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ephBomb #1 Posted Nov 07 2018 - 17:24

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Tired of the same MM, problem, I can't get anywhere. Tired of the one sided matches, I can't get away from these horrendous teams. You guys cater to the wrong players. You can't shake all the beatdowns, when their at every tier.

There are just to many Elite and Entitled players versus average players. Your losing us....

Now you want to sell us insurance for the prem time we buy? wth?

 

 



Dockmaster #2 Posted Nov 07 2018 - 17:30

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View PostephBomb, on Nov 07 2018 - 09:24, said:

There are just to many Elite and Entitled players versus average players. Your losing us....

 

 

 

I'm an above average player who must be missing out on this "Elite and Entitled" benefits.

 

HEY WG! I want my share of the "Elite and Entitled" game play!



Anlushac11 #3 Posted Nov 07 2018 - 17:36

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After several matches with the worst possible teams (losing 2-15 in 3 minutes, low tier every match, and in one match a vk100 Mauschen camping base playing TD) I feel your pain. Getting tired of the same crap teams and being low tier match, after match, after match.

Edited by Anlushac11, Nov 07 2018 - 17:37.


BabA_YA6A #4 Posted Nov 07 2018 - 17:40

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View PostDockmaster, on Nov 08 2018 - 00:30, said:

 

I'm an above average player who must be missing out on this "Elite and Entitled" benefits.

 

HEY WG! I want my share of the "Elite and Entitled" game play!

 

GL with that wish!

Thanks god I be in a week overseas for a few month and away from all the madness! Smile_Default.gif



Dain_Ironfoot_ #5 Posted Nov 07 2018 - 17:41

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Sometimes everyone gets those bad streaks.  Just have to try to do your part to help your team.

Backfire_ #6 Posted Nov 07 2018 - 17:46

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View PostephBomb, on Nov 07 2018 - 11:24, said:

Tired of the same MM, problem, I can't get anywhere. Tired of the one sided matches, I can't get away from these horrendous teams. You guys cater to the wrong players. You can't shake all the beatdowns, when their at every tier.

There are just to many Elite and Entitled players versus average players. Your losing us....

Now you want to sell us insurance for the prem time we buy? wth?

 

 

This makes no sense at all.  The 'insurance' is a cash grab directed at the average to below average player.  By definition an 'Elite' player would have less need to buy the insurance....

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Ok... I had my fun... now it's reply time.

 

My take on the MM is we are all in the same boat. There are NO elite and entitled players.

 

What you do have is people who have a handle on the game and excel in it on their own merits.



MacDaddyMatty #8 Posted Nov 07 2018 - 17:54

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“Everyone gets the same crap teams...

What separates good players from bad ones is how you deal with it.“ - Spartan_Striker



4TheBox #9 Posted Nov 07 2018 - 17:58

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Old & wise meatball once said when he left "It is just a video game". I believe there are still some more room to enjoy on this game.

I am currently playing only tier 6s and not focusing on grind or WR. It refreshes my tanking a lot.

 

 


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_Jelly_Tank_ #10 Posted Nov 07 2018 - 18:02

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Some accounts appear to get better match making than other accounts.  There is some glitch in the match maker algorithm that can leave an account on the bad side of the match maker far more often than it should.  The opposite occurs for some players whose account seems to be on the overpowered team more often.  I have quite a few accounts and it was a revelation to me to find that some of them get very good match making consistently, and other accounts get no beneficial match making, and some accounts very poor match making.  My play style does not change and I played the same tanks across each of the accounts but the match maker treated each of the accounts differently.

 

I also noticed that some players have very high win percentages but incredibly poor win8 numbers.  These players were obviously being carried by their teams and a match maker system that was placing them on OP teams often.

 

Most people would not notice the problem and think that the problem is that they are not good enough or skilled enough.  In some cases this is true, however the problem is that the MM is just badly designed and is inadvertently placing you on teams where you will not win or do well.

 

If you feel the match maker is treating you unfairly keep a record of your game play.  Install the XVM mod.  Keep track of the XVM chance to win, your tier level in the match, and whether you won or lost.  After you have played several thousand battles analyze the data to see if there are any trends or indications that the MM is treating you unfairly.  I did this for several of my accounts and found that some accounts were not worth playing.  

