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frontflip2cool #21 Posted Nov 08 2018 - 22:50

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View PostThe1Minus5, on Nov 08 2018 - 20:24, said:

Which should i buy? Got a small bonus for helping a friend, patriot or t34 is the one to buy? ive looked at both but cant decide.  I can fit either style, but the credit potiential of the patriot is leading the purchase.

I have both and love them equally.

The T34 has one of the toughest turrets in the game espically when you get it hull down on a ridge line. It has plenty of standard pen and the highest standard ammo pen of all premium tier 8 heavies. It also has the highest premium ammo pen of all tier 8 heavies overall. Drawbacks are slow RoF, not great mobility until you get a good crew in it (I have a working on 4th perk T29 crew I use in it), mediocre gun handling. But it makes up for it in Alpha damage and pen.

The T26E5 you can play like a Medium if you choose to when top, middle, or even bottom tier. It has a great RoF, kinda low alpha for a tank called a heavy tank (it is more of a Medium with a weight and speed disorder) but it does have in its favor if you set it up right the ability to spot it's own targets with a skilled enough crew, vents, and either food or optics or both if you choose. Only draw backs are mediocre turret armor that won't bounce much if bottom tier, and the low alpha means you have to shoot more. But it does have insanely low shell cost on standard rounds and it doesn't have to fire many premium rounds unless facing a Maus or something like that.

So it is up to you based on the info of my own experiences since I own both of them. And it is also personal preference as well of which one you want.



BaconMeLoveIt #22 Posted Nov 08 2018 - 23:37

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Have both. It all boils down to personal preference.

 

I do like the T34 better than the Patriot.

 

For the T34, I need fully aim before shooting since it has a long reload that every shots fired needs to count.

For the Patriot, I just shoot away, just like the American mediums.

 

At least for me, the T34 instills discipline since all of the shots fired must count.



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View PostBaconMeLoveIt, on Nov 08 2018 - 23:37, said:

Have both. It all boils down to personal preference.

 

I do like the T34 better than the Patriot.

 

For the T34, I need fully aim before shooting since it has a long reload that every shots fired needs to count.

For the Patriot, I just shoot away, just like the American mediums.

 

At least for me, the T34 instills discipline since all of the shots fired must count.

I agree on ever shot from the T34 needing to count because of the low ammo capacity(although better than the IS-3 and some if not all Russian heavy tanks at tier 8) And the Patriot which I have is a fire away and keep shooting until victory or death.



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View PostDomoSapien, on Nov 08 2018 - 20:48, said:

Depends what you're looking for, the T34 is a beast in Frontlines as it makes short work of Defender and T32 upper plate - T26E5 is a more reliable all-arounder.

 

Much better gun handling and armor profile, better at pushing than the T34 which is very strictly a support vehicle due to the poor gun handling and squishy hull armor.


You'll probably get more mileage out of the T26E5 all-around.

 

The Defender upper front plate is hard to pen with any same tier tank and even for tier 9's.  I paid real money for an IS-3A which is now the worst tier 8 premium right next to the AMX/CDC which I also bought and can't play because they are both pure garbage.  WG will never buff them because they want you to buy the new premiums which I refuse to do.

 

The Defender is the most PAY TO WIN tank EVER introduced in this game just like the Skorpian and along with the type 59, Lorraine, T25E5, Mod 1, Progetto, 7/1, Black Dog, ELC, and LOWE are all by far the best tanks at tier 8.  There isn't a single tier 8 tech tree tank that is better than any of those premiums.   My team recently won the 3v3 tier 8 tourney and we ran two 25E5's and one 7/1 since they are the best tanks at tier 8, by far.  

 

Can you say, PAY TO WIN? 

 

The T34 is GARBAGE.  It's slow, has weak armor, poor turret and track traverse and poor DPM.  The only thing it has is high pen and decent alpha which means it should be a TD, not a Heavy.  It should have been buffed with the LOWE, but now is just pure garbage.  Buy the T26E5.  It is better than the T32 in every single way.  It has better armor, a better gun and better mobility. 

 

The T32 is GARBAGE and the T34 is GARBAGE when compared to the T26E5 because it is the new premium tank WG wants you to pay money to play. 
 

 

 


Edited by RECON_RANGER, Nov 09 2018 - 00:18.


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View Post_Red_Saaryn_, on Nov 08 2018 - 15:17, said:

T34 is basically a t30 in tier 8 i preffer the pen/alpha it has and the turret armor is also good. Between lowe and t34 t34 wins, now beteen t34 and the patriot. T3r wims due to pen

 

t34 is terrible compared to the lowe or patriot.  If you compare it to the patriot at least you can say different playstyles as a reason for personally liking the t34 more.  But the lowe has better mobility, better accuracy, better armor(including turret because the t34 roof is terrible).  The only advantage t34 has is alpha and a tiny pen advantage.
 

