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Poll: Official 2019 WT auf E100/Grille 15 poll (49 members have cast votes)

Replace the Grille 15 with the WT auf E100 (The way it used to be, except nerfed)

  1. Yes (26 votes [53.06%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 53.06%

  2. Voted No (23 votes [46.94%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 46.94%

Replace the Grille 15 with a more appropriate replacement for the WT auf E100

  1. Yes (24 votes [48.98%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 48.98%

  2. Voted No (25 votes [51.02%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 51.02%

Keep Things The way they are/Unsure

  1. Voted Yes, keep things the way they are (16 votes [32.65%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 32.65%

  2. Im Unsure... (33 votes [67.35%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 67.35%

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hungariantank123 #21 Posted Feb 07 2019 - 12:11

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View PostcKy_, on Feb 07 2019 - 09:29, said:

 

You have a 45% winrate lad, and 3000 personal rating. Not to mention the 700 overall wn8 and 800 recent wn8 and your terrible average damages. Try having some self awareness love.

 

and you are a stat-padding lowlife 

hungariantank123 #22 Posted Feb 07 2019 - 12:13

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View PostcKy_, on Feb 07 2019 - 09:29, said:

 

You have a 45% winrate lad, and 3000 personal rating. Not to mention the 700 overall wn8 and 800 recent wn8 and your terrible average damages. Try having some self awareness love.

 

i use alot of tanks, and i dont stat pad unlike yourself, i dont play the game every day like yourself, i dont live in my mama's basement....like yourself. I hope that you shut up now and move on otherwise you're no more than a sad person sitting behind a computer and being a coward. 

Edited by hungariantank123, Feb 07 2019 - 12:15.


hungariantank123 #23 Posted Feb 07 2019 - 12:15

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View PostTolos, on Feb 07 2019 - 09:33, said:

 

How long you have been playing means nothing. The Waffle was broken plain and simple, it needed removing and it got removed. 

 

not entirely removed, its still on other servers as it should be.

hungariantank123 #24 Posted Feb 07 2019 - 12:23

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I just would like to say to all of you who dont' have anything appropriate (meaning that you do NOT insult the post creator)  or neutral or constructive criticism to back off from this thread and to just leave, my post was simply to get an idea on the WT auf E100 at 2019 and to see what you guys are leaning towards. All comments from now on who dont give constructive criticism/neutral/appropriate feedback will be reported. Thanks. 

Tolos #25 Posted Feb 07 2019 - 15:06

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View Posthungariantank123, on Feb 07 2019 - 11:15, said:

 

not entirely removed, its still on other servers as it should be.

 

No, it shouldn't be. Look, the tank was stupidly broken, anyone that thinks it wasn't is an idiot. It shouldn't come back, nerfed or not. 

 

Also just because someone is better than you at a game, doesn't mean they are a stat padder ( infact he plays the same tiers as you. ) , or they live in  their ' moms basement ', or they play all day every day. It just means they are better than you at a game. 



CardboardJedi #26 Posted Feb 12 2019 - 23:33

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I applaud you OP for braving the ever present abuse by Team #NeverWaffle, thankfully though loud, they are a shrinking minority. I've been campaigning for the return of our Waffenträgers for five years now and the sentiment has softened across the media platforms a good deal, often tankers are supportive. 

    The game has evolved significantly since the patch in 2014, it could return as it was post nerf and WoT would not self destruct.

    Many say it cannot be balanced, that's utter hogwash. As I played it up till the end i MYSELF "balanced" it, after bouncing more gold than I care to admit I switched from the 128mm to the 15cm and happily blasted away with HE. It was more fun than a barrel of flaming monkies and my end stats were 51% winrate.  I did it with being "toxic" and clipping any Mauzes out from full health.

     All arguments the #NeverWaffle guys use are bogus, they say it's not historical, well neither is our digital reticle we use either, the God mode Arty enjoys or the hero paint jobs and giant decals on our tanks. The Waffle was made out of existing tank parts so hey, good enough for me. YES, the Waffle could wreck a tank caught out in the open, but for the next minute of reload it was naked, and the good tankers just waited. 

   I see up there some posts explaining that the armor is bad or the camo is bad so we just shouldn't want the Waffle. C'mon. That's weak. I enjoyed the challenge!! I survived like 29%, the trick was to cause as much havoc as possible before you got whacked. Why not let us decide what we'd like to play? 

Posting here is good, we need more Waffle drivers to speak up, but you also need to submit tickets direct to WG. Catch them at home too savvy? 

  All this aside there remains the fact that the WoT wiki for the Waffenträger has been renamed the G98 and the page values are all blank. It appears to be undergoing a facelift, and streamers have pointed out the model is in the game files. If they DO rerelease it someway I'll be curious to see how many haters wind up driving one... 

 


Edited by CardboardJedi, Feb 13 2019 - 06:09.


