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Achilles_Heel93 #1 Posted Dec 30 2018 - 16:36

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I have kept up with the debate regarding the removal of the Indien-Panzer for the past 3-4 years that it has been going on and I havent really ever thought of a good solution until today when i was researching possible replacements. Therefore I have a proposal do the devs.

 

1) Remove the Indien-Panzer from the Tech Tree and make it a Tier 8 Premium Medium. nerf fire rate to 8.

2) Place the Leopard Prototype A at Tier 8, and give it 1 turret (first) and 2 gun choices

          -Europanzer (Leopard Prototype AQ2)

          -88 cm. Kw.K. 43 L/71

          -9 cm Kanone

3) Place the Leopard prototype B at tier 9 with the second turret and 2 gun choices

          -Standardpanzer turret

          -9 cm Kanone with fire rate increased to 8.4 (+5%), accuracy to .32 (-.02), aim time to 2.1 (-.2)

          -105 L7A1 as is currently.

 

This would make the tech tree more linear from the VK 30.02 D on, and would give german mediums another good crew trainer. 



TommyBuns #2 Posted Dec 30 2018 - 16:44

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View PostAchilles_Heel93, on Dec 30 2018 - 10:36, said:

I have kept up with the debate regarding the removal of the Indien-Panzer for the past 3-4 years that it has been going on and I havent really ever thought of a good solution until today when i was researching possible replacements. Therefore I have a proposal do the devs.

 

1) Remove the Indien-Panzer from the Tech Tree and make it a Tier 8 Premium Medium. nerf fire rate to 8.

2) Place the Leopard Prototype A at Tier 8, and give it 1 turret (first) and 2 gun choices

          -Europanzer (Leopard Prototype AQ2)

          -88 cm. Kw.K. 43 L/71

          -9 cm Kanone

3) Place the Leopard prototype B at tier 9 with the second turret and 2 gun choices

          -Standardpanzer turret

          -9 cm Kanone with fire rate increased to 8.4 (+5%), accuracy to .32 (-.02), aim time to 2.1 (-.2)

          -105 L7A1 as is currently.

 

This would make the tech tree more linear from the VK 30.02 D on, and would give german mediums another good crew trainer. 

 

Isn't there one already (A premium Indien Panzer)? I.E. - the 58 Mutz, and/or Schwarz Panzer's just a premium Indien Panzer, isn't it?  Check the stats, it's also got the nerfed ROF (7.82) just like you're suggesting. I've never played the 58 Mutz or Schwarz Panzer, but the Indien Panzer itself really wouldn't be that bad with a mobility boost. I have the top engine which I wasted 21k exp. on , it's a 130 horsepower upgrade, and wasn't near enough. The stats say top speed is 55 km/h and this thing doesn't come anywhere close. Apparently has terrible soft stats for ground resistance or something. Hopefully it gets a buff, otherwise it's miserable to play in its' current iteration.

Edited by TommyBuns, Dec 30 2018 - 16:57.


Ironclad73 #3 Posted Dec 30 2018 - 16:47

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View PostTommyBuns, on Dec 30 2018 - 07:44, said:

 

Isn't there one already? I.E. - the 58 Mutz, and/or Schwarz Panzer's just a premium Indien Panzer, isn't it? 

 

Yes, pretty much so.

the_dude_76 #4 Posted Dec 30 2018 - 17:47

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??? You've spent 3-4 years trying to get an average tank removed from the game?? The IP may not be great but it's not a bad tank by any stretch.

Achilles_Heel93 #5 Posted Dec 30 2018 - 18:55

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Then why not remove it? its not like anyone is gonna miss it. ive been playin for 4 years. never met someone that liked the tank

Achilles_Heel93 #6 Posted Dec 30 2018 - 18:56

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View Postthe_dude_76, on Dec 30 2018 - 10:47, said:

??? You've spent 3-4 years trying to get an average tank removed from the game?? The IP may not be great but it's not a bad tank by any stretch.

Just because i have followed the conversation, doesnt mean i have been trying, only that i have paid attention. reading comprehension dude.



the_dude_76 #7 Posted Dec 30 2018 - 19:05

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View PostAchilles_Heel93, on Dec 30 2018 - 11:55, said:

Then why not remove it? its not like anyone is gonna miss it. ive been playin for 4 years. never met someone that liked the tank

 

Remove it just because it's average?? So remove half the tanks in the game then??

 

View PostAchilles_Heel93, on Dec 30 2018 - 11:56, said:

Just because i have followed the conversation, doesnt mean i have been trying, only that i have paid attention. reading comprehension dude.

 

I can comprehend just fine. But you were talking about "keeping up" with some debate that just doesn't exist, hence my confusion. Maybe 3-4 years ago someone mentioned it but the idea that it's a current and on-going topic is just false.

Achilles_Heel93 #8 Posted Dec 30 2018 - 19:19

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View Postthe_dude_76, on Dec 30 2018 - 12:05, said:

 

Remove it just because it's average?? So remove half the tanks in the game then??

 

 

I can comprehend just fine. But you were talking about "keeping up" with some debate that just doesn't exist, hence my confusion. Maybe 3-4 years ago someone mentioned it but the idea that it's a current and on-going topic is just false.

 

and you know that how? theres plenty of board posts about it spanning the years.



64sherman #9 Posted Dec 31 2018 - 00:29

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Don't you dare touch my Indien Panzer.  If you want to replace it and gift me an IDENTICAL premium version then I'm all ears.  

The tank is hardly average.  I'm terribad and I do great in it.  Nothing wrong with it.  The last thing we need is for war gaming to go about fixing things that aren't broken.  


Edited by 64sherman, Dec 31 2018 - 00:33.


Achilles_Heel93 #10 Posted Dec 31 2018 - 18:28

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View Post64sherman, on Dec 30 2018 - 17:29, said:

Don't you dare touch my Indien Panzer.  If you want to replace it and gift me an IDENTICAL premium version then I'm all ears.  

The tank is hardly average.  I'm terribad and I do great in it.  Nothing wrong with it.  The last thing we need is for war gaming to go about fixing things that aren't broken.  

 

that was kinda my idea. gift it to current owners as a premium. think Death Star and FV215B

Achilles_Heel93 #11 Posted Dec 31 2018 - 18:31

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View Postthe_dude_76, on Dec 30 2018 - 12:05, said:

 

Remove it just because it's average?? So remove half the tanks in the game then??

 

 

I can comprehend just fine. But you were talking about "keeping up" with some debate that just doesn't exist, hence my confusion. Maybe 3-4 years ago someone mentioned it but the idea that it's a current and on-going topic is just false.

 

also it isnt about it being average. Its about that fact that the tank just doesnt fit its line. The tanks in its line are all fast, agile, stealthy tanks. The Indien-Panzer is none of those. The only similarity is its sniping gun.





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