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Poll: Official 2019 WT auf E100/Grille 15 poll (49 members have cast votes)

Replace the Grille 15 with the WT auf E100 (The way it used to be, except nerfed)

  1. Yes (26 votes [53.06%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 53.06%

  2. Voted No (23 votes [46.94%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 46.94%

Replace the Grille 15 with a more appropriate replacement for the WT auf E100

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    Percentage of vote: 48.98%

  2. Voted No (25 votes [51.02%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 51.02%

Keep Things The way they are/Unsure

  1. Voted Yes, keep things the way they are (16 votes [32.65%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 32.65%

  2. Im Unsure... (33 votes [67.35%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 67.35%

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hungariantank123 #1 Posted Feb 06 2019 - 09:31

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So i've seen a lot of forum posts about the WT auf E100 and i have finally come to the conclusion to make a forum post about it myself.

 

Easily the most controversial tank when it was still in the game, however i cannot ignore the fact that Wargaming explicitly said that the WT auf E100 'CANNOT BE BALANCED' which i believe is complete rubbish, however the tank which replaced the WT auf E100 is indeed a tank which was actually in blueprints and not a fictional tank like the WT auf e100 was. 

 

Uproar....

 

Many of you who logged on the day of the WT auf e100's removal were probably quite shocked when you saw that your hard earned WT auf E100 was removed from the game and you were instead given a tin can, granted some of you have had your fair share of epic games where you hit beyond 8,000 damage in a battle however the Grille 15 isn't all that great for example, its armour is basically non existent, the turret traverse angles is poor when compared to the tier IX WT auf Pz.4 and its gun is debatable. 

 

To the FV215b (183) owners,

 

You guys can consider yourselves extremely lucky, you guys got to keep a TD that is able to do more or less damage as the WT auf E100. The FV215b (183) has armour and an OP  gun (310mm pen with normal AP rounds...), the WT auf E100 had no armour, and a large silhouette, granted that the WT auf E100 has a crazy gun but the WT auf E100 will only be as good as the enemy team lets it to be, unfortunately random teams a lot of the time don't co-ordinate well and therefor these two death stars can wreak everyone on the battlefield. 

 

Thanks for your time for reading my post and best of Luck on the battlefield!

 

Hungariantank123 [IKU2]

 

 


Edited by hungariantank123, Feb 06 2019 - 13:25.


The_Diadect #2 Posted Feb 06 2019 - 09:42

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no.

I understand the grill sucks, but the wtfe100 sucks for everyone else



SirShakes #3 Posted Feb 06 2019 - 09:47

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Tilith_10IQ #4 Posted Feb 06 2019 - 10:06

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I want them to bring the WT e100 back but without the autoloader or with the italian  autoreloader

cKy_ #5 Posted Feb 06 2019 - 10:08

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Say otherwise all you like, but it can't be balanced. A tank with such a huge turret with so little armour needs an OP gun to make up for it (see FV4005), and since it's on a German super accurate snipe line, it needs to have a super accurate sniper gun. And that tank with a single shot gun like the Jagtiger or Grille just wouldn't work, thus the autoloader. Except the autoloader is OP, and the only real way to nerf it is the accuracy and soft stats, but as said earlier, it needs to have a super accurate sniper gun.

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View PostcKy_, on Feb 06 2019 - 10:08, said:

Say otherwise all you like, but it can't be balanced. A tank with such a huge turret with so little armour needs an OP gun to make up for it (see FV4005), and since it's on a German super accurate snipe line, it needs to have a super accurate sniper gun. And that tank with a single shot gun like the Jagtiger or Grille just wouldn't work, thus the autoloader. Except the autoloader is OP, and the only real way to nerf it is the accuracy and soft stats, but as said earlier, it needs to have a super accurate sniper gun.

 

or give it the italian autoreloader, I believe it could be well balanced with a 4 shot clip for the 128 and 3 shot for the 150.

hungariantank123 #7 Posted Feb 06 2019 - 10:22

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View PostcKy_, on Feb 06 2019 - 19:08, said:

Say otherwise all you like, but it can't be balanced. A tank with such a huge turret with so little armour needs an OP gun to make up for it (see FV4005), and since it's on a German super accurate snipe line, it needs to have a super accurate sniper gun. And that tank with a single shot gun like the Jagtiger or Grille just wouldn't work, thus the autoloader. Except the autoloader is OP, and the only real way to nerf it is the accuracy and soft stats, but as said earlier, it needs to have a super accurate sniper gun.

