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Son__Of__Anarchy #1 Posted Jan 24 2019 - 11:34

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hello guys, any tips on how to do this?

i am trying it for 2 full days now and it gets me so frustrated..

 

i managed to get top scorer by exp a few times but my teamates just wont hit what i stun..

any tips on which arty better to use, which map i get more chances to do it, which targets better to pick..

ANYTHING..

 

thank you..



Son__Of__Anarchy #2 Posted Jan 24 2019 - 11:42

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the arties i have in my garage are

 

M53/M55

G.W. Tiger P (G.W. Tiger also researched and top moded yet not purchased..)

SU-14-1 and

Lorraine 155 mle. 50

 

all top moded and equiped with gun rammer and gun laying drive..

 



Cpt_Zapp_Brannigan #3 Posted Jan 24 2019 - 12:03

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Target full health tanks, aim between a cluster of tanks to maximize splash and stun damage and keep firing away. Splash tanks behind cover and use the ammo with the highest splash radius. It took me a few tries as well to get all the requirements met in the same battle

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View PostCpt_Zapp_Brannigan, on Jan 24 2019 - 12:03, said:

Target full health tanks, aim between a cluster of tanks to maximize splash and stun damage and keep firing away. Splash tanks behind cover and use the ammo with the highest splash radius. It took me a few tries as well to get all the requirements met in the same battle

 

i give priority on hitting full health tanks, that i do already.. in often cases i skip "kills" in trade to stun a "fuller" tank.. and even being carefull not to do them much damage so my mates can do instead.. didnt work so far..

my mates either wont hit at all the tank i stunned, or they hit him too late.. 

 

edit: and yes, in fact i am trying to stun as many tanks with one shot whenever i can..

        though most the maps in the game are not arty friendly..


Edited by Son__Of__Anarchy, Jan 24 2019 - 12:13.


Son__Of__Anarchy #5 Posted Jan 24 2019 - 12:15

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heck, i can show you battles where i stunned enemies for over 200 secs and got under 500 assisted damage.. LOL

 

edit: that was a few days back, when i was trying to do another mission which wanting me to stun enemies for over 185 secs or something..


Edited by Son__Of__Anarchy, Jan 24 2019 - 12:18.


PuddleSplasher #6 Posted Jan 24 2019 - 12:26

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I completed it in my Su8.

 

There was never any thoughts about completing any missions therefore I didn't hang around and playing for 2 days solid as SonOfAnarchy did.

 

Many of my missions have been completed inthis fashion you simply play as you normally do and "Bingo" your mission almost self completes.

 

The more I play a single tank to deliberately try for a mission then the more frustrated I became as we all know I cannot expect the Public to assist in my missions.

 

Forget trying is the best option and simply play your normal game.



Son__Of__Anarchy #7 Posted Jan 24 2019 - 12:30

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View PostPuddleSplasher, on Jan 24 2019 - 12:26, said:

I completed it in my Su8.

 

There was never any thoughts about completing any missions therefore I didn't hang around and playing for 2 days solid as SonOfAnarchy did.

 

Many of my missions have been completed inthis fashion you simply play as you normally do and "Bingo" your mission almost self completes.

 

The more I play a single tank to deliberately try for a mission then the more frustrated I became as we all know I cannot expect the Public to assist in my missions.

 

Forget trying is the best option and simply play your normal game.

 

the problem with this way is in my case will never get those SPG missions done..

simply because i trully hate playing arty and ONLY do for missions..

i mean i cant play tanks i enjoy and get my SPG missions done.. just impossible..

i have to be completelly dedicated on my target when i do SPG missions..

 

edit: i was thinking to try tier VI too.. my M44.. but i see my mates wont do 2500dmg in high tiers and with big guns when i constantly stun enemies for 100-130 secs per battle..

        how would they do it in tier VI when i stun enemies for 6-7 secs instead 15-20 per shot and my mates can deal 100-200 damage instead 300-500 per shot?


Edited by Son__Of__Anarchy, Jan 24 2019 - 12:40.


