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94EXPOS #1 Posted Feb 03 2019 - 04:03

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Haven't played tourneys in a few months. Looked at payouts for 7 v 7 +1.

8750 gold for 1st.....not great but over 1K per player....I can live with that.

2500 gold for 2nd??   Wow what a drop from 1st.  Just over 400 gold per player??   Pretty sad.

875 gold for 3rd?? Really?? Just over 110 gold per player for 3rd place???

 

Why?? Why are the payouts so pathetic other than 1st place? Never used to be like this. 

 



Ortinoth_ #2 Posted Feb 03 2019 - 04:11

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be glad tourneys are back instead of complaining - the payout is just fine- play better get first place. And actually remember all tourney's were ended when the League was canceled 

StossSturm #3 Posted Feb 03 2019 - 04:27

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This game still has CW right? Been afk for a while

yruputin #4 Posted Feb 03 2019 - 06:08

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View PostOrtinoth_, on Feb 03 2019 - 04:11, said:

be glad tourneys are back instead of complaining - the payout is just fine- play better get first place. And actually remember all tourney's were ended when the League was canceled 

 

yeah i also see they are back to taking their time to pay them. wow might need you.

94EXPOS #5 Posted Feb 03 2019 - 15:36

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Ortinoth is the type of player that Wargaming loves. They give you way less and he thinks it's the best thing that's ever happened. You get shafted and he thinks we should all be thrilled. Some people are as clueless as could possibly be.  

Edited by 94EXPOS, Feb 03 2019 - 15:36.


airdevilsinn #6 Posted Feb 03 2019 - 16:28

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GOLD SHARING SUCKS! ITS A SUCKY WAY TO PAY OUT

cavalry11 #7 Posted Feb 03 2019 - 16:56

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WG only wants money to go 1 way to them

 



Ash_Canadian #8 Posted Feb 03 2019 - 18:18

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I disagree with your title. Gold payouts are fine. I get payed out fairly quickly after placing in the tournaments.

 

It is the gold prizing that is broken. Gold prize per person should be reasonable for tier; First place prize should be no less than 750 gold for tier 2-5, 1000-1500 gold for tier 6-8, 1500-2500 for tier 9-10. The MIMIMUM someone should get as a gold prize for 3rd or 4th place should be 100-250 per person based upon tier.

 

This crap of giving out 2000 gold for first place in a 3 player team to win at tier 5 is complete garbage. Last night's 1v1 at tier 6 first place prize - 600 gold...PA-THE-TIC!!!

 

Speaking of pathetic, tier IX, 7v7 tournament pays out 8750 gold for first place.....


Edited by Ash_Canadian, Feb 03 2019 - 20:49.


94EXPOS #9 Posted Feb 04 2019 - 22:02

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Pretty much agree with Ash. Technically the title of my post is worded  incorrectly. I don't necessarily agree that lower tiered tourneys should be worth less. Basically 1st place should be worth at least 1K gold per player including reserve(s). 2nd place at least 750 gold per player, 3rd place at least 500 gold per player and 4th place 250 gold per player. Very simple and fair formula. 

 

Another example is the 5 v 5 Feb 10th tier 5 tourney.

1st at 5 K divided by 6 is less than 850 gold each - Not great by any stretch but passable. 

2nd at 2500 again by 6 is just over 400 - pretty pathetic for 2nd place. 

3rd at 800 by 6  is just over 125 gold per player    COME ON MAN!

4th at 250 is just over 40 gold per player.   OUCH!

5th is ONE 50% credit     a measly 1 PR???    Is that also divided by 6 which would make the PR at 8% credit??

 

Basically what this type of top end weighted payouts will do is make these tournaments a total waste of time for anyone but the high end Unicum teams who have players at 8K + Personal Ratings. Everyone else should not bother to play, and then only the Super Unicum teams can fight it out among themselves for 1st place. Keep in mind that Gold payouts in tournaments cost Wargaming absolutely NOTHING. The only argument to this is that Wargaming assumes that by paying out more gold, players (customers) would otherwise have emptied their wallets and paid out real money to Wargaming to purchase gold.  I know that for me personally this is a completely false assumption. I believe that players that bother to play tournaments are usually not the customers that are willing to pay Wargaming real $$ for premium time and tanks etc etc. The paying customers likely can't be bothered with tournaments as they probably have deep pockets and just buy whatever they want. 


Edited by 94EXPOS, Feb 04 2019 - 22:19.


RoyalGreenPC #10 Posted Feb 04 2019 - 22:39

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While I am grateful that they brought tournaments back, I have to agree with OP. 1-2 months ago they were giving 1200 bonds for 1st place to each player, now we get less than 1200 gold for similar result.