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View PostDomoSapien, on Nov 08 2018 - 14:48, said:

Depends what you're looking for, the T34 is a beast in Frontlines as it makes short work of Defender and T32 upper plate - T26E5 is a more reliable all-arounder.

 

Much better gun handling and armor profile, better at pushing than the T34 which is very strictly a support vehicle due to the poor gun handling and squishy hull armor.


You'll probably get more mileage out of the T26E5 all-around.

 

Someone is hoping for a bonus.. I give credit in that your pitch for the terrible t34 was balanced out by basically saying yeah it sucks. :trollface:

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the only value of the T34 is that the gun works just fine against tier 10 tanks, and that the mantlet is strong enough that you will occasionally bounce tier 10 tanks. 

however, neither of those strengths replace it long list of weaknesses... they just add some bright points to an otherwise laundry list of failure. 



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View PostHurk, on Nov 08 2018 - 18:08, said:

the only value of the T34 is that the gun works just fine against tier 10 tanks, and that the mantlet is strong enough that you will occasionally bounce tier 10 tanks. 

however, neither of those strengths replace it long list of weaknesses... they just add some bright points to an otherwise laundry list of failure. 

The gun doesn't work all that fine against T10s due to the horribad handling, imo.



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    I have nearly 3,400 battles with the T34, and I think the T34 is a better tank than the T26E5. What it ultimately comes down to is the gun. The T26E5 just does not have the fire power. It will deal with all the low, and equal tier stuff fine. The big stuff is where the problems are. The 90mm gun on the T26E5 has 240 alpha, and 260mm of pen (the premium pen) is a joke when facing tier X. It also, will fail to over match practically everything, since it is only 90mm (this is critical against some tanks).

 

      The T34 on the other hand is running a 120mm gun with 249 pen (standard AP) with 297 (APCR) with 400 alpha damage. It can deal with practically everything, even tier X. It's not perfect against tier IX, and X, mind you, but it can at least defend itself, unlike the T26E5. The T34 does shoot slow, and the aim time isn't great, but it's a peak, and boom strategy with both tanks. Standing out in the open for anything longer than one shot is a very quick way to get destroyed, even hull down.

 

    Lastly, all of the attributes that make the T26E5 "better" than the T34 really aren't good enough to truly put it ahead of the T34. The hull armor of the T26E5 is not thick enough, nor sloped enough. Tier VIII and above will punch through it no problem. It is better to keep it hidden. The turret armor is arguably stronger than the T34, but has weak spots just like the T34, so it levels out. The only thing it really has over the T34 is mobility, and ROF, but, as I said above it's a peak, and boom.

 

     Overall, the T26E5 isn't a bad tank, but a better choice than the T34? I don't think T26E5 is better. I tried the T26E5 as a rental (back when I had 3,000 battles with the T34), and the gun is a serious problem on the T26E5. It really needs something bigger, just like it's tier VIII cousin the T32. The T34's weaknesses can be worked around with proper play, but low penetration? Not much you can do, not with this tank anyway.

 

View PostRC_1140, on Nov 08 2018 - 12:32, said:

 

A lot of people simply don't know how to play this tank. It's interesting. Tomatoes can't master it, and unicums get frustrated out of it, because it doesn't perform to their expectations. It's a niche tank.

 



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niche is a nice way of saying [edited]e. 

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View PostGeneral_Greg101, on Nov 08 2018 - 20:16, said:

    I have nearly 3,400 battles with the T34, and I think the T34 is a better tank than the T26E5. What it ultimately comes down to is the gun. The T26E5 just does not have the fire power. It will deal with all the low, and equal tier stuff fine. The big stuff is where the problems are. The 90mm gun on the T26E5 has 240 alpha, and 260mm of pen (the premium pen) is a joke when facing tier X. It also, will fail to over match practically everything, since it is only 90mm (this is critical against some tanks).

 

      The T34 on the other hand is running a 120mm gun with 249 pen (standard AP) with 297 (APCR) with 400 alpha damage. It can deal with practically everything, even tier X. It's not perfect against tier IX, and X, mind you, but it can at least defend itself, unlike the T26E5. The T34 does shoot slow, and the aim time isn't great, but it's a peak, and boom strategy with both tanks. Standing out in the open for anything longer than one shot is a very quick way to get destroyed, even hull down.

 

    Lastly, all of the attributes that make the T26E5 "better" than the T34 really aren't good enough to truly put it ahead of the T34. The hull armor of the T26E5 is not thick enough, nor sloped enough. Tier VIII and above will punch through it no problem. It is better to keep it hidden. The turret armor is arguably stronger than the T34, but has weak spots just like the T34, so it levels out. The only thing it really has over the T34 is mobility, and ROF, but, as I said above it's a peak, and boom.

