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MastuhWaffles #1 Posted Jan 05 2019 - 06:15

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In all my time gaming, I have yet to understand why team damage exists in some. Now realistic games I can totally see it being a thing, but games like WOT, I don't get.

I don't see the purpose of having it anymore for many reasons. First off, it really only benefits teamkillers, (except for those that tk arty on the enemy team, keep up the good work) and they only get banned when the system decides to work. Secondly we all have had the team damage where you are shooting at a tank and your 3000iq teammate yolos in front of you and eats the shot. Some derp guns fire so slow that friendly tanks may move in front of your shot, I've seen that happen a few times. Finally with the stun mechanic on arty, it's annoying when you get stunned by your own arty. I just don't see the point, why bother? I think they should just remove it, it does nothing to benefit the game and only causes problems. 



tod914 #2 Posted Jan 05 2019 - 06:18

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I have yet to see an arty player turn blue for team damage/kills.  Think that needs to be revamped a bit.  They need to be discouraged from taking those danger close shots.

minneerminneer #3 Posted Jan 05 2019 - 06:22

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View Posttod914, on Jan 05 2019 - 06:18, said:

I have yet to see an arty player turn blue for team damage/kills.  Think that needs to be revamped a bit.  They need to be discouraged from taking those danger close shots.

Arty will only turn blue if they hit a team mate directly multiple times wg doesn't care about splash at all



VooDooKobra #4 Posted Jan 05 2019 - 06:32

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Well if you look at the video it looks like team damage might be gone at some point in 2019, its at :20

 



I_QQ_4_U #5 Posted Jan 05 2019 - 07:54

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When I first started playing this game I thought it was stupid too but now I think it would be a mistake to remove it, it adds more to the game than the odd TKer takes from it. It would definitely cause more crying here as people wouldn't be able to adapt to how the game would change without it.

VooDooKobra #6 Posted Jan 05 2019 - 08:23

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View PostI_QQ_4_U, on Jan 04 2019 - 23:54, said:

When I first started playing this game I thought it was stupid too but now I think it would be a mistake to remove it, it adds more to the game than the odd TKer takes from it. It would definitely cause more crying here as people wouldn't be able to adapt to how the game would change without it.

 

i am not a fan of removing it but the more i watch claus kellerman videos the more i start to understand why they might want to go in this direction.  my biggest concern though is that trolls will use more physics abuses to get people banned.  which is something WG will have to take seriously

TheSeventhSeeker #7 Posted Jan 05 2019 - 11:17

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Teamkilling shouldn't be removed, because teamkilling arty at the beginning of the match is the only way we players can fight the arty scourge, if WG won't remove them.

Edited by TheSeventhSeeker, Jan 05 2019 - 11:18.


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View PostMastuhWaffles, on Jan 05 2019 - 06:15, said:

In all my time gaming, I have yet to understand why team damage exists in some. Now realistic games I can totally see it being a thing, but games like WOT, I don't get.

I don't see the purpose of having it anymore for many reasons. First off, it really only benefits teamkillers, (except for those that tk arty on the enemy team, keep up the good work) and they only get banned when the system decides to work. Secondly we all have had the team damage where you are shooting at a tank and your 3000iq teammate yolos in front of you and eats the shot. Some derp guns fire so slow that friendly tanks may move in front of your shot, I've seen that happen a few times. Finally with the stun mechanic on arty, it's annoying when you get stunned by your own arty. I just don't see the point, why bother? I think they should just remove it, it does nothing to benefit the game and only causes problems. 

 

I think it would be a shame to remove it.

 

It is just another of those layers of complexity that makes the game great.

 

Honestly, what percentage of games are you in, with a lot of team damage., or  team killings?

 

It does not really seem to be a large issue. Mr Kellerman, receives what seems to be a lot of videos about team killing. 

 

I see team killing infrequently, accidental team damage only occasionally.

The game would be dumbed down, and the team killing trolls win

It creates a need for caution, and adds to the game.

 

Strengthen the penalty, I do not know how the credits due are calculated, but the times I bother to look, it seems low.

Make restitution credits hurt. Even just have an across the board quantity. 

Say a million credits for any team damage or team killing at tier ten, and decrease the fines, the lower the tier. As well as what they currently have in place now. 

