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Klaatu_Nicto #1 Posted Dec 17 2018 - 06:59

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I just learned something interesting. The movie 2012 was not based on Charles Hapgood's theory of crustal displacement.  It was based on this.

 

Declassified in Part - Sanitized Copy Approved for Release - CIA-RDP79B00752A000300070001-8

 

It's not like any earthquake in recorded history.

 

In many places the earth's molten sub-layer breaks through and spreads a sea of white-hot fire to add to the holocaust.

 

In a fraction of a day all vestiges of civilization are gone, and the great cities - Los Angeles, San Francisco, Chicago, Dallas, New York - are nothing but legends.

 

https://www.cia.gov/...300070001-8.pdf

 

 

 

Spoiler

 

Spoiler Encore

 



BaconMeLoveIt #2 Posted Dec 17 2018 - 07:18

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Dumb question... but... why was it a classified document?

 

Does not seem to be something to worry about.


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TheManFromKekistan #4 Posted Dec 17 2018 - 14:54

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Interesting theory but if global extinction events like that happen every few tens of thousands of years how does the planet bounce back to full green and animals everywhere so quickly? The destruction it details out is pretty complete past a few very isolated areas and iirc there are living trees that date back to at least the last time this was supposed to have happened. Not discounting the theory itself just the frequency.

GeorgePreddy #5 Posted Dec 17 2018 - 16:10

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I'm ~70 years of age. The older I get, the less concern I have over "apocalypse" themes.

 

My concerns are more about my blood sugar level, etc.

 

In other words, real concerns for we older folk are more than enough to keep us occupied.

 

 

 

 

 

 



TheManFromKekistan #6 Posted Dec 17 2018 - 16:19

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Yeah I'm an old guy too and are not bothered by such things. However I am prepared for the small disasters like loss of power and water and easy access to food. Breaking cold war habits is hard. :hiding:

Klaatu_Nicto #7 Posted Dec 17 2018 - 22:05

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View PostBaconMeLoveIt, on Dec 16 2018 - 22:18, said:

Dumb question... but... why was it a classified document?

 

Does not seem to be something to worry about.

 

They might have classified a theory or research on a dramatic, unfamiliar event for the same reason discovery of intelligent aliens might be withheld from the public.

 

In 1960 the Brookings Institution produced this report for NASA.

 

Proposed Studies on the Implications of Peaceful Space Activities for Human Affairs.

 

Whether Earthmen would be inspired to all-out space efforts by such a discovery is a moot question. Anthropological files contain many examples of societies, sure of their place in the Universe, which have disintegrated when they have had to associate with previously unfamiliar societies espousing different ideas and different life ways; others that survived such an experience usually did so by paying the price of changes in values and attitudes and behaviour.


Since intelligent life might be discovered at any time via the radio telescope research presently under way...the consequences of such a discovery are presently unpredictably because or behaviour under even an approximation of such dramatic circumstances, two research areas can be recommended:

 
...Continuing studies to determine emotional and intellectual understanding and attitudes and successive alterations of them if any — regarding the possibility and consequence of discovering intelligent extraterrestrial life.


...Historical and empirical studies of the behaviour of peoples and their leaders when confronted with dramatic and unfamiliar events or social pressures. Such studies might help to provide programs for meeting and adjusting to the implications of such a discovery. Questions one might wish to answer by such studies would include: How might such information, under what circumstances be presented to or withheld from the public for what ends? What might be the role of the discovering scientists and other decision makers regarding the release of the fact of discovery?

 

https://www.brooking...errestrials.pdf

 

 



Klaatu_Nicto #8 Posted Dec 17 2018 - 22:11

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View PostTheManFromKekistan, on Dec 17 2018 - 05:54, said:

Interesting theory but if global extinction events like that happen every few tens of thousands of years how does the planet bounce back to full green and animals everywhere so quickly? The destruction it details out is pretty complete past a few very isolated areas and iirc there are living trees that date back to at least the last time this was supposed to have happened. Not discounting the theory itself just the frequency.

 

I question the frequency too.

 

The earth is very resilient and not as fragile as some would have us believe. Earth is self-correcting and has bounced back nicely from a number of extinction level events. 



