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DomoSapien #1 Posted Jan 09 2019 - 17:51

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The TS-5, a Tier VIII Premium US Tank Destroyer, hits supertest today!

 

 

It's a well-protected TD designed for close quarters combat. Featuring frontal hull armor thickness of up to 260mm and a DPM of over 2800HP, it's a fast-firing and hard-hitting brawler.
With this protection and firepower, the mobility caps out at a top speed of 26 km/h. 
Average Alpha damage is 400 and average shell penetration with basic ammunition is 248mm.
The lack of precision and relatively slow shell velocity limits its combat effectiveness over long distances. While it isn't terrible, the TS-5 excels while getting up-close-and-personal.


This 'hard-shelled' TD will feel right at home defending a critical flank and bringing holed-up/dug in enemy vehicles out of their defensive positions with its impressive firepower. Much like its big brother, the T110E3, the TS-5 can withstand quite a bit of enemy fire, even from many tier X vehicles, provided you cover up its massive lower plate.

To summarize the vehicle: It's a hard-shelled, slightly sluggish TD with massive DPM and reliable penetration that excels when fighting over close-range.

 

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Edited by DomoSapien, Jan 10 2019 - 20:09.


DomoSapien #2 Posted Jan 10 2019 - 20:08

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Ortinoth_ #3 Posted Jan 10 2019 - 20:14

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that gun depression is unusual for US Tech Tree tanks, but bout time for a tier 8 US TD Premium --- so we will see this around xmas :P

pickpocket293 #4 Posted Jan 10 2019 - 21:55

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Yeah, the -5 depression will be much more limiting than -6... 6 is workable and comfortable, but less than that begins to be a bit of a hindrance.

 

 

That being said, I'm excited for a mini-E3. The stats seem to suggest that it'll play like an E3, which sounds fun to me.



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Vardeman #6 Posted Jan 10 2019 - 22:53

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Same crew as the E3?

 



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View PostVardeman, on Jan 10 2019 - 15:53, said:

Same crew as the E3?

 

 

E3 and E4 both have 2 loaders. This only has one. Otherwise it's a match.

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View Postpickpocket293, on Jan 10 2019 - 17:58, said:

 

E3 and E4 both have 2 loaders. This only has one. Otherwise it's a match.

 

Pity...

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Avalon304 #9 Posted Jan 10 2019 - 23:25

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View PostOrtinoth_, on Jan 10 2019 - 12:14, said:

that gun depression is unusual for US Tech Tree tanks, but bout time for a tier 8 US TD Premium --- so we will see this around xmas :P

 

View Postpickpocket293, on Jan 10 2019 - 13:55, said:

Yeah, the -5 depression will be much more limiting than -6... 6 is workable and comfortable, but less than that begins to be a bit of a hindrance.

 

 

That being said, I'm excited for a mini-E3. The stats seem to suggest that it'll play like an E3, which sounds fun to me.

 

-5 is the same depression as both the T28 and T95, which this tank (in game) appears to be modeled after, in terms of playstyle.

 

View PostVardeman, on Jan 10 2019 - 15:03, said:

 

Pity...

:sceptic:

 

Loader skills arent that useful anyway...

ThatTrafficCone #10 Posted Jan 11 2019 - 03:58

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I'd personally rather the TS-5 receive a 155 mm and replace the T110E3, as the former retains the crew layout from the T95 and the latter is a little too unlike its original specifications and doesn't quite resemble the T28/T95. At least with the TS-5 its armor values are unknown (to my knowledge, anyways) so there's more leeway to change it up in my opinion.

 

For a Tier VIII premium, you guys could actually just place the T110E3 there. The TS-5 used a smoothbore 120 mm gun iirc, so it's a little disconcerting to see that here when instead it could just be replaced by a rifled gun of a different caliber. The T110E3 at least used the same gun in the M103. Keep things a little more historical, y'know?



Mikosah #11 Posted Jan 11 2019 - 05:26

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In theory the TS-5 will be a perfectly normal and fun TD and a good crew trainer for the US line, the one wrinkle is that considering the track record for premiums we now have little choice but to be extremely paranoid of new releases. The very tiresome but necessary questions go as follows:

 

1- Will this end up being a superior T28?

2- Can lower tiers reliably penetrate its frontal weakspots without needing to spam gold?

3- Is there any secondary niche for it to fill if corridor brawling is impractical?



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View PostThatTrafficCone, on Jan 10 2019 - 19:58, said:

I'd personally rather the TS-5 receive a 155 mm and replace the T110E3, as the former retains the crew layout from the T95 and the latter is a little too unlike its original specifications and doesn't quite resemble the T28/T95. At least with the TS-5 its armor values are unknown (to my knowledge, anyways) so there's more leeway to change it up in my opinion.

 

For a Tier VIII premium, you guys could actually just place the T110E3 there. The TS-5 used a smoothbore 120 mm gun iirc, so it's a little disconcerting to see that here when instead it could just be replaced by a rifled gun of a different caliber. The T110E3 at least used the same gun in the M103. Keep things a little more historical, y'know?

 

TS-5 would have had a smoothbore 105mm gun... so... youd just be replacing one different caliber with another. (And it looks like the TS-5 in game is just going to have some rifled 120mm anyway).

 

While I agree from a crew layout perspective the TS-5 would be better suited going to tier 10 and have the E3 (with the 120mm M58) down at tier 8 (with wildly adjusted armor values from its current in game ones) the TS-5 is still essentially not even close to "historical" (actually probably further from since its armor would definitely have to be buffed from what it currently is to stand reliably at tier 10).



Nefermandias #13 Posted Jan 11 2019 - 15:58

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I'll stick with the Scorpion. The thing's lower plate makes the rest of the armor layout useless, and that gun depression means it'll have a hard time actually fighting with said armor on ridge lines. At this point my brain says "lets just not get shot at, period" and the M56 is good at doing just that.

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View PostAvalon304, on Jan 10 2019 - 22:20, said:

 

TS-5 would have had a smoothbore 105mm gun... so... youd just be replacing one different caliber with another. (And it looks like the TS-5 in game is just going to have some rifled 120mm anyway).

 

While I agree from a crew layout perspective the TS-5 would be better suited going to tier 10 and have the E3 (with the 120mm M58) down at tier 8 (with wildly adjusted armor values from its current in game ones) the TS-5 is still essentially not even close to "historical" (actually probably further from since its armor would definitely have to be buffed from what it currently is to stand reliably at tier 10).

 

What I mean is, there's more info on the T110E3 than the TS-5, so it makes more sense for Wargaming to have more of a say in the stats of the TS-5 than the T110E3. What we do know of the T110E3 would make it a competitive Tier VIII tank, so I'd rather have it there and put the TS-5 at Tier X.




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