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FrozenKemp #21 Posted Nov 08 2018 - 19:27

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If you're trading shots with your Maus and one of the newer heavies and they are penetrating you each time you fire, then you are probably playing the Maus wrong.

Vampiresbane #22 Posted Nov 08 2018 - 19:34

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Maus does not need a buff.

 

 

 

FrozenKemp, on Nov 08 2018 - 18:27, said:

If you're trading shots with your Maus and one of the newer heavies and they are penetrating you each time you fire, then you are probably playing the Maus wrong.


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View PostFrozenKemp, on Nov 08 2018 - 19:27, said:

If you're trading shots with your Maus and one of the newer heavies and they are penetrating you each time you fire, then you are probably playing the Maus wrong.

 

View PostVampiresbane, on Nov 08 2018 - 19:34, said:

Maus does not need a buff.

 

 

 

FrozenKemp, on Nov 08 2018 - 18:27, said:

 

the answer is already given...

 

What i noticed from the QuickyB vid is that in Mar 2017 it had a 56%win rate.. Now 

 

Data based on Tank Statistics

 

average.png Battle Time 5.76 min
average.png Experience 446.5
average.png WN8 Efficiency 1,505.8
average.png Survived 41.9%
average.png Winrate 50.3%
average.png Mileage (meters) 1,117.9
average.png Credits Income (Gross) 27,142.9 Cr
average.png Credits Income (Net) -31,046.5 Cr
average.png Credits per Minute (Gross) 6,350.4 Cr
average.png Credits per Minute (Net) -5,571.1 Cr
average.png Accuracy 79.8%
average.png Damage ratio 86.2%
average.png Damage dealt 1,926.7
average.png Damage assisted 622.1
average.png Damage received 2,469.2
average.png Damage per Kill 2,053.2
average.png Kills per Battle 0.9
average.png Damage per Hit 280.0
average.png Spotted 0.9


The_IS7_Specialist #24 Posted Nov 08 2018 - 20:04

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Maus is fine where it is at.. Good armor (If used right) and a decent gun... I admit most German tanks need to be worked on but the Maus is not one...

The_IS7_Specialist #25 Posted Nov 08 2018 - 20:05

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View PostSon__Of__Anarchy, on Nov 08 2018 - 13:39, said:

 

 

the answer is already given...

 

What i noticed from the QuickyB vid is that in Mar 2017 it had a 56%win rate.. Now 

 

Data based on Tank Statistics

 

average.png Battle Time 5.76 min
average.png Experience 446.5
average.png WN8 Efficiency 1,505.8
average.png Survived 41.9%
average.png Winrate 50.3%
average.png Mileage (meters) 1,117.9
average.png Credits Income (Gross) 27,142.9 Cr
average.png Credits Income (Net) -31,046.5 Cr
average.png Credits per Minute (Gross) 6,350.4 Cr
average.png Credits per Minute (Net) -5,571.1 Cr
average.png Accuracy 79.8%
average.png Damage ratio 86.2%
average.png Damage dealt 1,926.7
average.png Damage assisted 622.1
average.png Damage received 2,469.2
average.png Damage per Kill 2,053.2
average.png Kills per Battle 0.9
average.png Damage per Hit 280.0
average.png Spotted 0.9

 

Do you not realize that a year ago the Maus was beyond OP?

churchill50 #26 Posted Nov 08 2018 - 20:38

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View PostSon__Of__Anarchy, on Nov 08 2018 - 11:39, said:

 

 

the answer is already given...

 

What i noticed from the QuickyB vid is that in Mar 2017 it had a 56%win rate.. Now 

 

Data based on Tank Statistics

 

average.png Battle Time 5.76 min
average.png Experience 446.5
average.png WN8 Efficiency 1,505.8
average.png Survived 41.9%
average.png Winrate 50.3%
average.png Mileage (meters) 1,117.9
average.png Credits Income (Gross) 27,142.9 Cr
average.png Credits Income (Net) -31,046.5 Cr
average.png Credits per Minute (Gross) 6,350.4 Cr
average.png Credits per Minute (Net) -5,571.1 Cr
average.png Accuracy 79.8%
average.png Damage ratio 86.2%
average.png Damage dealt 1,926.7
average.png Damage assisted 622.1
average.png Damage received 2,469.2
average.png Damage per Kill 2,053.2
average.png Kills per Battle 0.9
average.png Damage per Hit 280.0
average.png Spotted 0.9

 

So, you're using the fact that the Maus has an average winrate to prove that the Maus is underpowered? You might want to take a look at your logic again.