V_A_C_A #8 Posted Jan 24 2019 - 12:57

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You don't have to complete both task on a single match.

Do the secondary task with the M53/M55 and then go for the primary.
I wouldn't recomend to use neither the GW Tiger P, or the SU-14-1 or the Lorraine 155 50.

For the primary task, the M44 is a good choice.
GW Panther, too.
Also the M53/M55.
As PuddleSplasher testified, the SU-8 can do the job.

Yes, you'll need to wait untill a nice suitable map appears. You'll have hard time to accomplish the mission on Ensk, Himmelsdorf, Ruinberg (on city maps), but you'll have a nice chance if Prokhorovka, Malinovka, Murovanka, Sand River or El Haluf appears. Then it's a matter of the team helps you out on the mission (if the team is too good, you're screwed. If the team is too bad, you're screwed).

Cpt_Zapp_Brannigan #9 Posted Jan 24 2019 - 13:10

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I think I did the mission with honours using my 212A. 

View PostV_A_C_A, on Jan 24 2019 - 06:57, said:

You don't have to complete both task on a single match.

Do the secondary task with the M53/M55 and then go for the primary.

I wouldn't recomend to use neither the GW Tiger P, or the SU-14-1 or the Lorraine 155 50.

For the primary task, the M44 is a good choice.
GW Panther, too.
Also the M53/M55.
As PuddleSplasher testified, the SU-8 can do the job.

Yes, you'll need to wait untill a nice suitable map appears. You'll have hard time to accomplish the mission on Ensk, Himmelsdorf, Ruinberg (on city maps), but you'll have a nice chance if Prokhorovka, Malinovka, Murovanka, Sand River or El Haluf appears. Then it's a matter of the team helps you out on the mission (if the team is too good, you're screwed. If the team is too bad, you're screwed).

 

you have me confused......primary conditions must be completed first, do they not? AFIK it all has to be done in the same battle to be completed with honours

Son__Of__Anarchy #10 Posted Jan 24 2019 - 13:13

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View PostV_A_C_A, on Jan 24 2019 - 12:57, said:

You don't have to complete both task on a single match.

Do the secondary task with the M53/M55 and then go for the primary.
I wouldn't recomend to use neither the GW Tiger P, or the SU-14-1 or the Lorraine 155 50.

For the primary task, the M44 is a good choice.
GW Panther, too.
Also the M53/M55.
As PuddleSplasher testified, the SU-8 can do the job.

Yes, you'll need to wait untill a nice suitable map appears. You'll have hard time to accomplish the mission on Ensk, Himmelsdorf, Ruinberg (on city maps), but you'll have a nice chance if Prokhorovka, Malinovka, Murovanka, Sand River or El Haluf appears. Then it's a matter of the team helps you out on the mission (if the team is too good, you're screwed. If the team is too bad, you're screwed).

 

the primary target is to get top scorer by exp earned AND enable your allies to cause 2500dmg to enemies by stunning or immobilizing.. (for the part and the female crew member..)

the secondary target is to cause 3000dmg myself and win a battle.. (for the honors and 250K credits..)

 

and yes, ALL of it together has to get done in the same battle..



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View PostSon__Of__Anarchy, on Jan 24 2019 - 09:13, said:

 

the primary target is to get top scorer by exp earned AND enable your allies to cause 2500dmg to enemies by stunning or immobilizing.. (for the part and the female crew member..)

the secondary target is to cause 3000dmg myself and win a battle.. (for the honors and 250K credits..)

 

and yes, ALL of it together has to get done in the same battle..

 

If the primary isn't fullfilled, but you reached the secondary goal, it's counted as good (for the secondary).
Then you can fully focus on the primary.

The M53/M55 is the one that can fullfill the primary.

Cpt_Zapp_Brannigan #12 Posted Jan 24 2019 - 13:25

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View PostV_A_C_A, on Jan 24 2019 - 07:21, said:

 

If the primary isn't fullfilled, but you reached the secondary goal, it's counted as good (for the secondary).
Then you can fully focus on the primary.

The M53/M55 is the one that can fullfill the primary.