 

The match maker in this game needs a major overhaul, and balancing the teams for skill level would go along way toward keeping people in the game, and bringing back some of the players who have quit in frustration.

 



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View PostephBomb, on Nov 07 2018 - 12:24, said:

Tired of the same MM, problem, I can't get anywhere. Tired of the one sided matches, I can't get away from these horrendous teams. You guys cater to the wrong players. You can't shake all the beatdowns, when their at every tier.

There are just to many Elite and Entitled players versus average players. Your losing us....

Now you want to sell us insurance for the prem time we buy? wth?

 

 

 

You are the worst player in the vast majority of your battles.  Accepting that and taking responsibility for it is when you need to start.  There may be horrendous teams, but you are contributing factor #1.  Sorry if that's harsh.  Best to come here to ask for advice instead of trying to placing the blame elsewhere.

GeorgePreddy #12 Posted Nov 07 2018 - 18:07

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View PostephBomb, on Nov 07 2018 - 13:24, said:

Tired of the same MM, problem, I can't get anywhere. Tired of the one sided matches, I can't get away from these horrendous teams. You guys cater to the wrong players. You can't shake all the beatdowns, when   their   they're   at every tier.

There are just   to   too  many Elite and Entitled players versus average players.   Your   You're  losing us....

Now you want to sell us insurance for the prem time we buy? wth?

 

 

 

To claim that players who have put in the work to become good are "elite" is legit... but to call them "entitled" is opposite of the truth.

 

An "entitled" player is one who does not put in the work (or have the talent) to become elite, yet feels that he deserves to get, for free and with no effort, all the good stuff that good players earn.

 

 

 

 

 



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View Post_Jelly_Tank_, on Nov 07 2018 - 12:02, said:

 

Some accounts appear to get better match making than other accounts.  There is some glitch in the match maker algorithm that can leave an account on the bad side of the match maker far more often than it should.  The opposite occurs for some players whose account seems to be on the overpowered team more often.  I have quite a few accounts and it was a revelation to me to find that some of them get very good match making consistently, and other accounts get no beneficial match making, and some accounts very poor match making.  My play style does not change and I played the same tanks across each of the accounts but the match maker treated each of the accounts differently.

 

I also noticed that some players have very high win percentages but incredibly poor win8 numbers.  These players were obviously being carried by their teams and a match maker system that was placing them on OP teams often.

 

Most people would not notice the problem and think that the problem is that they are not good enough or skilled enough.  In some cases this is true, however the problem is that the MM is just badly designed and is inadvertently placing you on teams where you will not win or do well.

 

If you feel the match maker is treating you unfairly keep a record of your game play.  Install the XVM mod.  Keep track of the XVM chance to win, your tier level in the match, and whether you won or lost.  After you have played several thousand battles analyze the data to see if there are any trends or indications that the MM is treating you unfairly.  I did this for several of my accounts and found that some accounts were not worth playing.  

 

The match maker in this game needs a major overhaul, and balancing the teams for skill level would go along way toward keeping people in the game, and bringing back some of the players who have quit in frustration.

 

 

This post reminds me of those holiday inn express commercials.  "Are you a statistician with tens of thousands of games and data?" , "No but I stayed in a holiday inn express last night *tips tin foil fedora*'

dunniteowl #14 Posted Nov 07 2018 - 18:17

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View PostephBomb, on Nov 07 2018 - 10:24, said:

Tired of the same MM, problem, I can't get anywhere. Tired of the one sided matches, I can't get away from these horrendous teams. You guys cater to the wrong players. You can't shake all the beatdowns, when their at every tier.

There are just to many Elite and Entitled players versus average players. Your losing us....

Now you want to sell us insurance for the prem time we buy? wth?

 

 

 

There's a reason you can't get away from these horrendous teams.  You are actually pulling down the potential chances of victory for every team you are placed into each match.  This means that if there are any players at or near your WR/Skill Ability on your team, those chances just took an even sharper drop.

 

This is a true thing.  I highly recommend you read The WoT Welcome Package I put together, based on what I used to take me from a steady 48% player to a now fairly steady 54% player.  I strive to do better, though I am probably at my max skill ability.  I'm not sure until I can get a real computer and a real connection that would allow me to know for sure where MY limits are and not my technology limits are.

