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robyone #1 Posted Jan 25 2019 - 16:38

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It’s disappointing to see that WG doesn’t care about the game, the still awful +2 -2 match making WG know it is broken, they said they going to fix it, but still the same situation 6 months later still is very bad.

The balance of the battles is awful, you see teams full of tomatoes against team that are more yellow or green  usually ending in less than 5 minutes 15 to 0 ,  obviously WG does provide the % of wining of  the players, they  hide this information in the battle,  which is critical to balance the games but as usual WG don’t use it or don’t care.

Usually, always in the same side of the map, they fix it 1 year ago, but know is broken again!!!

The game is losing players at a steady pace, know they want to merge servers because you know THEY ARE LOSING A LOT OF PLAYERS, the WG experience is awful and getting worse, because you know more power creep tanks like IS3A.

I predict this year world of tanks won’t be relevant for online games because of this, and a Reta..company that does not understand their flaws o care about their customer.

I Know there is a bunch of clown’s bloggers that WG pay to said I am wrong, but I don’t care, look at your results less players on line, no many new players because you now WG NEW PLAYER EXPERIENCE SUC….  And now you know merging servers because you now we are shrinking…

I hope some other company buy the game and make a better experience for players. Because now WG is beyond redeem.

 

See this videos of GREAT PLAYERS  who talk about the game, see the video and then tell me i am wrong

 

https://www.youtube....o7NNDik&t=87s  

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=IVJ68qcDdhw

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=nNKppIPKVUo

 

 


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_Tsavo_ #2 Posted Jan 25 2019 - 16:42

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I agree the new player experience is rather poor  and that the playerbase is slowly decreasing and disagree with basically everything else.  

 

Nuke templates and +/-2 will be fine.



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As it is very apparent that the only thing wargaming really cares is selling premium stuff of any kind until the cow (game) is dead.

The matchmaking, RNG and map rotation are utter horse manure and nothing has been done about it.

Wargaming told all of us that they needed six (6) month to come up with a solution for the matchmaking.

The six month were up last week and nothing has been presented to the player community....Smile_sad.gif



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View Post_Schneller_Heinz_, on Jan 25 2019 - 15:43, said:

As it is very apparent that the only thing wargaming really cares is selling premium stuff of any kind until the cow (game) is dead.

The matchmaking, RNG and map rotation are utter horse manure and nothing has been done about it.

Wargaming told all of us that they needed six (6) month to come up with a solution for the matchmaking.

The six month were up last week and nothing has been presented to the player community....Smile_sad.gif

 

EXACTLY 6 MONTHS AND WG DONT CARE, THATS WHY I POST THIS, THE DON'T KEEP THEIR PROMISES 

AverageWannabe #5 Posted Jan 25 2019 - 16:52

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How dumb can they be? They are shooting themselves in the foot 24/7.

 

I for once was quite willing to spend money in the game, heck, i've already spent well over 300 dollars since I created my account two months ago. But since I began to realize how broken the game is and how they only care about the money grabbing and give a sump about their customer's satisfaction I stopped buying stuff. Not giving my money away for that crap, though I have plenty.

 

Still like the game (to some extent), still play it, but every day that passes i like the game a little less.... and I KNOW i am going to quit at some point, maybe in a month or two?

 

The game is bound to die the way it is. 100%

 


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Dockmaster #6 Posted Jan 25 2019 - 16:55

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Another victim of XVM. I do not understand why WG allows this toxic program into the game.

 

No XVM means no reds,oranges,yellows,greens, blues or purples. Assume everyone is as good or better than you.

 

IGNORANCE IS BLISS.



Desert_Fox_1969 #7 Posted Jan 25 2019 - 16:55

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Tweak MM, remove 3/5/7, tweak RNG and game will be fine. 

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View PostAverageWannabe, on Jan 25 2019 - 10:52, said:

How dumb can they be? They are shooting themselves in the foot 24/7.

 

I for once was quite willing to spend money in the game, heck, i've already spent well over 300 dollars since I created my account two months ago. But since I began to realize how broken the game is and how they only care about the money grabbing and give a sump about their customer's satisfaction I stopped buying stuff. Not giving my money away for that crap, though I have plenty.