PCA_PANADES_1 #27 Posted Feb 17 2019 - 05:03

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View PostcKy_, on Feb 06 2019 - 10:08, said:

Say otherwise all you like, but it can't be balanced. A tank with such a huge turret with so little armour needs an OP gun to make up for it (see FV4005), and since it's on a German super accurate snipe line, it needs to have a super accurate sniper gun. And that tank with a single shot gun like the Jagtiger or Grille just wouldn't work, thus the autoloader. Except the autoloader is OP, and the only real way to nerf it is the accuracy and soft stats, but as said earlier, it needs to have a super accurate sniper gun.

 

Is Grille 15 accurate? You should not have played Grille anytime! Grille is a POS. Useless ... 
Wanna my credits and XP back>>> Wargaming cheated us with Grille 15... not happy enough they nerfed it. They should give us 6100000 credits more a garage slot more the XP for a tier X.
And for those that do not like Grille the credits and XP (in free XP) to grind another vehicle.

I never ground Grille 15 and never would. I ground a fully turn turret TD with an autoloader. I got with a super POS. I got robbed, i got cheated like every other player of WT auf E 100.
What a shame, Wargaming do not act fairly, they cheated us.

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ShmeeCow #28 Posted Mar 09 2019 - 10:43

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I wouldn't mind having it back, or at least a buff for the Grille 15. Preferably, I would like both.

PCA_PANADES_1 #29 Posted Mar 14 2019 - 17:49

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View PostTolos, on Feb 07 2019 - 00:33, said:

 

How long you have been playing means nothing. The Waffle was broken plain and simple, it needed removing and it got removed. 

 

I did not grind Grille 15. Wargaming pushed this crap underpowered and boring to play over me. It do not fit the line, it has fake gun elevation and depression. It has totally atrocious stats... it is useless.

we got robbed by Wargaming, We do not wanna this crap. Wanna a decent tier X vehicle.

Naelbis #30 Posted Apr 29 2019 - 16:56

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I get the rage people had for the WTE, it is never fun being sniped out in one clip by a tank from halfway across the map. That being said, the Grille is a terrible replacement and the "autoloader" argument fails in this day of every second tank being an autoloader. Personally, WG should either buff the Grille to make it an actually decent TD that people fear, or they should give everyone that ground out the WTE and got the Grille as a POS replacement a full refund. 

Nutzo #31 Posted Jun 05 2019 - 17:43

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Going to say No, simply because i remember playing against and with that tank, it was removed for very good reason, one being that it could clip out practically anything short of a maus before being dunked shortly afterwards. you see people complaining about the 183 but at least the 183 can't smack you down if it misses its first shot, the waffle and its sub 2 second reload however? good luck escaping that, because if the first shot doesn't track you, the second one will

CardboardJedi #32 Posted Jun 05 2019 - 19:34

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Now the news is that most all tanks will be given an HP buff, further negating the one clip kill aspect of the Waffle. I posted that ponder via a WG ticket yesterday and the reply was basically 'go to hell'. 

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View PostCardboardJedi, on Jun 06 2019 - 04:34, said:

Now the news is that most all tanks will be given an armor buff, further negating the one clip kill aspect of the Waffle. I posted that ponder via a WG ticket yesterday and the reply was basically 'go to hell'. 

 

armour buff? you mean hit point buff right?

 

even with a HP buff, you still delete a medium or another TD in a clip

 

and the WTE100 itself will get more hit points, which is what it used to soak up damage in the first place, cause it has no armour.

 



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View PostFiremoth, on Jun 06 2019 - 07:48, said:

 

armour buff? you mean hit point buff right?

 

even with a HP buff, you still delete a medium or another TD in a clip

 

and the WTE100 itself will get more hit points, which is what it used to soak up damage in the first place, cause it has no armour.

 

 

thank you for catching that, I must have been hurry-typing, I fixed that. On your point about still getting clipped out yeah I guess? I'd totally agree with you except other auto loaders can still clip out other tanks, I've been power deleted by a T57 heavy and a Foch B recently. I don't blame them it was after all my fault for giving them the opportunity after all. 

WG could put our Waffles in without giving them anymore advantage, it's just pixels and stats after all. Like Thanks said, the Waffle can be whatever WG wants it to be.... At least we'd have it back in our rotation. I've even suggested to them to credit it back to us but give it reverse credit income to discourage "game ruining toxic over use", the better you do the more expensive the game. We Waffle drivers are willing to compromise... In the end we need to lookat it this way, we waffle drivers aren't the bad guys here, we just unlocked that tank in good faith that wargaming would take care of us and make everything work in balance for everyone. Other tanks were rebalancd, even "removed" but grandfathered tankers got to keep them. WG could fix this over a tasty pizza lunch if they wanted to.



illumiZoldyck #35 Posted Jun 07 2019 - 10:28

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lol people have  memory issues

when grille first came it was op, they had to nerf it to balance it.



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This is the Tank that Swore me off Autoloaders....       Then the Swede's brought me Back to them and I have a TON of the things in my Garge between French, German, Swede, and Italian....     Working on More....

 

I know they'll never bring it Back, and I'm fine with that....     But if they do, I'll have a Spot waiting for it...     Been 4yrs and Change since I tried it, I'd give it another Go....






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