 


Edited by scHnuuudle_bop, Jan 05 2019 - 11:34.


VooDooKobra #9 Posted Jan 05 2019 - 11:35

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View PostTheSeventhSeeker, on Jan 05 2019 - 03:17, said:

Teamkilling shouldn't be removed, because teamkilling arty at the beginning of the match is the only way we players can fight the arty scourge, if WG won't remove them.

 

and do it enough and you remove yourself

TheSeventhSeeker #10 Posted Jan 05 2019 - 11:37

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View PostVooDooKobra, on Jan 05 2019 - 11:35, said:

 

and do it enough and you remove yourself

 

I've killed a few thousand and I'm still kicking around.

VooDooKobra #11 Posted Jan 05 2019 - 11:48

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View PostTheSeventhSeeker, on Jan 05 2019 - 03:37, said:

 

I've killed a few thousand and I'm still kicking around.

 

might be more credible from your actual account, or did it get banned from forums?

Prayton007 #12 Posted Jan 05 2019 - 19:05

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there is mods that will stop you from firing if it is a team mate, why will WG not put is in game?   I think it may be due to WG employees enjoying TKing from time to time?  Its in the game to help you chose you shots instead of just point and shot wildly while team mates ae very close to target.  It's called use of skill.  Remember that when a program becomes to easy it will start to die fast, (Ever quest, WoW, ect,ect).  I do feel that spg needs help as their shells fly everywhere but where it is aimed, but taking it out would hurt more than help.  They do need to tighten up on dealing with those that do it just for fun or revenge.

 



Flarvin #13 Posted Jan 05 2019 - 20:06

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Why have team damage? 

 

Maybe to add more complexity, instead of mindlessly shooting regardless of teammates’ locations. 



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View PostI_QQ_4_U, on Jan 05 2019 - 07:54, said:

When I first started playing this game I thought it was stupid too but now I think it would be a mistake to remove it, it adds more to the game than the odd TKer takes from it. It would definitely cause more crying here as people wouldn't be able to adapt to how the game would change without it.

 

Add to it the removal means more abuse of bumping/blocking/cliff pushing with no possible retaliation. Rules are dont shoot Green. However the possibility you may shoot Green if he is being a [edited]keeps a lot of people inline. Remove that an the [edited]zzz can block you/shove you off cliff/bump you to knock your shots off with no penalty.

TheAquaLung #15 Posted Jan 05 2019 - 23:55

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How does team damage benefit team killers?


HI_FIVE #16 Posted Jan 05 2019 - 23:57

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View PostTheSeventhSeeker, on Jan 05 2019 - 06:17, said:

Teamkilling shouldn't be removed, because teamkilling arty at the beginning of the match is the only way we players can fight the arty scourge, if WG won't remove them.

 

Exactly.Team damage must stay.

3nr0n #17 Posted Jan 06 2019 - 00:01

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View PostVooDooKobra, on Jan 05 2019 - 01:23, said:

 

i am not a fan of removing it but the more i watch claus kellerman videos the more i start to understand why they might want to go in this direction.  my biggest concern though is that trolls will use more physics abuses to get people banned.  which is something WG will have to take seriously

 

The trolls will still troll but without getting a penalty from team damage they will find other ways to troll, I feel there will be more pushing tanks into the open.

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View Post3nr0n, on Jan 05 2019 - 16:01, said:

 

The trolls will still troll but without getting a penalty from team damage they will find other ways to troll, I feel there will be more pushing tanks into the open.

 

which is why Wg would have to look at things like that closer than before, maybe more bans can start happening and crybabies who feel they get to punish other players for playing what they want go to other games

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View PostTheSeventhSeeker, on Jan 05 2019 - 11:17, said:

Teamkilling shouldn't be removed, because teamkilling arty at the beginning of the match is the only way we players can fight the arty scourge, if WG won't remove them.

What’s this ‘we’ kimosabe, you gotta bird in your pocket?



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View PostVooDooKobra, on Jan 05 2019 - 19:04, said:

 

which is why Wg would have to look at things like that closer than before, maybe more bans can start happening and crybabies who feel they get to punish other players for playing what they want go to other games

 

It seems the only crybabies here are the ones that want team damage removed.




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