Jump to content


How much better is the T57 Heavy compared to the T54E1?

T57 Heavy T54E1

  • Please log in to reply
21 replies to this topic

24_inch_pythons #1 Posted Dec 20 2018 - 06:56

    Major

  • Players
  • 30285 battles
  • 5,732
  • [HSOLO] HSOLO
  • Member since:
    03-28-2012
 Seems to be a decent upgrade on paper.

Slatherer #2 Posted Dec 20 2018 - 07:01

    Major

  • Players
  • 36839 battles
  • 3,583
  • Member since:
    01-21-2014
It reloads SUPER QUICK.

It unloads it's clip SUPER FAST.

And it gets FOCUSED the moment it's spotted until the moment it dies.

so, is it better, yes and no.  If you can avoid being vulnerable to focused fire, you will do well in it.  Really, that's the trick. Otherwise, you will rage sell it.

sneakytails #3 Posted Dec 20 2018 - 07:02

    Sergeant

  • -Players-
  • 7688 battles
  • 246
  • [ESG] ESG
  • Member since:
    06-01-2014

I dont understand this line, why is the T10 a heavy, and the T8 and T9 are mediums?

Plus the T9 has no HEAT or HE rounds, but the T8 and T10 do?

 

 



Buttknuckle #4 Posted Dec 20 2018 - 07:03

    Major

  • Players
  • 52311 battles
  • 3,087
  • [GOONZ] GOONZ
  • Member since:
    03-19-2013
about as much of an improvement as the T54E1 over the T69

24_inch_pythons #5 Posted Dec 20 2018 - 07:09

    Major

  • Players
  • 30285 battles
  • 5,732
  • [HSOLO] HSOLO
  • Member since:
    03-28-2012

View PostButtknuckle, on Dec 20 2018 - 00:03, said:

about as much of an improvement as the T54E1 over the T69

 

so you mean it gets worse? again?

Buttknuckle #6 Posted Dec 20 2018 - 07:26

    Major

  • Players
  • 52311 battles
  • 3,087
  • [GOONZ] GOONZ
  • Member since:
    03-19-2013

View Post24_inch_pythons, on Dec 20 2018 - 06:09, said:

 

so you mean it gets worse? again?

 

really? you liked the t69 over the T54E1? Perhaps my analogy was inappropriate for you. I didnt enjoy the T69 at all.

 

The T57 is better, tier for tier than the 54E1

 


Edited by Buttknuckle, Dec 20 2018 - 07:27.


Zombie_Snuggles #7 Posted Dec 20 2018 - 07:38

    First lieutenant

  • -Players-
  • 27212 battles
  • 662
  • Member since:
    12-23-2015
I didn't like my T57 and it is the only tier 10 I have sold. It is too slow for my liking, I like my auto loaders to be fast and nimble. I will probably buy it back someday and give it another go. Maybe, but everyone focuses on you and you can't shoot and scoot, but if you play it right and always have support you will probably like it.

24_inch_pythons #8 Posted Dec 20 2018 - 07:44

    Major

  • Players
  • 30285 battles
  • 5,732
  • [HSOLO] HSOLO
  • Member since:
    03-28-2012

View PostButtknuckle, on Dec 20 2018 - 00:26, said:

 

really? you liked the t69 over the T54E1? Perhaps my analogy was inappropriate for you. I didnt enjoy the T69 at all.

 

The T57 is better, tier for tier than the 54E1

 

 

T54E1 is ok but it doesn't have any armor for how slow it is. I know it's not like the T57 is immensely armored... but it at least has some armor for how slow it is.

I_QQ_4_U #9 Posted Dec 20 2018 - 07:53

    Major

  • -Players-
  • 23342 battles
  • 7,272
  • Member since:
    10-17-2016

View Post24_inch_pythons, on Dec 20 2018 - 07:09, said:

 

so you mean it gets worse? again?

 

The 54 isn't great but it's WAY better than the 69, what a POS that thing is.

xXfuryXx #10 Posted Dec 20 2018 - 09:14

    Corporal

  • Players
  • 14194 battles
  • 43
  • Member since:
    06-12-2012

View PostI_QQ_4_U, on Dec 20 2018 - 06:53, said:

 

The 54 isn't great but it's WAY better than the 69, what a POS that thing is.

 

i actually feel they are basically the same.  except the big dmg of the big gun on 54.  still WAY under powered pen and super sluggish for t9 medium.

 

as said, if you have decent support and you use it just the right way 54 can unload a ton of dmg.  I figure it takes 7-8 secs to drop all 4 shots.  1500+ dmg in that time...only the Foch compares in t9.  few tanks are there but take a couple secs longer.    Problem is lack of any real armor and mobility and mediocre HPs.  

