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RagnarokBazil #41 Posted Mar 03 2019 - 03:37

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View PostAverageWannabe, on Nov 22 2018 - 19:34, said:

Hey there, friggin noob here...

 

I'm going to get this token that they give that allow me to get a free tier 6 tank, and I'm not sure which one to choose... 

 

I am grinding the russian heavies, currently am at the awful t28, but close to get the kv1 . I know the russian meds are good, but i think i want to grind that line from the beginning.

 

In the other account i had that I ditched (with around 600 battles), I was grinding the italian meds and I quite liked them, I had a tier V already, so maybe I should go with the italian t6... but there is also the german mediums, the .01p in particular, that ends in 4 tier X tanks. So it might be a good choice since the german tanks kind of suck a bit, specially the earlier tiers... as far as i know.

 

And then there is the Czech line that looks interesting as heck...

I don't know what to do. What do you guys think?

 

BTW... I LOVE the game, and I suck at it... i feel that I will NEVER learn, but I will NOT give up! ...despite the frustration.

 

Appreciate any pointers

 

Take care.

A.W

 

if you want credits and your free to play the m44 is your best bet. as it earns the most credits as a non prem tank.

 

P.S: just noticed the date lol


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All of you are nuts. Why wouldn't you get the M-44 or something equivalent so you can complete the missions without grinding the arty line???? Makes no sense to pick the previous tanks mentioned.

Gunn_Fyter #43 Posted Sep 30 2019 - 00:50

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What line do you plan on going up? If you plan on going up the British TD line, then get the Churchill Gun Carrier. It's 49k XP to grind to it from the Churchill I, and the highest XP sink of all tier 6 tanks. You'll be saving yourself a lot of aggravation trying to unlock it in the Churchill I if you get it for free with your token. It can be frustrating to play, but you can bypass the rest of the line up to that point and start working on the tier 7 right away. 

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View PostGunn_Fyter, on Sep 29 2019 - 16:50, said:

What line do you plan on going up? If you plan on going up the British TD line, then get the Churchill Gun Carrier. It's 49k XP to grind to it from the Churchill I, and the highest XP sink of all tier 6 tanks. You'll be saving yourself a lot of aggravation trying to unlock it in the Churchill I if you get it for free with your token. It can be frustrating to play, but you can bypass the rest of the line up to that point and start working on the tier 7 right away. 

With a really poor gun. Haven't played it, but I don't think the armour can save the pew pew gun.



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View PostGunn_Fyter, on Sep 30 2019 - 00:50, said:

What line do you plan on going up? If you plan on going up the British TD line, then get the Churchill Gun Carrier. It's 49k XP to grind to it from the Churchill I, and the highest XP sink of all tier 6 tanks. You'll be saving yourself a lot of aggravation trying to unlock it in the Churchill I if you get it for free with your token. It can be frustrating to play, but you can bypass the rest of the line up to that point and start working on the tier 7 right away. 


I wouldn't wish the Churchill GC on any new player.....

 

Even fully researched with the 32 pdr. it is a fairly difficult tank to play.... I won't say it is total, irredeemable garbage.... but certainly not a good tank to learn Tier 6 in regardless of what line you want to research.



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Rather than cause my topic covering the same problem of which tank to choose, I will just ask in here instead.  I still cannot decide on a tier 6.  It literally seems like I should throw a dart and where it lands is the tank I would get.  I still do not want spg.  I am not totally sold on anything American (yes shocking to say that as an American - but if the M1A1 shows up then I change my tune - but leave that debate for the future) except maybe the hellcat/wolverine TD's.  I have reach I think t5 maybe t6 on the one hvy line of tanks for US.  The brits I have gone down both Med line and found that one converts to horribly big and bigger profile td's (almost like they copied the KV series) the other seems weaker and weaker armor and gun.  Sweden, didn't like anything there (played during the promo period for Sweden).

 

I have mostly gone with German tanks only due to reputation.  I know they will be good to some and horrible to others.  I heard there is some bias in favor of Russian tanks and have used the T-34 85 or 100 L - the one from frontlines but I can't compare it to a t3/4/5 tank to know if it was the best.  I have tried the Kan 105 (TD German, T8 I think - from twitch) and liked and hated it with no turret.  The Centurion T8 also twitch on 14 day access, I loved the speed but once again I can't compare that to the t3/4/5 either.  The King Tiger © tier 7 if I am correct, I have had my good and bad in that (well actually that is true of anything I have been in so that just makes the choice even harder).  I know the tank won't make me better but I need something that at least doesn't make lackluster skills even worse (aka Sherman III).

 

So I am still out there looking pondering



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M1A1 will not happen. This game avoids modern smoothbore cannons and composite armor...

 

In general, do not go German tanks because of their reputation in this game. Some of this is that in reality the German tanks didn't quite live up to their repuation, and some of this how the German tanks are tiered in this game, and some of it is map and game design - and especially combat ranges - which generally are not favorable to German tanks.

 

While the discussion in this thread is a bit dated, in many ways it is still good. T-34-85 would be a very good choice - and M44 also has many good aspects.

 

The T-34-85 is a good flexible tier 6 medium tank that can teach you a lot about how to play medium tanks. And from it you can go up the Soviet Medium tank line - with many good tanks along the way, even if the cross over to the "fast heavy" lines by way of the KV-13 is has been moved to the A-43.

 

The M44 (US arty) is a very (and probably too) flexible and beginner friendly arty - and if you are going to play this game, you should learn at least a bit about what Arty does well - and what it does not, so that you are less of an obvious target in your other tanks. In addition, it is a fairly good silver earner.