 

There are plenty of reasons some folks cannot perform to the average or slightly above average level.  The truth is that Human Average in academics and work place performance are pretty low bars, because we really don't require that much to get by.  In this game, though, this 'low bar' places you into a category of Below Average in game performance.  The difference of only two or three percentage points can make a world of difference in outcomes overall.

 

I encourage you to take a look at that linked page, read it and take time to read the links within that Package.  They are well worth, IMO, ANYONE'S time if they would like to improve their performance and/or success rate in the game.  Everything in there provided I use myself.

 

MM

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None of those are under your control.  You can only control YOU and what you do with your choices.  That's it.  So use the material I offer to provide you with the key elements you must Comprehend and Use to effect a change that WILL move you to a more successful set of outcomes.  None of that other stuff is going to change.

 

 

GL, HF & HSYBF!

 

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View PostMacDaddyMatty, on Nov 07 2018 - 10:54, said:

“Everyone gets the same crap teams...

What separates good players from bad ones is how you deal with it.“ - Spartan_Striker

 

Some get more than others...

 

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View PostBackfire_, on Nov 07 2018 - 09:09, said:

 

This post reminds me of those holiday inn express commercials.  "Are you a statistician with tens of thousands of games and data?" , "No but I stayed in a holiday inn express last night *tips tin foil fedora*'

 

OMFG you got me at "tips tin foil fedora"!:D

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View PostGeorgePreddy, on Nov 07 2018 - 11:07, said:

 

To claim that players who have put in the work to become good are "elite" is legit... but to call them "entitled" is opposite of the truth.

 

An "entitled" player is one who does not put in the work (or have the talent) to become elite, yet feels that he deserves to get, for free and with no effort, all the good stuff that good players earn.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well said sir...

The_IS7_Specialist #18 Posted Nov 07 2018 - 19:30

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Maybe if you tried being a better player and contributing towards your team you'd win more.... Just because a team has "OP" players dont mean anything... Bring your own skill lvl up to be a good player instead of complaining and blaming... 

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View PostephBomb, on Nov 07 2018 - 11:24, said:

Tired of the same MM, problem, I can't get anywhere. Tired of the one sided matches, I can't get away from these horrendous teams. You guys cater to the wrong players. You can't shake all the beatdowns, when their at every tier.

There are just to many Elite and Entitled players versus average players. Your losing us....

Now you want to sell us insurance for the prem time we buy? wth?

 

 

 

OP like me you're a terrible player. Stop blaming other people and mm for you being a bad player. Hell I have had a stroke and seem to preform better than you. I don't know your history, but stop blaming everyone else.

BigDollarBillz #20 Posted Nov 07 2018 - 20:03

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View Post_Jelly_Tank_, on Nov 07 2018 - 12:02, said:

 

Some accounts appear to get better match making than other accounts.  There is some glitch in the match maker algorithm that can leave an account on the bad side of the match maker far more often than it should.  The opposite occurs for some players whose account seems to be on the overpowered team more often.  I have quite a few accounts and it was a revelation to me to find that some of them get very good match making consistently, and other accounts get no beneficial match making, and some accounts very poor match making.  My play style does not change and I played the same tanks across each of the accounts but the match maker treated each of the accounts differently.

 

I also noticed that some players have very high win percentages but incredibly poor win8 numbers.  These players were obviously being carried by their teams and a match maker system that was placing them on OP teams often.

 

Most people would not notice the problem and think that the problem is that they are not good enough or skilled enough.  In some cases this is true, however the problem is that the MM is just badly designed and is inadvertently placing you on teams where you will not win or do well.

 

If you feel the match maker is treating you unfairly keep a record of your game play.  Install the XVM mod.  Keep track of the XVM chance to win, your tier level in the match, and whether you won or lost.  After you have played several thousand battles analyze the data to see if there are any trends or indications that the MM is treating you unfairly.  I did this for several of my accounts and found that some accounts were not worth playing.  

 

The match maker in this game needs a major overhaul, and balancing the teams for skill level would go along way toward keeping people in the game, and bringing back some of the players who have quit in frustration.

 

 

Can you show your data on all of your other accounts, to prove what you're claiming is true?




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