Klaatu_Nicto #9 Posted Dec 17 2018 - 22:13

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View PostGeorgePreddy, on Dec 17 2018 - 07:10, said:

I'm ~70 years of age. The older I get, the less concern I have over "apocalypse" themes.

 

My concerns are more about my blood sugar level, etc.

 

In other words, real concerns for we older folk are more than enough to keep us occupied.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I am worried and concerned about it.

 

Seeing the end of the world is on my bucket list and I don't have much time left to see.

 

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Klaatu_Nicto #11 Posted Dec 17 2018 - 22:36

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Striker_70 #12 Posted Dec 18 2018 - 18:37

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View PostTheManFromKekistan, on Dec 17 2018 - 07:54, said:

Interesting theory but if global extinction events like that happen every few tens of thousands of years how does the planet bounce back to full green and animals everywhere so quickly? The destruction it details out is pretty complete past a few very isolated areas and iirc there are living trees that date back to at least the last time this was supposed to have happened. Not discounting the theory itself just the frequency.

 

About 10,000+ years ago there were animals in North America that no longer exist here which suddenly died out.  Camels, tigers, giant sloths, wholly mammoths, gigantic bears, cheetahs, etc all died out suddenly.  Something wiped all them out.  Not long ago the Sahara desert was a lush tropical rainforest.  We keep finding submerged civilizations which used to be on the coast.  The earth isn't nearly as stable as many would like to believe.

TheManFromKekistan #13 Posted Dec 18 2018 - 18:51

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View PostStriker_70, on Dec 18 2018 - 12:37, said:

 

About 10,000+ years ago there were animals in North America that no longer exist here which suddenly died out.  Camels, tigers, giant sloths, wholly mammoths, gigantic bears, cheetahs, etc all died out suddenly.  Something wiped all them out.  Not long ago the Sahara desert was a lush tropical rainforest.  We keep finding submerged civilizations which used to be on the coast.  The earth isn't nearly as stable as many would like to believe.

 

That was the last ice age which fully ended about 8000 years ago. 10000 years ago was prime ice age which wiped out a good portion of the planets land based biosphere. Notice that most of recorded human history is from the equatorial regions and that the old myths were of a frozen north. 10000 years ago places like chicago where under miles of ice.

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View PostTheManFromKekistan, on Dec 18 2018 - 11:51, said:

 

That was the last ice age which fully ended about 8000 years ago. 10000 years ago was prime ice age which wiped out a good portion of the planets land based biosphere. Notice that most of recorded human history is from the equatorial regions and that the old myths were of a frozen north. 10000 years ago places like chicago where under miles of ice.

 

It was the Younger Dryas.  A period where temperatures suddenly, severely changed in a matter of a few years.  Something catastrophic triggered this.  It didn't "just happen"

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J Harlen Bretz was an American geologis. Bretz published a paper in 1923, arguing that the channeled scablands in Eastern Washington were caused by massive flooding in the distant past. This was seen as arguing for a catastrophic explanation of the geology. The Geological Society of Washington, D.C invited the young Bretz to present his previously published research at a 12 January 1927 meeting where several other geologists presented competing theories. Bretz saw this as an ambush, and referred to the group as six "challenging elders". Their intention was to defeat him in a public debate, and thereby end the challenge his theories posed to their conservative interpretation of uniformitarianism.

 

Bretz defended his theories, kicking off an acrimonious 40 year debate over the origin of the Scablands. As he wrote in 1928, "Ideas without precedent are generally looked upon with disfavour and men are shocked if their conceptions of an orderly world are challenged." J.T. Pardee had worked with Bretz and had evidence of an ancient glacial lake that lent credence to Bretz's theories. Pardee, however, lacked the academic freedom of Bretz (he worked for the US Geological Survey) and did not enter the fray. Both Pardee and Bretz continued their research over the next 30 years, collecting and analyzing evidence that eventually identified Lake Missoula as the source of the Spokane Floods and creator of the Channeled Scablands. Research on open channel hydraulics in the 1970s further vindicated Bretz's and Pardee's theories.
https://en.wikipedia.../J_Harlen_Bretz





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Klaatu_Nicto #17 Posted Dec 23 2018 - 22:54

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:ohmy::ohmy:

 



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Klaatu_Nicto #19 Posted Dec 30 2018 - 10:05

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Oops. Wrong topic. :facepalm:

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