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Kittens_on_a_stick #1 Posted Jan 16 2019 - 08:01

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Wargaming has supposedly been trying to fix Match Maker (MM) for years.  I'm throwing the BS FLAG.  Every supposed MM "fix" has failed.

Match Maker has never worked, cannot currently work, and probably never will work.  Why?  Because Match Maker does not include mods in it's calculations.

Either lock down the client side and completely remove mods or include mods in MM calculations.  For example if a player has X, Y, and Z mods installed (legal or illegal); MM will not put that player on a team unless another player with X, Y, and Z mods can be placed on the opposing team.

Either one will work, any other supposed MM "fix" is just another shovel full of brown smelly stuff.

 



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View PostKittens_on_a_stick, on Jan 16 2019 - 01:01, said:

Wargaming has supposedly been trying to fix Match Maker (MM) for years.  I'm throwing the BS FLAG.  Every supposed MM "fix" has failed.

Match Maker has never worked, cannot currently work, and probably never will work.  Why?  Because Match Maker does not include mods in it's calculations.

Either lock down the client side and completely remove mods or include mods in MM calculations.  For example if a player has X, Y, and Z mods installed (legal or illegal); MM will not put that player on a team unless another player with X, Y, and Z mods can be placed on the opposing team.

Either one will work, any other supposed MM "fix" is just another shovel full of brown smelly stuff.

 

 

They aren't going to.  Most players cannot win without advantages, so they will keep it as is.

Code4 #3 Posted Jan 16 2019 - 08:56

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You do realize MM is not designed so you can win all the time ?

Edit: The only time they change it is when enough people howl and whine like stuck pigs. 


Edited by Code4, Jan 16 2019 - 08:57.


BigDollarBillz #4 Posted Jan 16 2019 - 09:08

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What does a person running mods have to do with match maker? Myself I only run session stats, and return crew to tank. So how does that effect match maker?

tanopasman62 #5 Posted Jan 16 2019 - 09:10

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You just went full tinfoil.

Tolos #6 Posted Jan 16 2019 - 09:48

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View PostKittens_on_a_stick, on Jan 16 2019 - 07:01, said:

Wargaming has supposedly been trying to fix Match Maker (MM) for years.  I'm throwing the BS FLAG.  Every supposed MM "fix" has failed.

Match Maker has never worked, cannot currently work, and probably never will work.  Why?  Because Match Maker does not include mods in it's calculations.

Either lock down the client side and completely remove mods or include mods in MM calculations.  For example if a player has X, Y, and Z mods installed (legal or illegal); MM will not put that player on a team unless another player with X, Y, and Z mods can be placed on the opposing team.

Either one will work, any other supposed MM "fix" is just another shovel full of brown smelly stuff.

 

 

Why not just make a mod whining thread rather than this crap. Because that's all your post is. 

Kittens_on_a_stick #7 Posted Jan 16 2019 - 09:50

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View Posttanopasman62, on Jan 15 2019 - 22:10, said:

You just went full tinfoil.

 

Seriously!  How many 15-0 and 1-15 matches do you have to see before you acknowledge it isn't working?

Besides every damn illegal mod user in the game will tell you, "Mods don't really help. it's just skill."  If that's so; What's the problem?



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View PostKittens_on_a_stick, on Jan 16 2019 - 09:50, said:

 

Seriously!  How many 15-0 and 1-15 matches do you have to see before you acknowledge it isn't working?

Besides every damn illegal mod user in the game will tell you, "Mods don't really help. it's just skill."  If that's so; What's the problem?

 

So there's a mod to make players on the enemy team play like complete [edited]?, wow I'm downloading it right now.

Kittens_on_a_stick #9 Posted Jan 16 2019 - 09:57

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View PostTolos, on Jan 15 2019 - 22:48, said:

 

Why not just make a mod whining thread rather than this crap. Because that's all your post is.

 

lmbo, it didn't take long to rope in a mod user.  Just like my previous response; every damn illegal mod user in the game will claim, "Mods don't help, it's just skill."  So AGAIN my question;  It's that's so, what's the problem?

 



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View PostKittens_on_a_stick, on Jan 16 2019 - 08:57, said:

 

lmbo, it didn't take long to rope in a mod user.  Just like my previous response; every damn illegal mod user in the game will claim, "Mods don't help, it's just skill."  So AGAIN my question;  It's that's so, what's the problem?

 

 

So because I called you out on what is blatantly a mod whine thread, I use illegal mods ?. You do understand how monumentally stupid that makes you look, right ?. 