 

the WT auf E100 is a HUGE target, and only unskilled players cry about the bloody thing, as for the Italian Auto-loading system it seems like a good idea.

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View Posthungariantank123, on Feb 06 2019 - 21:22, said:

 

the WT auf E100 is a HUGE target, and only unskilled players cry about the bloody thing, as for the Italian Auto-loading system it seems like a good idea.

 

Only unskilled players cry about it? Actually, I think you'll find that the exact opposite is true. It's only the unskilled players that want it to be reimplemented into the game. Example, you. 

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View PostcKy_, on Feb 06 2019 - 10:36, said:

 

Only unskilled players cry about it? Actually, I think you'll find that the exact opposite is true. It's only the unskilled players that want it to be reimplemented into the game. Example, you. 

 

I wanted to check to see if you played the WTe100, can you link me to your non-reroll original account? 

Edited by Tilith_10IQ, Feb 06 2019 - 11:12.


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the WT E100 was a horrible mess of a tank.

The thing was giant being based on the Hull of the E100 and its turret made it exceptionally difficult to hide the thing on most maps, wich was a must given the turret only had at most 8mm of armor.

 

Due to that it was exceptionally vulnerable to HE fire of all sources, personally i use to enjoy clubbing anyone driving them in arty or my 268, excluding the rare bounce off the turret the hull was the only part that had any sort of effective armor, but that came at the cost of any sort of reasonable mobility and a distinct lack of cammo values, but was compensated with having one of if not the highest base view range in the game at between 410-420m base view range, which with a 100% BIA crew with other relevant spotting skills and Binos well and truly capped out the view range allowing it to sit at the back of maps with near impunity.

 

That insane View Range meant it could out spot most opponents given scout tanks in the time didn't go over tier 5 so finding the thing in the hands of someone who know how to use and abuse bush mechanics could utterly wreck anything coming at it with a near 3k damage per reload out put after it was initially nerfed thankfully its reload was around 1 min on either gun

 

So the WT E100 was a literal Glass Cannon, Extremely Dangerous yet very Fragile.

 

Personally i hope to never see anything like it make its way into the game, though i would also like to see something that follows the line abit more aptly than the Grille 15, while dangerous in its own right, it suffers from several of the same problems the WT E100 mainly due to its over all size making it difficult to hide and having a gun shield that might as well not even be on the machine for all the good it does sort of being an HE target, where as its predecessors the Rhm borsig and WR Pz.4 are not famed for being overly endowed with speed and armor, they are very stealthy and hard hitting TDs

 

The Grille 15 being reasonably mobile being on a panther hull maked sense, along with its fire power, just not the fact its a giant target as the panther hull is a fair bit taller than the borsig or pz.4 hulls, though they do have a good working sneaky TD that fits the line well in the Skorpion G, reworking the Grille 15 into something more akin to that at tier 10 would fit the line like a glove, though some draw backs should be applied to perhaps its mobility and just how dangerous the gun is



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View PostcKy_, on Feb 06 2019 - 19:36, said:

 

Only unskilled players cry about it? Actually, I think you'll find that the exact opposite is true. It's only the unskilled players that want it to be reimplemented into the game. Example, you. 

 

i've been playing this game since August of 2012 and you call me unskilled? it takes skill to know the weak spots of a tank, it takes skill to hide a silhouette that big, if you rushed the WT auf E100 into battle it would without a doubt be focus fired and destroyed with ease. People who don't know how to kill an WT auf E100 need to get their brains checked. Example, you. 

Edited by hungariantank123, Feb 06 2019 - 13:49.


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View PostLuca_Folf, on Feb 06 2019 - 21:38, said:

the WT E100 was a horrible mess of a tank.

The thing was giant being based on the Hull of the E100 and its turret made it exceptionally difficult to hide the thing on most maps, wich was a must given the turret only had at most 8mm of armor.

 

Due to that it was exceptionally vulnerable to HE fire of all sources, personally i use to enjoy clubbing anyone driving them in arty or my 268, excluding the rare bounce off the turret the hull was the only part that had any sort of effective armor, but that came at the cost of any sort of reasonable mobility and a distinct lack of cammo values, but was compensated with having one of if not the highest base view range in the game at between 410-420m base view range, which with a 100% BIA crew with other relevant spotting skills and Binos well and truly capped out the view range allowing it to sit at the back of maps with near impunity.