In terms of balance, any tank with a winrate between 49.5% and 50.5% is really well balanced. The Maus falls in that range.

And that 56% winrate was retarded. That was right after its megabuff. The only other tanks at tier 10 that I know of that have ever pulled that winrate are the post HD-remodel T110E5 and first release Object 268v4. You know what all of those tanks had in common? They were all game-breakingly OP.


Edited by churchill50, Nov 08 2018 - 20:38.


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View Postchurchill50, on Nov 08 2018 - 14:38, said:

 

So, you're using the fact that the Maus has an average winrate to prove that the Maus is underpowered? You might want to take a look at your logic again.

In terms of balance, any tank with a winrate between 49.5% and 50.5% is really well balanced. The Maus falls in that range.

And that 56% winrate was retarded. That was right after its megabuff. The only other tanks at tier 10 that I know of that have ever pulled that winrate are the post HD-remodel T110E5 and first release Object 268v4. You know what all of those tanks had in common? They were all game-breakingly OP.

 

Well said.. +1

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View PostThe_IS7_Specialist, on Nov 08 2018 - 20:04, said:

Maus is fine where it is at.. Good armor (If used right) and a decent gun... I admit most German tanks need to be worked on but the Maus is not one...

 

View PostThe_IS7_Specialist, on Nov 08 2018 - 20:05, said:

 

Do you not realize that a year ago the Maus was beyond OP?

 

View Postchurchill50, on Nov 08 2018 - 20:38, said:

 

So, you're using the fact that the Maus has an average winrate to prove that the Maus is underpowered? You might want to take a look at your logic again.

In terms of balance, any tank with a winrate between 49.5% and 50.5% is really well balanced. The Maus falls in that range.

And that 56% winrate was retarded. That was right after its megabuff. The only other tanks at tier 10 that I know of that have ever pulled that winrate are the post HD-remodel T110E5 and first release Object 268v4. You know what all of those tanks had in common? They were all game-breakingly OP.

 

View PostThe_IS7_Specialist, on Nov 08 2018 - 20:44, said:

 

Well said.. +1

 

you know what is funny? that ALL the comments coming about how "fine" the Maus is, comming from dudes that dont really play the Maus.. 

you all just making me laugh.. please keep going, i ALWAYS fond a good laughing time!


Edited by Son__Of__Anarchy, Nov 08 2018 - 21:27.


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View PostSon__Of__Anarchy, on Nov 08 2018 - 13:19, said:

 

 

 

 

you know what is funny? that ALL the comments coming about how "fine" the Maus is, comming from dudes that dont really play the mouse.. 

you all just making me laugh.. please keep going, i ALWAYS fond a good laughing time!

 

Well, if we're going to descend to arguments as retarded as that, I'll respond in kind.

Let's take a look at your account, shall we?

 

You currently have played in 25 tier 10s. So, lets rank those tier 10s by DPG and winrate, two of the most important measures of skill.

By winrate, the Maus is your 5th best tank (ahead of 20 others).

By DPG, the Maus is your 12th best tank (ahead of 13 others).

It looks like, by your play, the Maus is rather balanced according to DPG, and slightly overpowered according to winrate. What was your point again?

 

And there's a reason I don't own a Maus (or, several reasons, actually). The most important reason though, is that I've played it enough on other accounts to know that it's boring and easy af to play. It's not overpowered, it's not underpowered. It's fairly well balanced. But it's boring and takes hardly any skill.

 

If you had just come on the forums asking for pointers for how to play the Maus, I would've been happy to give them. But no, you had to come on here and blame the tank for your own failings. No wonder you're plateaued where you are. Learn to look for your own shortcomings, not the shortcomings (real or imagined) of the tank, and you might just get better at this game.