 

Still like the game (to some extent), still play it, but every day that passes i like the game a little less.... and I KNOW i am going to quit at some point, maybe in a month or two?

 

The game is bound to die the way it is. 100%

 

 

If this is your main account I see your frustration. You are playing in tiers above where you should play and that is purely your own fault. Stay in lower tiers until you grasp some of the concepts of the game. 

AverageWannabe #9 Posted Jan 25 2019 - 17:03

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View PostDesert_Fox_1969, on Jan 25 2019 - 12:58, said:

 

If this is your main account I see your frustration. You are playing in tiers above where you should play and that is purely your own fault. Stay in lower tiers until you grasp some of the concepts of the game. 

 

nah man.... not going down in tier. The level of stupidity down there is even worse... I can't learn crap in the low tiers and that's not fun at all for me.

 

I prefer to play along with the 2 or 3 good players per match in the upper tiers (cause the rest is even worse than me most of the times) so I can learn a thing or two.



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Agree with Tsavo and Desert Fox re: templates. 

 

And the last I "heard" from WG they are going to introduce more templates to get bottom tiered folks out of 3/5/7 80 percent of the time.  So that in and of itself is an admission 3/5/7 has issues to put it mildly.

 

From their New in 2019 article or whatever they titled it, additional templates are proposed.  In addition to the 15/0, 5/10 and 3/5/7 they're considering:

  • For two tier matches 6/9 and 7/8
  • For three tier spreads 4/5/6 and 5/5/5

 

Don't see how that's going to noticeably help being bottom tiered "80% of the time" which is their ciphering.  Unless the "extra"  one or two bottom tier tanks they pull from 5/10 and 3/5/7 means those one or two tanks won't be on the bottom anymore.  At the expense of those that are still on the bottom having more top tiers and less equal tiered tanks to face because of the adjustments.



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I get tired of the no-way-to-win games too.  I used to just leave them quickly but now that I'm in a good clan, I try to do some stupid farming at least - even though that bugs and bores the poop out of me.  I'm almost at the point again of just leaving early.  I mean Wargaming doesn't want me to win those battles so who am I to deny them from what they want? :amazed:

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View Post_Tsavo_, on Jan 25 2019 - 11:42, said:

Nuke templates and +/-2 will be fine.

 

You think if we switch to +/-1 we won't need any templates, or are you saying we'll just need new/different templates?  You don't want one team to have 15 Tier X, while the other team only has 3 Tier X, right?

AverageWannabe #13 Posted Jan 25 2019 - 17:13

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View Postheavymetal1967, on Jan 25 2019 - 13:04, said:

Agree with Tsavo and Desert Fox re: templates. 

 

And the last I "heard" from WG they are going to introduce more templates to get bottom tiered folks out of 3/5/7 80 percent of the time.  So that in and of itself is an admission 3/5/7 has issues to put it mildly.

 

From their New in 2019 article or whatever they titled it, additional templates are proposed.  In addition to the 15/0, 5/10 and 3/5/7 they're considering:

  • For two tier matches 6/9 and 7/8
  • For three tier spreads 4/5/6 and 5/5/5

 

Don't see how that's going to noticeably help being bottom tiered "80% of the time" which is their ciphering.  Unless the "extra"  one or two bottom tier tanks they pull from 5/10 and 3/5/7 means those one or two tanks won't be on the bottom anymore.  At the expense of those that are still on the bottom having more top tiers and less equal tiered tanks to face because of the adjustments.

 

4/5/6 and 5/5/5 is going to be even worse... now with the 3/5/7 template at least we have 7 same tier tanks to hit.

 

What they need to do is to get rid of +2/-2 altogether, for good. But then that means less easy money grabbing, so they are not going to implement it. Thats the dumb part, they are destroying the game for the short term income.

 

The WG business managers are really ..... well.... can't say. I guess they only work with the russian customer mentality in mind.... the russian customer doesn't complain, they just accept what's on the dish no matter if it's rotten.