 

That insane View Range meant it could out spot most opponents given scout tanks in the time didn't go over tier 5 so finding the thing in the hands of someone who know how to use and abuse bush mechanics could utterly wreck anything coming at it with a near 3k damage per reload out put after it was initially nerfed thankfully its reload was around 1 min on either gun

 

So the WT E100 was a literal Glass Cannon, Extremely Dangerous yet very Fragile.

 

Personally i hope to never see anything like it make its way into the game, though i would also like to see something that follows the line abit more aptly than the Grille 15, while dangerous in its own right, it suffers from several of the same problems the WT E100 mainly due to its over all size making it difficult to hide and having a gun shield that might as well not even be on the machine for all the good it does sort of being an HE target, where as its predecessors the Rhm borsig and WR Pz.4 are not famed for being overly endowed with speed and armor, they are very stealthy and hard hitting TDs

 

The Grille 15 being reasonably mobile being on a panther hull maked sense, along with its fire power, just not the fact its a giant target as the panther hull is a fair bit taller than the borsig or pz.4 hulls, though they do have a good working sneaky TD that fits the line well in the Skorpion G, reworking the Grille 15 into something more akin to that at tier 10 would fit the line like a glove, though some draw backs should be applied to perhaps its mobility and just how dangerous the gun is

 

finally a good argument, i love your way of thinking when it comes to the alternatives and i agree with what you are saying. Thanks for your input! 

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View Posthungariantank123, on Feb 06 2019 - 04:22, said:

 

the WT auf E100 is a HUGE target, and only unskilled players cry about the bloody thing

 

hahaha nice one.  Are you mislead, kidding, or delusional?



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Nope, I'm good on that tank.

 

The annoying thing with this tank is no matter how you slice it, your going to get some potato playing it, unload one clip, die, and do nothing for the team in battle.

 

Basically making your team one person down right off the bat and plus the damage done by the potato usually is meaningless anyways.

 

So let me ask you this, would you rather have lopsided matches as a result of this tank or no?



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View PostTilith_10IQ, on Feb 06 2019 - 05:05, said:

 

I wanted to check to see if you played the WTe100, can you link me to your non-reroll original account? 

 

I said pretty much the same thing as you the other night. The persons reply was they played on the Asian server and when they moved they had to start a new account on the NA server..

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View PostEcho_Saber, on Feb 06 2019 - 23:31, said:

 

hahaha nice one.  Are you mislead, kidding, or delusional?

 

the only one who is mislead is you, you probably couldn't take one out yourself even when the bloody thing has ZERO turret armour.

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View PostAIMBOT_XD_SOB, on Feb 06 2019 - 23:32, said:

Nope, I'm good on that tank.

 

The annoying thing with this tank is no matter how you slice it, your going to get some potato playing it, unload one clip, die, and do nothing for the team in battle.

 

Basically making your team one person down right off the bat and plus the damage done by the potato usually is meaningless anyways.

 

So let me ask you this, would you rather have lopsided matches as a result of this tank or no?

 

Its the other teams fault if they dont have the brains and balls to focus fire the bloody thing. 

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View Posthungariantank123, on Feb 07 2019 - 00:29, said:

 

i've been playing this game since August of 2012 and you call me unskilled? it takes skill to know the weak spots of a tank, it takes skill to hide a silhouette that big, if you rushed the WT auf E100 into battle it would without a doubt be focus fired and destroyed with ease. People who don't know how to kill an WT auf E100 need to get their brains checked. Example, you. 

 

You have a 45% winrate lad, and 3000 personal rating. Not to mention the 700 overall wn8 and 800 recent wn8 and your terrible average damages. Try having some self awareness love.

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View Posthungariantank123, on Feb 06 2019 - 12:29, said:

 

i've been playing this game since August of 2012 and you call me unskilled? it takes skill to know the weak spots of a tank, it takes skill to hide a silhouette that big, if you rushed the WT auf E100 into battle it would without a doubt be focus fired and destroyed with ease. People who don't know how to kill an WT auf E100 need to get their brains checked. Example, you. 

 

How long you have been playing means nothing. The Waffle was broken plain and simple, it needed removing and it got removed. 




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