 

A quick look at your stats suggests you have a bit you can still learn at mid-tiers - and both of these tanks can help with this in at least some areas.



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View Post1ST_AD_Abrams, on Oct 02 2019 - 12:31, said:

Rather than cause my topic covering the same problem of which tank to choose, I will just ask in here instead.  I still cannot decide on a tier 6.  It literally seems like I should throw a dart and where it lands is the tank I would get.  I still do not want spg.  I am not totally sold on anything American (yes shocking to say that as an American - but if the M1A1 shows up then I change my tune - but leave that debate for the future) except maybe the hellcat/wolverine TD's.  I have reach I think t5 maybe t6 on the one hvy line of tanks for US.  The brits I have gone down both Med line and found that one converts to horribly big and bigger profile td's (almost like they copied the KV series) the other seems weaker and weaker armor and gun.  Sweden, didn't like anything there (played during the promo period for Sweden).

 

I have mostly gone with German tanks only due to reputation.  I know they will be good to some and horrible to others.  I heard there is some bias in favor of Russian tanks and have used the T-34 85 or 100 L - the one from frontlines but I can't compare it to a t3/4/5 tank to know if it was the best.  I have tried the Kan 105 (TD German, T8 I think - from twitch) and liked and hated it with no turret.  The Centurion T8 also twitch on 14 day access, I loved the speed but once again I can't compare that to the t3/4/5 either.  The King Tiger © tier 7 if I am correct, I have had my good and bad in that (well actually that is true of anything I have been in so that just makes the choice even harder).  I know the tank won't make me better but I need something that at least doesn't make lackluster skills even worse (aka Sherman III).

 

So I am still out there looking pondering

T-34-85 all the way. Stock grind isn't horrible, competitive guns and armour if you use your brain, introduces you to mediums and trading all at once, good for Strongholds, and some fun as well. Don't fall into the Russian bias mentality. If you like a tank, play it. If other people like Russian tanks, well they do them. If they're better, well, nothing you can change about that. Wargaming makes its own decisions. 

 

For you, I might recommend the KV-85 as well. Apparently a solid heavy tank, and leads to very competitive lines.

http://forum.worldof...__fromsearch__1

Here. This might help if for some odd reason you really hate Russian tanks.

 



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Do consider the VK 30.01p. It's a decent tank, and with the top engine and 88 kwk, it makes a pretty good flanker. It leads to the Tiger P, which can be used to shift into all 3 of the German superheavy lines and the Jagdpanzer E 100 line. Alternatively, if you don't like the German vehicles, I would recommend getting the O-I. That thing is a beast, and with the token you can bypass all 3 of the awful tier II-IV Japanese tanks before it. Those 3 tanks are, in my opinion, some of the worst in the game. So save yourself a lowered player rating and a lot of pain if you want to go that route. 

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View Postel_01, on Oct 02 2019 - 22:46, said:

T-34-85 all the way. Stock grind isn't horrible, competitive guns and armour if you use your brain, introduces you to mediums and trading all at once, good for Strongholds, and some fun as well. Don't fall into the Russian bias mentality. If you like a tank, play it. If other people like Russian tanks, well they do them. If they're better, well, nothing you can change about that. Wargaming makes its own decisions. 

 

For you, I might recommend the KV-85 as well. Apparently a solid heavy tank, and leads to very competitive lines.

http://forum.worldof...__fromsearch__1

Here. This might help if for some odd reason you really hate Russian tanks.

 

Totally agree with you here. The T-34-85 is a fantastic vehicle to start off with since it is beautiful piece of art. The turret is much stronger than it seems, making the vehicle fantastic for hull-down brawling. Again like you mentioned, great stronghold pick and a great tank for learning the basics of the game. Also very competitive as it leads to one of the best (in my opinion) tier 10s in the game (Object 430U and Object 140). Same story with the KV-85 leading to the Object 277.



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View PostX_Lycanroc, on Jan 08 2020 - 18:31, said:

Totally agree with you here. The T-34-85 is a fantastic vehicle to start off with since it is beautiful piece of art. The turret is much stronger than it seems, making the vehicle fantastic for hull-down brawling. Again like you mentioned, great stronghold pick and a great tank for learning the basics of the game. Also very competitive as it leads to one of the best (in my opinion) tier 10s in the game (Object 430U and Object 140). Same story with the KV-85 leading to the Object 277.

Probably should put a PSA:

 

Even though mediums are supposed to have some armour, never count on it. When you do...

 

The turret of the T-34-85 is a bit difficult to use. The mantlet actually gets penned a fair bit by some same-tier tanks, since it's only 90mm in the absolute centre. So DON'T stay still while using a hull-down position, that's how you get promptly deleted. There's also a very Russian Bias cupola that's only 90mm and sticks up a LOT (I mean, better than American cupolas but still pretty huge).

 

The best case for using the turret is to expose only the sides, and maybe a bit of the frontal cheeks. Mostly the sides. Why? Well, the sides (if one goes in to tanks.gg), turn to very steep angles and 300mm effective. I think they're within autobounce too. The key is to expose only the sides, and wiggle to bait the enemy shot (drive back/forward to make them think they can pen your turret cheek, when in reality you only give them your turret side half the time). Also, the top/bottom of the mantlet are pretty troll as well if you wiggle your turret and tank, just keep in mind that shots may ricochet into the hull. Sidescraping isn't really advised but can work. Hull down is your best bet for bounces.

 

This is only applicable when ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY. Don't peek unless you need to. Your strengths are mobility, alpha, and decent DPM. Pretend you have no armour against anything higher than T5 and you will do far better than if you think you do. Just my 2 cents.

 

 






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