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Thanks for sharing.  Good luck with your search for the perfect game :great:.

 

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View PostDockmaster, on Jan 25 2019 - 09:55, said:

Another victim of XVM. I do not understand why WG allows this toxic program into the game.

 

No XVM means no reds,oranges,yellows,greens, blues or purples. Assume everyone is as good or better than you.

 

IGNORANCE IS BLISS.

 

They do it to make you mad and so you will throw a tantrum about it, mission accomplished 

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View Postmoogleslam, on Jan 25 2019 - 11:08, said:

 

You think if we switch to +/-1 we won't need any templates, or are you saying we'll just need new/different templates?  You don't want one team to have 15 Tier X, while the other team only has 3 Tier X, right?

 

Basically, get rid of the rigid adherence to certain tier counts.  Keep the balance of tier counts as I recall the biggest complaint being "Well, crap, they have 10 tier X and we have 4" 

 

So you can have any combination of tier counts on your team.   1/1/14, 1/2/13, 14/1, 13/1/1, 3/3/9, 9/3/3, and so on.  Whatever one team gets in tier, the other gets.  While maintaining the similar balance of within 1 for the balanced classes, like TDs, etc.  3/5/7 is basically "LOL, have fun enjoying bottom tier all the time" for too many tiers and I never felt like I was always bottom tier.  I think the only big complaint was tier imbalance between teams.  

 

 



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View Post_Tsavo_, on Jan 25 2019 - 10:24, said:

 

Basically, get rid of the rigid adherence to certain tier counts.  Keep the balance of tier counts as I recall the biggest complaint being "Well, crap, they have 10 tier X and we have 4" 

 

So you can have any combination of tier counts on your team.   1/1/14, 1/2/13, 14/1, 13/1/1, 3/3/9, 9/3/3, and so on.  Whatever one team gets in tier, the other gets.  While maintaining the similar balance of within 1 for the balanced classes, like TDs, etc.  3/5/7 is basically "LOL, have fun enjoying bottom tier all the time" for too many tiers and I never felt like I was always bottom tier.  I think the only big complaint was tier imbalance between teams.  

 

 

 

Not just tier imbalance class imbalance as well has been a huge issue

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I think what they need to implement is skill based MM based on players rating (i know statt padders are going to hate it since many will lose their dear wn8 purple status, but fk'em! ...cause they are the ones guilty of ruining the noob's game experience) That way each team will have an equal chance to win and you will be able to play with better players as you get better.

 

This crap of being forced to play along with nine or ten decerebrated monkeys that rush into death during the first two minutes game after game after game is just fkn unbearable.... let the monkeys play with the monkeys, the average with the average and the good with the good. Make the game fair and healthy!


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There is no way to "fix" teams that have more tomatoes vs teams with more unicums. It is just going to be that way and nothing WG can do about it. The teams are randomly picked. It's already been discussed to death that teams based on numbers from XVM or win/loss (skill-based MM) aren't going to work. You will just end up with a "socialism" fix of all players just being "average" and nobody will be happy. I'm still baffled that people can't do well in 3/5/7 matchmaking. If you are bottom tier, you still have seven tanks in the same boat as you. Those are the tanks you should be going after. And if you are bottom tier and try and go after top tier tanks, then that is on you. Stop trying to be "Jack the Giant Killer". Even the 5 tanks that are above you can at least be damaged, if not destroyed. Remembering the old way they had it where one side had eight tier 10 heavies, and my team had one-two tier 8 heavies, I'll take this current 3/5/7 in a hearbeat.

 

I see lots of complaining, but not ONE viable solution being offered by those doing the complaining. If it's so easy to fix, how about one of you complainers telling us HOW.


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They need to balance the matches using skill as well.
The main reason for the blow out matches is the luck of one team having all highly skilled players.
That being said.. I'll stop playing for weeks.. come back to see how things are and leave again for weeks.
I don't mind spending a little cash but I don't even bother getting a premium account anymore because I know I'll play at most a few days and retire again for a month or more.




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