 

EDIT: Also, as far as making people laugh, you sure are making me laugh.

You're the one who originally supported the person who posted the Maus's global winrate, until I pointed out that that argument was retarded. At which point you choose to ignore all my points and respond with the post I've just quoted. That's pretty funny.

And to add to the hilarity, you can't even spell Maus consistently, despite liking it enough to make this entire thread about it.


Edited by churchill50, Nov 08 2018 - 21:37.


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View Postchurchill50, on Nov 08 2018 - 21:32, said:

 

Well, if we're going to descend to arguments as retarded as that, I'll respond in kind.

Let's take a look at your account, shall we?

 

You currently have played in 25 tier 10s. So, lets rank those tier 10s by DPG and winrate, two of the most important measures of skill.

By winrate, the Maus is your 5th best tank (ahead of 20 others).

By DPG, the Maus is your 12th best tank (ahead of 13 others).

It looks like, by your play, the Maus is rather balanced according to DPG, and slightly overpowered according to winrate. What was your point again?

 

And there's a reason I don't own a Maus (or, several reasons, actually). The most important reason though, is that I've played it enough on other accounts to know that it's boring and easy af to play. It's not overpowered, it's not underpowered. It's fairly well balanced. But it's boring and takes hardly any skill.

 

If you had just come on the forums asking for pointers for how to play the Maus, I would've been happy to give them. But no, you had to come on here and blame the tank for your own failings. No wonder you're plateaued where you are. Learn to look for your own shortcomings, not the shortcomings (real or imagined) of the tank, and you might just get better at this game.

 

you know what i hate more than a "smart .ss"??

a "smart .ss" with so many proofs like yourself..

so please, next time you decide to make some effort to show us what a "smart .ss" YOU are, take the time to read and understand the whole situation..

 

i did NOT complain, did NOT whine, and did NOT ask for help or advise on how to play a Maus..

i do NOT play the Maus unless i take it out for a mission.. 

how good or bad i do with my Maus, depending on many things such as the map, my team, and the current mission i am running..

i do NOT take the Maus out for fun because it is NOT fun to play.. and the reasons is DEFINITELLY not because its such a good tank and so easy to play..

 

now, as for the "i played it enough on friend's account" for me is just blah blah blah.. go buy your OWN Maus, play it enough and ONLY then come to show us off how smart you are..

i may drove a ferrari of my neighboughr's a couple of times or 3.. does NOT give me the right to have ANY opinion on the matter of Ferraries but JUST a VERY poor impression.. good evening!



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View PostSon__Of__Anarchy, on Nov 08 2018 - 13:43, said:

 

you know what i hate more than a "smart .ss"??

a "smart .ss" with so many proofs like yourself..

so please, next time you decide to make some effort to show us what a "smart .ss" YOU are, take the time to read and understand the whole situation..

 

i did NOT complain, did NOT whine, and did NOT ask for help or advise on how to play a Maus..

i do NOT play the Maus unless i take it out for a mission.. 

how good or bad i do with my Maus, depending on many things such as the map, my team, and the current mission i am running..

i do NOT take the Maus out for fun because it is NOT fun to play.. and the reasons is DEFINITELLY not because its such a good tank and so easy to play..

 

now, as for the "i played it enough on friend's account" for me is just blah blah blah.. go buy your OWN Maus, play it enough and ONLY then come to show us off how smart you are..

i may drove a ferrari of my neighboughr's a couple of times or 3.. does NOT give me the right to have ANY opinion on the matter of Ferraries but JUST a VERY poor impression.. good evening!

 

What was it I said about adding to the hilarity?

Your last two posts have only shown that you've lost the argument but are a sore loser.



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View Postchurchill50, on Nov 08 2018 - 21:44, said:

 

What was it I said about adding to the hilarity?

Your last two posts have only shown that you've lost the argument but are a sore loser.

 

l.m.a.o

Edited by Son__Of__Anarchy, Nov 08 2018 - 21:49.





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