I still do some of the tournaments for fun, but most of them are not worth it.



RagnarokBazil #11 Posted Feb 05 2019 - 06:42

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View Post94EXPOS, on Feb 02 2019 - 22:03, said:

Haven't played tourneys in a few months. Looked at payouts for 7 v 7 +1.

8750 gold for 1st.....not great but over 1K per player....I can live with that.

2500 gold for 2nd??   Wow what a drop from 1st.  Just over 400 gold per player??   Pretty sad.

875 gold for 3rd?? Really?? Just over 110 gold per player for 3rd place???

 

Why?? Why are the payouts so pathetic other than 1st place? Never used to be like this. 

 

 

Best way would be: 7v7 tier 8+ tournament winnings.

1st 17,000 gold, 1700 bonds. x30: 50% Credit booster (gold and bonds are split, The boosters are given that amount per person)

2nd 14,000 gold, 1400 bonds. x20: 50% Credit booster (gold and bonds are split, The boosters are given that amount per person)

3rd 12,000 gold, 1200 bonds. x20: 25% Credit booster (gold and bonds are split, The boosters are given that amount per person)

4th 10,000 gold, 1000 bonds. x15: 25% Credit booster (gold and bonds are split, The boosters are given that amount per person)

5th 8,000 gold, 800 bonds. x15: 25% Credit booster (gold and bonds are split, The boosters are given that amount per person)

6th 6,000 gold, 600 bonds. x15: 25% Credit booster (gold and bonds are split, The boosters are given that amount per person)

7th 5,000 gold, 500 bonds. x10: 25% Credit booster (gold and bonds are split, The boosters are given that amount per person)

8th 3,000 gold, 300 bonds. x10: 25% Credit booster (gold and bonds are split, The boosters are given that amount per person)

9th and below till 50th place get: 2000 gold, 200 bonds. x10: 10% Credit boosters. (gold and bonds are split, The boosters are given that amount per person)

50th and below till last place get: 1000, 100 bonds. x5: 10% Credit boosters. (gold and bonds are split, The boosters are given that amount per person)

 

who agrees?


Edited by RagnarokBazil, Feb 05 2019 - 07:04.


94EXPOS #12 Posted Feb 05 2019 - 16:52

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Dream On Ragnarok.  Looks Great but no one at Wargaming would ever agree to this. 

RagnarokBazil #13 Posted Feb 05 2019 - 17:12

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View Post94EXPOS, on Feb 05 2019 - 10:52, said:

Dream On Ragnarok.  Looks Great but no one at Wargaming would ever agree to this. 

 

It dont cost them anything as gold is just Pixels

Harvester_0f_Sorrow #14 Posted Feb 06 2019 - 23:40

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Yes that payout sounds bad.

SomethingCanadianEh #15 Posted Feb 07 2019 - 21:58

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You do realize you're getting essentially free gold right? 

There is no entry cost. 

Be thankful they offer any gold 



dance210 #16 Posted Feb 08 2019 - 18:27

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View PostRagnarokBazil, on Feb 05 2019 - 09:12, said:

 

It dont cost them anything as gold is just Pixels

 

You're so cute! Everything in a virtual game can be assigned a cost ;)

sector7ge #17 Posted Feb 08 2019 - 20:55

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View Postdance210, on Feb 08 2019 - 14:27, said:

 

You're so cute! Everything in a virtual game can be assigned a cost ;)

 

hey! :great:  when are coming back organizing tourneys Dance?

94EXPOS #18 Posted Feb 08 2019 - 21:45

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I dont know who has been making the decisions on tourney gold payouts but I agree 100%....Dance we miss you so much when tourneys were worth playing, YOU were running things ,,, and everything ran so much smoother as well. 

airdevilsinn #19 Posted Feb 09 2019 - 16:04

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well the lack of anyone in charge answering or even making a attempt to answer any questions tells us what they think of us

dance210 #20 Posted Feb 09 2019 - 19:18

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View Postsector7ge, on Feb 08 2019 - 12:55, said:

 

hey! :great:  when are coming back organizing tourneys Dance?

 

Hi! As soon as y'all can convince them to let me run tournaments remotely ;) <3

 

View Post94EXPOS, on Feb 08 2019 - 13:45, said:

I dont know who has been making the decisions on tourney gold payouts but I agree 100%....Dance we miss you so much when tourneys were worth playing, YOU were running things ,,, and everything ran so much smoother as well. 

 

Aww I miss you guys too! <3

Running the tournaments was amazing and you guys all rock! I haven't played in any since leaving WG (I haz no team, sniff) but I'm happy that they are at least running something for you guys....you deserve to enjoy the competition from tournament play





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