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View PostKittens_on_a_stick, on Jan 16 2019 - 02:57, said:

 

lmbo, it didn't take long to rope in a mod user.  Just like my previous response; every damn illegal mod user in the game will claim, "Mods don't help, it's just skill."  So AGAIN my question;  It's that's so, what's the problem?

 

 

Please describe illegal, because most mods in this game are 100% legal and give no advantage, tho some will argue XVM tells stats of players so they get singled out, but most MODs are legal in WOT so it cant be a cheat mod if the community can use it legally and others choose not too.

Atragon #12 Posted Jan 16 2019 - 13:15

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As long as players are pouring money into the game, wg is not failing no matter how much the MM sucks. And wg wont change diddly as long as the money keeps pouring in.

Edited by Atragon, Jan 16 2019 - 13:16.


GeorgePreddy #13 Posted Jan 16 2019 - 13:51

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View Posttanopasman62, on Jan 16 2019 - 05:10, said:

You just went full tinfoil.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



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This might just be the dumbest thing I've read in a long time on this forum. OP your last 1700 battles your average tier was 6.43 and you averaged 538 damage. The problem isn't mm it is your own game play. Mods aren't the problem in this game it's the crybabies that refuse to learn and improve their own play.

SlappedbyRommel #15 Posted Jan 16 2019 - 14:20

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I don't believe WG will ever fix the issues they make money on us spamming gold - been at lower tier 90% of the games I usually play T6 to T8 not good enough I think to get to 9 & 10 still learning not to die fast. What I find stats don't improve unless you win lol plus do as much damage as possible which last night was dismal teams completely sucked wow even if you survive to be the last one blasted away - so that is not the mods fault its the players who play?


 

However, if you are a T6 and find yourself against a T8 and cannot run away well your time is numbered just saying plus when gold is used at you in lower tiers well its interesting. I would like to have at least a fighting chance to win but at bottom of the 3,5,7 BS its damn hard to when you depend on others in upper tiers to their best and you try to do your best also  with what you have. One thing about playing against upper tiers is I play with caution trying to be as small a target as possible plus position better - still trying to find a way to get better.


 

 

As a protest I ended up putting a ticket in on MM and as of yet no response just wanted to see what WG would do? Well "yawn" still waiting for reply so I figure Wg has no interest in fixing it unless every player maybe puts in a service ticket but wait for it  "yawn" no reply at all I would bet.


 

One last thing I don't run mods could not be bothered but I do have platoon mates who do and when they say your team has a 22% chance of winning well you know it will be bad - just a note all the games in a 2 hour period on the central server were at projected wins at less than 35% last night so I don't know how match maker mixes it up but something smells of rotting fish and it ain't my cat lol.


Edited by SlappedbyRommel, Jan 16 2019 - 14:23.


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View PostKittens_on_a_stick, on Jan 16 2019 - 03:50, said:

 

Seriously!  How many 15-0 and 1-15 matches do you have to see before you acknowledge it isn't working?

Besides every damn illegal mod user in the game will tell you, "Mods don't really help. it's just skill."  If that's so; What's the problem?

 

Mods have nothing to do with blowout wins/losses.  The sooner you realize that nearly all mods are aesthetic, the better off you'll be.

Kittens_on_a_stick #17 Posted Jan 30 2019 - 07:19

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View Postblabberbottom, on Jan 16 2019 - 03:12, said:

This might just be the dumbest thing I've read in a long time on this forum. OP your last 1700 battles your average tier was 6.43 and you averaged 538 damage. The problem isn't mm it is your own game play. Mods aren't the problem in this game it's the crybabies that refuse to learn and improve their own play.

 

And what does your response have to do with the topic or any of the questions I posed?  Answer: Absolutely nothing.  Your idiocy is entertaining at best, but most likely deceitful in intent.  I will add this comment, ANYONE using "illegal" mods is a cripple that cannot compete in the game without them.  Take away their mods and they are perma-scrub potatoes.  Including you.

Kittens_on_a_stick #18 Posted Jan 30 2019 - 07:24

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View Postenjineer, on Jan 16 2019 - 04:26, said:

 

Mods have nothing to do with blowout wins/losses.  The sooner you realize that nearly all mods are aesthetic, the better off you'll be.

 

SERIOUSLY!!!  I'll ask the question AGAIN.  If mods don't make any difference then what difference would it make if they were included in the MM calculation?  Answer: NONE.  So why does it matter so damn much to mod users?




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