 

     Overall, the T26E5 isn't a bad tank, but a better choice than the T34? I don't think T26E5 is better. I tried the T26E5 as a rental (back when I had 3,000 battles with the T34), and the gun is a serious problem on the T26E5. It really needs something bigger, just like it's tier VIII cousin the T32. The T34's weaknesses can be worked around with proper play, but low penetration? Not much you can do, not with this tank anyway.

 

 

A lot of people simply don't know how to play this tank. It's interesting. Tomatoes can't master it, and unicums get frustrated out of it, because it doesn't perform to their expectations. It's a niche tank.

 

 

low pen?? while it doesn't have t34 levels of pen, it still has very solid penetration

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the T26 is a fat medium

 

the T34 is a turreted TD that misplaced its gun handling.



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View Postcommander42, on Nov 08 2018 - 22:04, said:

 

low pen?? while it doesn't have t34 levels of pen, it still has very solid penetration

 

Low pen vs tier 10 and some tier 9. Even the gold ammo isn't enough to pen a few of the super heavies and due to normalization both the credit and gold apcr is less effective vs angled armour. The e5 is more a akin to a medium than a heavy and is better suited to flanking heavies and bullying mediums and lights.

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View PostDomoSapien, on Nov 08 2018 - 14:48, said:

Depends what you're looking for, the T34 is a beast in Frontlines as it makes short work of Defender and T32 upper plate - T26E5 is a more reliable all-arounder.

 

Much better gun handling and armor profile, better at pushing than the T34 which is very strictly a support vehicle due to the poor gun handling and squishy hull armor.


You'll probably get more mileage out of the T26E5 all-around.

 

:facepalm:

T34 could make short work of the T32 and the Defender if it could hit the broad side of a barn with said barn 50m away.

As it stands, the T34 is basically just throwing your money in a fire.



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View Post_Tsavo_, on Nov 08 2018 - 14:27, said:

T26E5, it's got mobility, good pen, strong turret, and a great rate of fire.   The T34 is powercrept and needs attention. 

 

​This ^^

 

 



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I have both and both have their advantages and disadvantages.

What it comes down to is play style. Do you want to brawl or not?

The T26E5 can brawl...unless it's bottom tier. Don't ever go it alone vs.Tier X tanks. Go in with another tank (preferably with a Tier IX or X) and while he's face hugging , get to the sides and rear of the enemy. Like with any other tank that's bottom tier, you play the support role. 

T34 is...eh ok. You have to play it like it's little brother, the T29: Hull down at medium range (though you can be at longer range with a T29. It has better handling). Do not brawl with a T34 unless you are top tier and not alone. The reload is too long. If you brawl, go in with somebody else. Even at top tier, the T34 is vulnerable. You cut you chances at being shot at when brawling with another tank or two on your side.

 

EDIT: I have the T34B, which I got for free from a marathon at this time last year (same tank, just black pant job). I bought the T26E5, not the Patriot version. Paint job was too gaudy IMO.


Edited by Blackstone, Nov 09 2018 - 14:07.


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View PostHurk, on Nov 08 2018 - 18:50, said:

niche is a nice way of saying [edited]e. 

 

This tank may be an exception. It has a ridiculous amount of people playing it despite everyone bashing it. VBaddict puts it at positon 31 for battles played out of however many tanks are in the game. That's not bad. Okay, maybe it's all for credit farming, but I think if it was as bad as people say it is, no one would be playing it.

 

View PostTheManFromKekistan, on Nov 09 2018 - 04:00, said:

 

Low pen vs tier 10 and some tier 9. Even the gold ammo isn't enough to pen a few of the super heavies and due to normalization both the credit and gold apcr is less effective vs angled armour. The e5 is more a akin to a medium than a heavy and is better suited to flanking heavies and bullying mediums and lights.

 

     This. The T26E5 has no chance against something like the Type 5. The weak spots are 250mm, and 260mm. The max pen for the T26E5 is only 259mm with APCR. Even the hatch is effectively 250+ unless your on higher ground. Even if it does pen (by some miracle) it's only 240 with a low roll 200... It has no stopping power. It's the same case with the E100, and the Maus. Unless you get the lower plate un-angled; your history. The ability to fight these monster is not something to be overlooked when shopping for a premium tank.

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t26e5 is cheaper too. T34 is only worth if you buy it discounted with gold since you don't have to pay for gold.

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Would you trade-in T34 for T26E5 (if you could)? It's the only T8 I have 50+% win rate and I quite enjoy the tank. It's so slow I can't get myself into trouble too fast.

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View PostPlayer127, on Nov 09 2018 - 19:36, said:

Would you trade-in T34 for T26E5 (if you could)? It's the only T8 I have 50+% win rate and I quite enjoy the tank. It's so slow I can't get myself into trouble too fast.

two vastly different tanks. i can see someone not liking the t34 play style and switching. 






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