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Avalon304 #41 Posted Feb 09 2019 - 21:59

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View PostLuckyStarr, on Feb 09 2019 - 03:17, said:

Crew is incomparably more valuable than camo, I love that they included crew into the base package.

 

For a premium tank? Absolutely not. I already have a 3 skill Chinese light tank crew and Id wager that just about anyone, unless theyre just starting the chinese light tanks right now, has atleast a 1 skill crew in them. Youd have a bit of an argument if the crew was a 0-skill crew, but the one included with the deals is not, where as the camos are unique to the M41D and cant be bought elsewhere.

KaiserWilhelmShatner #42 Posted Feb 11 2019 - 04:42

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When can we get JGSDF and ARVN version?

Ta_Hun_Kwai #43 Posted Feb 11 2019 - 07:00

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View PostKaiserWilhelmShatner, on Feb 10 2019 - 19:42, said:

When can we get JGSDF and ARVN version?

You just want gave me a great idea that I wish wargaming did for premium tanks instead of selling copies of the tank they should sell camo skins the change the nationality of the tank so sell a M41 regular & a M41 premium & ased on the skin tank stats, crew positions & tank parts change as needed



Avalon304 #44 Posted Feb 11 2019 - 13:52

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WG... Id really like a base bundle with the camo and without the crew... give me that for the same price and Id totally buy it... I just dont need a crew, but unique camo is cool.

LuckyStarr #45 Posted Feb 11 2019 - 19:26

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View PostAvalon304, on Feb 09 2019 - 22:59, said:

For a premium tank? Absolutely not.

While I get your point that skills can be trained later but unique camo cannot be purchases later, the sheer amount of hours and/or money you need to put into training a crew makes ANY trained crew worth a grab. This game has extremely hard and long and painful grinds, beyond reason.

 

View PostAvalon304, on Feb 09 2019 - 22:59, said:

 Id wager that just about anyone, unless theyre just starting the chinese light tanks right now, has atleast a 1 skill crew in them.

It takes very, VERY long to complete even the first skill in a light tank. I don't care if it's 0-skill or not. I mean, sure, 0-skill is better, but this is still a great offer.


Edited by LuckyStarr, Feb 11 2019 - 19:26.


Avalon304 #46 Posted Feb 12 2019 - 05:57

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View PostLuckyStarr, on Feb 11 2019 - 11:26, said:

It takes very, VERY long to complete even the first skill in a light tank. I don't care if it's 0-skill or not. I mean, sure, 0-skill is better, but this is still a great offer.

 

It really doesnt. It takes a very short amount of time to complete the first skill in any class of tank. It takes like ~30 games, less if you run crew XP and normal XP boosters, less still if youre using a premium which you can accelerate crew training on and that give 50% more XP. Getting to the first skill is super easy and quick.

LuckyStarr #47 Posted Feb 12 2019 - 17:49

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View PostAvalon304, on Feb 12 2019 - 06:57, said:

It takes like ~30 games

ORLY? It takes 210 000 XP. 210 000 / 30 = 7000 XP per game. Does it look realistic to you? I don't think so. Typical base XP per battle is ~400 (350-450), with a fresh crew it's much more likely to be on the lower side of the range, but let's take the generous number of 450 to account for a better player than I am. 210k/450 = 466 battles. This is not 30. Yes, you can reduce this number with premium account (pay to suffer less) and reserves (also cost real money, you can earn some for free but not enough to be running them all the time). You can also boost your crew XP by using an elite and/or premium tank, but 400+ battles is how long it takes when you don't inject any money into the game, and that is not a small number.

With premium + 200% crew booster it becomes 133 battles at 450 average base XP per battle. Still far from 30, isn't it?


Edited by LuckyStarr, Feb 12 2019 - 17:52.


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This item is not available for you. Please browse the shop's website to find other interesting offers. alright fine ill keep my money

Ta_Hun_Kwai #49 Posted Feb 14 2019 - 20:50

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View PostGunnerTahu, on Feb 14 2019 - 11:41, said:

This item is not available for you. Please browse the shop's website to find other interesting offers. alright fine ill keep my money

you need to have a premium account whatever premium account you can buy it if you got the message with a premium account just to refresh the webpage



Avalon304 #50 Posted Feb 14 2019 - 23:07

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View PostLuckyStarr, on Feb 12 2019 - 09:49, said:

ORLY? It takes 210 000 XP. 210 000 / 30 = 7000 XP per game. Does it look realistic to you? I don't think so. Typical base XP per battle is ~400 (350-450), with a fresh crew it's much more likely to be on the lower side of the range, but let's take the generous number of 450 to account for a better player than I am. 210k/450 = 466 battles. This is not 30. Yes, you can reduce this number with premium account (pay to suffer less) and reserves (also cost real money, you can earn some for free but not enough to be running them all the time). You can also boost your crew XP by using an elite and/or premium tank, but 400+ battles is how long it takes when you don't inject any money into the game, and that is not a small number.

With premium + 200% crew booster it becomes 133 battles at 450 average base XP per battle. Still far from 30, isn't it?

 

So... crew XP isnt the average base XP you get per battle... its the resultant XP from all the calculations. So if you have a battle... and you get 3k XP each crew member gets 3k crew XP from that battle.

 

If youre only getting 450 XP per battle, after any and all bonuses, then you have bigger problems than your crew. Ive had battle, where even without boosters, Iv taken a fresh 100% cre from 0% on their first skill to over 60% on thier first skill just by playing their normal tank on a weekend.

 

It really does not take long to get a fresh 100% crew from 0% to 100% on their first skill, especially since boosters are still pretty much given out like candy. (I have so many boosters that I literally dont know what do do with them, and Ive never bought a package of boosters).



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View Postgpc_4, on Feb 08 2019 - 18:41, said:

 

Like the Type 64, it actually has a Taiwanese emblem.

 

I'd be curious if that flag is on the Chinese server.  My guess is, somebody would be in a re-education camp if it was.

LuckyStarr #52 Posted Feb 15 2019 - 18:51

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View PostAvalon304, on Feb 15 2019 - 00:07, said:

 (I have so many boosters that I literally dont know what do do with them, and Ive never bought a package of boosters).

 

Ah, the problems of the 0.1% (roughly judging by your stats sig). Of course, if you're playing that well, you will get rewards and you will get great XP.

However, I was talking about base XP, not that after bonuses. That's the number displayed in Vehicle Statistics in your Service Record. And I dare you to look me in the eye and say you're getting 3000 XP per battle on average, even with all the bonuses possible (in a regular tech tree tank).

 

View PostAvalon304, on Feb 15 2019 - 00:07, said:

Iv taken a fresh 100% cre from 0% on their first skill to over 60% on thier first skill just by playing their normal tank on a weekend.

Yes, true, I've done that, too. But you're missing one small thingie: the skill progression is exponential, not linear. 0% to 60% skill is only 15.7k EXP. 60% to 100% is 89k. Feel the difference. Feel the pain.


Edited by LuckyStarr, Feb 15 2019 - 19:15.





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