 

To me T57 needs a slight bump in HPs



DEADTIME #11 Posted Dec 20 2018 - 09:21

    First lieutenant

  • Players
  • 13310 battles
  • 616
  • [BETAS] BETAS
  • Member since:
    04-03-2011
The T69 with the 75mm gun is useless, look up useless in the dictionary and there it is. 

gen_penguin #12 Posted Dec 20 2018 - 17:00

    First lieutenant

  • -Players-
  • 13023 battles
  • 579
  • Member since:
    05-11-2015

T69 and T54E1 was two of the worst tanks I have ever played!!  The T57 Heavy is an upgrade in every way. Faster, better armor, much much much better reload time! Its a fun tank to play and you are not out of the game for 35 seconds waiting to reload.



I_QQ_4_U #13 Posted Dec 20 2018 - 17:12

    Major

  • -Players-
  • 23342 battles
  • 7,272
  • Member since:
    10-17-2016

View PostxXfuryXx, on Dec 20 2018 - 09:14, said:

 

i actually feel they are basically the same.  except the big dmg of the big gun on 54.  still WAY under powered pen and super sluggish for t9 medium.

 

as said, if you have decent support and you use it just the right way 54 can unload a ton of dmg.  I figure it takes 7-8 secs to drop all 4 shots.  1500+ dmg in that time...only the Foch compares in t9.  few tanks are there but take a couple secs longer.    Problem is lack of any real armor and mobility and mediocre HPs.  

 

To me T57 needs a slight bump in HPs

 

The biggest problem with the 54 is it's too slow to take advantage of it's gun, with it's bad pen on standard rounds trying to get to the side of even big slow heavies can be an issue. It works well as a support tank when you can ambush an already damaged tank that's distracted but I find that either you're top tier and have nobody to support or the tanks you're trying to support are tomatoes who die right off the bat. So yes it CAN be very devastating in the right conditions but those conditions are rare.

brianc53 #14 Posted Dec 20 2018 - 17:13

    First lieutenant

  • -Players-
  • 24449 battles
  • 568
  • Member since:
    11-27-2016
I hated the T54E1’s gun (Even the top one, felt like it couldn’t pen), but I performed better in it than I am now performing in the T57. That said, I enjoy the T57 more (so I guess “enjoy” doesn’t not equate to “perform”).
I feel like the problem with the T57 is that the results vary wildly. You can have an insane 5k damage, 7-kill game (my best) and then you can have a game where you land two shots from your clip and then you get focused to death. It’s not a “normal” heavy that can use its armor to defend itself, and it’s a bit too slow to fire its clip and run away from a determined enemy.
If you’re ok with having highs and lows, then the T57 can be good. Otherwise, I’d look elsewhere.

NARWL_Legend_Soviet #15 Posted Dec 20 2018 - 17:22

    Captain

  • Players
  • 27805 battles
  • 1,202
  • [MAHOU] MAHOU
  • Member since:
    03-22-2012

T57 is a great tank and the skin that just came out makes it look even better. 

 

The high point of that line is the T57, the reload is great, the HEAT pen is really great, its all in all a good autoloading heavy tank. 

 



ARCNA442 #16 Posted Dec 20 2018 - 19:52

    Staff sergeant

  • -Players-
  • 14987 battles
  • 441
  • [RE4GD] RE4GD
  • Member since:
    09-10-2016
The T57 is the best of the three (and like you I preferred the T69 to the T54). You finally have good pen and gunhandling, plus you now get higher DPM than many single shot tanks.

SporkBoy #17 Posted Dec 20 2018 - 19:58

    Major

  • Players
  • 48843 battles
  • 2,865
  • [PZB] PZB
  • Member since:
    02-06-2014
Took me a long time to figure out how to play the 54. Those lessons carry over to the 57.

Muppetmaster #18 Posted Dec 20 2018 - 20:27

    Corporal

  • Players
  • 28798 battles
  • 64
  • [6PACK] 6PACK
  • Member since:
    03-13-2014

The t54e1 used to be really good.  Feature creep has kinda obsoleted it though.  New tier 9's with better guns, bigger clips, much more mobility etc make it not so useful.  I mean, compare the italian line or French autoloaders to it...

 

T57 is still pretty good.


Edited by Muppetmaster, Dec 20 2018 - 20:29.


WarMongers #19 Posted Dec 20 2018 - 21:08

    Captain

  • -Players-
  • 15996 battles
  • 1,202
  • [SCRAP] SCRAP
  • Member since:
    05-20-2014
Did ok in the 54 and can't catch a break in the 57....   Not played either in some time though.

Mokoma #20 Posted Dec 20 2018 - 21:44

    Major

  • -Players-
  • 15927 battles
  • 3,157
  • Member since:
    03-25-2015
Haven’t played my 57 in forever, might give it another try now with the new skin. The decent burst + crazy dpm for an autoloader is super strong if you can stay alive.





Also tagged with T57 Heavy, T54E1

1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users