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Churchill 3 not penning VK .30.01H lower front plate


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EmperorOfFire #1 Posted Dec 11 2018 - 16:06

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Hey, i want to know how i failed to pen this VK 30.01H's lower plate. I can accept that the shot may have ended in a different spot to where i originally aimed at but as you can see on the replay even the pen indicator in the aim reticle was in red (meaning it's not going to pen), how can that be possible with a 110mm gun vs a 60mm plate?, i already checked with angling in tanks.gg but even then it says it should 100% go through, i don't see it. That also wasn't the only non pen on that tank that i think should have went through.

Here's the replay.

http://wotreplays.eu...e-churchill_iii

 

Thanks in advance.



NutrientibusMeaGallus #2 Posted Dec 11 2018 - 16:32

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If you hit at enough of an angle it will bounce it.....

JohnnyBlazin #3 Posted Dec 11 2018 - 16:36

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I believe at enough of an angle, armor has an "autobounce" feature in this game.

EmperorOfFire #4 Posted Dec 11 2018 - 16:36

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View PostNutrientibusMeaGallus, on Dec 11 2018 - 16:32, said:

If you hit at enough of an angle it will bounce it.....

 

Yeah i know that but i looked with the tool on tanks.gg and it showed it should of went in regardless of the angle, also it was not a bounce, it was a failed pen. But that maybe the case of why the pen indicator was red?, because the aimed spot would be an automatic bounce?

Desert_Fox_1969 #5 Posted Dec 11 2018 - 16:39

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View PostEmperorOfFire, on Dec 11 2018 - 10:36, said:

 

Yeah i know that but i looked with the tool on tanks.gg and it showed it should of went in regardless of the angle, also it was not a bounce, it was a failed pen. But that maybe the case of why the pen indicator was red?, because the aimed spot would be an automatic bounce?

 

Yep. Red = no pen. 

The lower plate is angled. Shoot flat surfaces especially on the VK. 



Devils_Scorpion #6 Posted Dec 11 2018 - 16:54

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Churchill III is a fun tank, fun to wolf pack in, when fighting the VK 30.01H I find it easier to pen the top corners of the turret, I usually get great pen off shooting there, front plate is hit and miss with such a small caliber gun. 

 

Of course I spam gold in that tank to maximize the rate of pen 



GeorgePreddy #7 Posted Dec 11 2018 - 17:39

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I ran the vid at 1/16th speed and this is what I saw:

 

You never once hit the LFP. Your pen indicator changed back and forth between amber and red many times.

 

Shot #;

 

1  Reticle was on front plate and indicator amber (target angled)... round hit track for no pen

 

2  Clean miss... well within reticle circle & with amber indicator

 

3  Hit viewport for zero dmg. (Crit hit dmg to viewport likely)

 

4  Hit viewport area AGAIN, zero dmg

 

5  This one is a bit odd... round made a mark on the upper edge of front plate and then continued & dug a furrow into a mark made at the M.G. port edge... not sure if pen or not

 

6  Hit top of track at the middle carrier "wheel", cracked the fender but no pen

 

7  Clean miss well within the reticle circle

 

8  Pen in side between the tracks

 

9  Tracked him

 

 

Hope this helps you understand and maybe learn to do this yourself to see what really happened.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



_1204_ #8 Posted Dec 11 2018 - 18:34

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As other have said, you were moving a lot and your recticle wasnt very stable. If you were sitting still fully aimed where you were intending to hit, a lot more probably would have gone through

 






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