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echo9835 #1 Posted Jan 10 2019 - 07:19

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The AMX ELC is my most played tank, however, all but a few of those games were played pre 9.18 when I was a fairly new and mediocre player. I have fond memories of the tank and I heard somewhere that the new wheeled AFVs or Light tanks, or free kills or whatever are going to start from the AMX ELC. I have a full three perk crew starting their fourth skill in this tank and I'm not exactly being cheap about what I run in it ammo and consumable wise. I hate it. It is bad. Like, REALLY BAD. 120 pen? 320 HP? It gets stopped by fences and trees, it gets clipped out or two crappy LTs one tier lower, it's slow. Why is it this bad? Why?

 

This is my first game in it since 9.18

http://wotreplays.eu...835-amx_elc_bis

I never had an ace tanker in it before 9.18, but I got up to 1500 base XP in it. In this replay I get 1000 base XP and an ace tanker. 


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tanopasman62 #2 Posted Jan 10 2019 - 07:22

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RIP ELC, you're still missed.

 

They nerfed the mobilty on all tier 5 lights but somehow T67 having better mobility than any of them is okay.

 

It's almost like Murazor has 10k battles on the thing or something.



TheseViolentDelights #3 Posted Jan 10 2019 - 07:24

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Give it 225 horsepower & slightly better gun handling 

echo9835 #4 Posted Jan 10 2019 - 07:29

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just got a second MoE for 500 damage. wow, no one plays this thing anymore.



LovePrevails #5 Posted Jan 10 2019 - 07:47

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  There's no reason to. The T67 does it better.

OctavariumDT8 #6 Posted Jan 10 2019 - 10:23

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View Postecho9835, on Jan 10 2019 - 07:29, said:

just got a second MoE for 500 damage. wow, no one plays this thing anymore.

 

Yeah, happened to me last night too. Bought it again to grind it for new French line and bam, first game - 2nd MoE. Played 13 battles and got to 92% and then dropped to 89% on my last game. Got enough XP so I sold it. Guess I could have easily done 3rd mark. 

So sad....



TankFullOfBourbon #7 Posted Jan 10 2019 - 10:47

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Fun? I share your sentiment.

 

I didn't check your replay but as I am playing it right now I can tell you I don't find it fun. The AMX 13 75 is fun, the AMX 12t and B-C 12t are funnish, but the AMX ELC bis is not particularly fun, IMHO. It's really a tank that benefits from having a small frame, but besides that? It's slow, not very maneuverable, the guns are iffy, the top gun with it's long reload and limited horizontal arch is horrible. I do well in it, but that's more because it's tier 5 than that the tank is good.


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_Red_Saaryn_ #8 Posted Jan 10 2019 - 10:50

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View PostTankFullOfBourbon, on Jan 10 2019 - 10:47, said:

Fun? 

 

I didn't check your replay but as I am playing it right now I can tell you I don't find it fun. The AMX 13 75 is fun, the AMX 12t and B-C 12t are funnish, but the AMX ELC bis is not particularly fun, IMHO. It's really a tank that benefits from having a small frame, but besides that? It's slow, not very maneuverable, the guns are iffy, the top gun with it's long reload and limited horizontal arch is horrible. I do well in it, but that's more because it's tier 5 than that the tank is good.

I played mine as td with no gun depression and was really funny for me XD



sargev55 #9 Posted Jan 10 2019 - 14:42

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I miss the 90mm gun having like ~200 pen.  Now I use the 75mm gun with its semi rotating turret.

Goat_Rodeo #10 Posted Jan 10 2019 - 15:21

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It’s just a sad shadow of its former self. I’ve ground out just over 50K XP for the new wheelies and during all those games, I lost count how many times a T67 would zoom past me. It’s like riding a magical garden slug. They beat the ever loving crap out of this things terrain resistance values and makes it feel like you’re pushing Lakeville valley everywhere you drive. And yes, small wooden fences damn near bring you to a halt. Like catching the 1 wire on a carrier landing...Someone already mentioned this before, but the only reason I can do well enough in it, is most tier 5 pubbies are just free XP and I know the maps well enough to keep ahead. 

AMC ELC used to be a “destination tank” now it’s just something to overcome for most new players. 



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It is not anywhere close to the fun it used to be, but I still like it enough to have gotten my 2nd mark on it post-nerf with the 75mm on the rotating turret. The faster reload and somewhat better flexibility of a turret don't make up for the balls to the wall, live fast die young fun it used to be, IMO. :(

mr_lummox #12 Posted Jan 10 2019 - 17:30

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I bought mine back and the only way it comes close to the old elc is 120 oct + food with my old 4 skill crew.  

 

I WANT MY OLD ELC BACK!!!!!



Anublister #13 Posted Jan 10 2019 - 18:08

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It's tier 5 ffs.

tanopasman62 #14 Posted Jan 10 2019 - 18:49

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View Postsargev55, on Jan 10 2019 - 14:42, said:

I miss the 90mm gun having like ~200 pen.  Now I use the 75mm gun with its semi rotating turret.

 

View PostExiledcrow, on Jan 10 2019 - 15:50, said:

It is not anywhere close to the fun it used to be, but I still like it enough to have gotten my 2nd mark on it post-nerf with the 75mm on the rotating turret. The faster reload and somewhat better flexibility of a turret don't make up for the balls to the wall, live fast die young fun it used to be, IMO. :(

 

You guys could just play the Chaffee for that matter.

Kevlar1972 #15 Posted Jan 10 2019 - 19:46

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At least the new T-50-2 isn't a total turd!

mr_lummox #16 Posted Jan 10 2019 - 21:32

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View PostAnublister, on Jan 10 2019 - 17:08, said:

It's tier 5 ffs.

 

It used to be treated like a tier 6 and fought up to tier 8's almost always bottom tier.  I was glorious to play that tank in the old light tank MM.

Tuturuuu #17 Posted Jan 11 2019 - 01:50

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Apparently I played this tank enough in my earlier days of WoT for it to still be my second most played tank. I avoided the vehicle after the major LT rebalance, but once I got back to it I was shocked to learn that I didn’t hate playing it, after the nerfs. Did substantially better with it than before. I maintain that it got hit a bit too hard with the nerfs, but it’s far from bad.




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