 

didn't know that and haven't seen that pop up in any battle result of mine. If that's true, if you look at the OP pic...shows a lock. Means it can't be unlocked until primary is completed in my eyes.....

I have some battles where I have achieved the secondary results before the primary have been completed. Then when I pass the primary I still haven't passed with honours. 


Edited by Cpt_Zapp_Brannigan, Jan 24 2019 - 13:31.


V_A_C_A #13 Posted Jan 24 2019 - 13:27

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3k damage you can deal by yourself. It's not that hard. Get rid of this part asap.

2.5k of ASSISTED damage it's hard. You need the team for that. And you know when you need the team, sometimes it doesn't happen.

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Ok... Sorry... Now I figured there's no "secondary".

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View PostV_A_C_A, on Jan 24 2019 - 07:27, said:

3k damage you can deal by yourself. It's not that hard. Get rid of this part asap.

2.5k of ASSISTED damage it's hard. You need the team for that. And you know when you need the team, sometimes it doesn't happen.

 

You are confused. The OP is referring to the first set of missions (T55A to be exact), which need to have the primary done first. You don't even have to do the secondary, but if you do, you must do the primary too.

 

What you are explaining and referencing is the second set of missions where you can do secondaries without doing the primary.

 

EDIT: And you ninja'd me, lol.


Edited by GenPanzer, Jan 24 2019 - 13:30.


Son__Of__Anarchy #16 Posted Jan 24 2019 - 13:33

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View PostV_A_C_A, on Jan 24 2019 - 13:21, said:

 

If the primary isn't fullfilled, but you reached the secondary goal, it's counted as good (for the secondary).
Then you can fully focus on the primary.

The M53/M55 is the one that can fullfill the primary.

 

i did not know that.. nothing indicates that you can do that.. have you done it?

i mean for all the other missions i did (X-15s included) you have to fullfill the primary and secondary conditions in the same battle.. or it wouldnt grand you the honors..

 

anyhow, i am mostly concentrated on primary target.. just to get done with the part.. just my mates wont hit what i stun..

makes me think i am maybe stunning the wrong targets, that maybe my mates dont see them.. but how could I see them and them not? i mean i only see what THEY see..

they even failing to hit stunned tanks when i stun 2-3-4 tanks with a single shot.. which normally almost everyone else could see..

 

 



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View PostGenPanzer, on Jan 24 2019 - 13:29, said:

 

You are confused. The OP is referring to the first set of missions (T55A to be exact), which need to have the primary done first. You don't even have to do the secondary, but if you do, you must do the primary too.

 

What you are explaining and referencing is the second set of missions where you can do secondaries without doing the primary.

 

EDIT: And you ninja'd me, lol.

 

yeah, ofcourse..

unless we are talking for second front campaign where you can definitelly do that..

 

but in fact yes, i am talking about first front and T 55A operation..



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big problem is that once you stun a tank, they may instantly undo it by using a med kit.. and untill i am reloaded, they are dead already so i dont get a second chance with them..

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View PostSon__Of__Anarchy, on Jan 24 2019 - 09:41, said:

big problem is that once you stun a tank, they may instantly undo it by using a med kit.. and untill i am reloaded, they are dead already so i dont get a second chance with them..

 

Yep. This happens a lot.
Some missions are easy, some are hard.
I knew that the "15" would be hard.
As I've said: you have to wait for the right map and for the right team.

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well, one thing is sure..

WG could do much better arranging those missions..

 

i finished 3 operations so far, 2 in first front and 1 in second front (with all honors) and i am 2 steps away from finishing the T 55A operation (SPG-15 and TD-15 only ones left..)

and so far on my way, i found out that in at least half of those missions, your personal skill is NOT enough to complete them.. you NEED your teamates to do things for you so you get your missions done.. 

this is NOT personal missions..

 

i wish WG would some day make those "personal" missions really personal, and based JUST on player's skill and NOT teamwork..

 

edit: at least for the primary target..


Edited by Son__Of__Anarchy, Jan 24 2019 - 14:38.





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