  Then, things changed.  In the meantime, I just did my best to keep on focusing on doing my best.

 

The moment I find I am tempted to blame my team, I do my best to stop it.  It is the First Step to being Triggered,  Being Triggered WILL negatively impact your play and that is a fact.  In this condition, any slump or losing streak is just going to be exacerbated.  It's why I am suggesting some folks take a break for a bit.  You gotta get your head and your mind calm and focused on the PLAY.  You can't do that if you start off with a negative frame based on all the things outside of one's control.  

 

In case others are not sure what those factors are, I will post a brief, though not complete list:


MM (No control over that)

Your Team Mates (No control over that)

RNG (No control over that)

Bad Teams (No control over that)

Your Opponents (No control over that)

Gold Round Use (No control over that)

 

All the things over which you have no control are a waste of mental energy and attention when playing.  You just have to deal with it as best you can and the best way to do that is to not let it influence your mental state or emotional state.  Those things are not within your control and to spend time being upset over them while playing is a waste of attention that could be used to get one more shot in, one more kill and move at the appropriate moment, instead of getting to be someone else's kill, damage or win.

 

This is NOT a formula (being focused on game play) for complete success.  It is a formula for consistency for your own play.  THAT, depending on your level of playing skill, some luck and awareness of what's going on in the match, can be that Marginal Difference that Makes ALL the Difference.  And then, when you DO get bad teams, RNG Screwed, etc. you can hit "Battle!" for the next match knowing you did the best you could and that allows you to move on without the negative mindset that comes in when "blame" comes into the scene.

 

It won't make you a unicum.  It won't make you a super star.  It will allow you to shorten the losing streaks, the slumps and smooth out, over time, the rollover losses such that your wins and overall game satisfaction are higher, win or lose.

 

Or at least, I have found that to be so for me.

 

YMMV

 

 

GL, HF & HSYBF!

 

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View Postdunniteowl, on Nov 06 2018 - 06:35, said:

I play on lowest settings.  On a laptop made in 2010.  With a wireless internet that doesn't see a wire for 7.2 miles after it leaves my antenna on the roof.  And a wireless mouse.  I get about 9fps.  All the things you are saying makes the game unplayable, I, too, deal with on a daily basis.  Somehow, though, this is how "unplayable" the game is for me:

  Total Past 24 Hours Past 7 days Past 30 days 60 days • 1000 Battles
Battles 22448 64 126 532 1192
Avg. Tier 4.43 5 4.98 4.93 4.94
Victories 11409 50.82% 40 62.5% 70 55.56% 275 51.69% 626 52.52%
Defeats 10849 48.33 23 35.94% 55 43.65% 254 47.74% 556 46.64%
Draws 190 0.85 1 1.56% 1 0.79% 3 0.56% 10 0.84%
Survived 7350 32.74 32 50% 53 42.06% 215 40.41% 505 42.37%
Destroyed 16008 0.71 49 0.77 98 0.78 450 0.85 1048 0.88
K/D Ratio 1.06 1.53 1.34 1.42 1.53
Detected 13346 0.59 8 0.13 13 0.1 70 0.13 130 0.11
Damage 7839472 349.23 31650 494.53 62932 499.46 250910 471.64 577488 484.47
Capture Points 9455 0.42 32 0.5 32 0.25 146 0.27 446 0.37
Defense Points 16689 0.74 13 0.2 26 0.21 182 0.34 602 0.51
Experience 6089579 271.27 21469 335.45 38492 305.49 148033 278.26 339955 285.2
WN8 879 1113 1031 983 1014

 

 

I'm thinking you folks need to take a break and get some fresh air.  Oh, and maybe quit blaming the game.  Things are not going well for you, I get that.  I cannot say that the game is any easier for me to deal with than it is for you guys and I have MORE to deal with than YOU do by far.

 

SO... I'm going to offer that you're triggered.  I'm going to suggest that you are Triggered BEFORE you even fire up the game.  And, because you're triggered and negativized before you start playing, you cannot play as effectively as you're used to playing.

 

Any recommendation beyond: "Take a break," would be, IMO, unwise.

 

 

GL, HF & Hang Loose Away From the Game for a While.  A break is what will do you the most good.

 

 

OvO

 

Did you even read what I said?

 

380mm penetration rounds bouncing off the SIDES of tanks repeatedly every day? 

 

If you think that involves the skill of the player you must have suffered a stroke. 

 

Skill does not do anything if the shells are bouncing when they should not, or if they cant hit the other tanks at all. 

 

 






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