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Gman110 #1 Posted Nov 11 2018 - 01:11

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The m4 improved need an amor buff, it is well angled but has almost 0 ability to block any shots. It's supposed to be able to block some shots, but my experience is almost all of them go right thru. Curious what the rest of you think? For me it's just not working out. I've been playing this tank for over a year but it always seems to get penned.

BabA_YA6A #2 Posted Nov 11 2018 - 01:18

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View PostGman110, on Nov 11 2018 - 08:11, said:

The m4 improved need an amor buff, it is well angled but has almost 0 ability to block any shots. It's supposed to be able to block some shots, but my experience is almost all of them go right thru. Curious what the rest of you think? For me it's just not working out. I've been playing this tank for over a year but it always seems to get penned.

Its a medium tank for crying out loud. It works well for flanking or even scouting since it fairly mobil.

What it really needs is a penetration  buff!!!

 



US_3rd_Army #3 Posted Nov 11 2018 - 01:25

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I agree with BabA_YA6A. What the M4 'Unimproved' needs is buff in pen. It's either that or they give it premium MM (They done this before with the Stug IV, it now has premium MM, but it didn't when it first came out).

I_QQ_4_U #4 Posted Nov 11 2018 - 01:28

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It needs work on the gun, not armour.

Blucraft #5 Posted Nov 11 2018 - 01:33

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I'ts a great scouting medium, more armor would probably affect mobility.  I'd vote for more pen...but they'd probably jack the ROF to keep it from being OP :sceptic:.

 

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BigNaturals #6 Posted Nov 11 2018 - 01:35

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Its a great lil tank, its amedium not supose to have tons of armour



BabA_YA6A #7 Posted Nov 11 2018 - 01:44

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View PostBigNaturals, on Nov 11 2018 - 08:35, said:

Its a great lil tank, its amedium not supose to have tons of armour

 

That one is easy to three mark.

Because nobody plays that clunker because of the sorry pen.

Besides the point being in bottom tier about 80%  of the time were you can't pen more than half the stuff you run into.



Shortcult #8 Posted Nov 11 2018 - 01:47

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Well done Bigguns.  I still vote for more pen.

omi5cron #9 Posted Nov 11 2018 - 02:52

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gun buff gets my vote! even at its intro,i had a great time in it...not so much these days!

always had a tough time with that gun. as i understand it,WG had originally plannede this tank as a pref MM tank. however,they stopped putting out new pref MM tanks AND decided to release this as a reg MM tank...with NO changes! thanks a whole ffing bunch WG!

 

please buff gun to regular tier 5 parameters...i mean you are buffing pref MM tanks,how about that ONE tank that got caught in the middle???



Dirizon #10 Posted Nov 11 2018 - 03:11

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lt would make sense to give it 63mm upper glacis, being an up-armoured Sherman

lt could definitely use Excelsior rate of fire, as well

T14 needs that buff, increasing glacis to 63mm



Omega_Weapon #11 Posted Nov 11 2018 - 04:22

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Better gun handling, improved ammo types (for more pen) and possibly a bit more view range. Everything else is workable.

heavymetal1967 #12 Posted Nov 11 2018 - 04:28

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First I bought it knowing it had the M3 Lee gun with worse RoF and worse dispersion than the Lee.  Even the prem pen blows vs. some of what if faces.  But I bought it knowing that, so I'm not complaining nor expecting changes.

 

But per the others, what it needs is a pen/gun buff.  Or preferred MM.  Iirc it came out when they were still thinking they were removing or at least curtailing preferential MM tanks.  Maybe the first prem released following that train of thought.  Personally I'd rather see a gun buff than preferred MM. 



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View PostOmega_Weapon, on Nov 10 2018 - 22:22, said:

Better gun handling, improved ammo types (for more pen) and possibly a bit more view range. Everything else is workable.

 

 A bit more view range would be nice since iirc it's the same as the M4 currently.  Especially if they don't buff the gun up close to the M4 levels as it's strength is (and would still be) it's mobility and scouting - at least imo. 

 

And good point by Blu re: more armor slowing it down.



Colonel_Lonewolf #14 Posted Nov 11 2018 - 05:24

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This tank needs all kinds of help.

haxmachine21 #15 Posted Nov 11 2018 - 08:59

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View PostGman110, on Nov 10 2018 - 18:11, said:

The m4 improved need an amor buff, it is well angled but has almost 0 ability to block any shots. It's supposed to be able to block some shots, but my experience is almost all of them go right thru. Curious what the rest of you think? For me it's just not working out. I've been playing this tank for over a year but it always seems to get penned.

 

I actually play the M4 Improved quite a bit. 3-Marked it a long time ago, put digital-camo on it, and I troll people with it. The armor does work for me sometimes....but what makes it valuable is the mobility. Not the armor. But I do agree with some of the above posts....the gun needs severe help.


 

Nowadays, it is rare to see an M4 Improved in battle.....


Edited by haxmachine21, Nov 11 2018 - 09:00.


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     The armor is irrelevant, it's mobility is it's armor. It needs a pen buff in the worst way. If you're bottom tier late game and the tougher nuts on the enemy team haven't been cracked...well. It's premium shells aren't going to help, you're relegated to fodder.

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View PostGman110, on Nov 11 2018 - 01:11, said:

The m4 improved need an amor buff, it is well angled but has almost 0 ability to block any shots. It's supposed to be able to block some shots, but my experience is almost all of them go right thru. Curious what the rest of you think? For me it's just not working out. I've been playing this tank for over a year but it always seems to get penned.

 

I would say a turret buff, penetration buff, and shell velocity buff is probably the most you can hope for in best of circumstances.

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It needs the derp gun.

3nr0n #19 Posted Nov 12 2018 - 00:09

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Pen is not the problem with the 105, load all HE shoot, track em, damage modules, etc... 

 

Armor is a bit weak but that is the way it goes.



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View Post3nr0n, on Nov 12 2018 - 00:09, said:

Pen is not the problem with the 105, load all HE shoot, track em, damage modules, etc... 

 

Armor is a bit weak but that is the way it goes.

 

Except it doesn't have the 105.




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