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Is the M4 Sherman Jumbo a superior route to the T29 compared to the m6?

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FirebirdXIV #1 Posted Feb 19 2019 - 16:50

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Hi everyone! Just poking round to ask some advice. I have the m4 Sherman, and am looking at getting to the t29 via the Sherman jumbo. I would free xp to the 90, because the 76 is sh*t. If I do that, is going through the sherman jumbo faster or more effective? Or would the experience from the t1 and m6 be valuable when playing the T29. 

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NL_Celt #2 Posted Feb 19 2019 - 17:19

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If you haven't started with the T1 then sure, less XP to get the T-29. Possibly the extra time playing a heavy with the T1 and M6 will help, especially as the latter mounts the 90mm. But the Jumbo is actually better protected, same speed, should play more like a heavy anyway. If it were me and I was going to free XP the 90mm, then I think I'd just keep going as is.

Dockmaster #3 Posted Feb 19 2019 - 17:31

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I collect US tanks.I have both the Jumbo and the M6.

 

I have 62 battles in the jumbo with a 56.45% win rate. I have 171 battles in the M6 with an incredible win rate of 67.84%. The M6 is a beast when top tier. It can hold it's own in 3/5/7 as low tier.

 

I achieved the win rate on the M6 in random battles only. No Company battles to pad this rate.

 

Crew should be taken into consideration in this decision. If you go with the M6 you will have a crew ready to transfer to the T29. If you go with the Jumbo you will either have to convert them to the T29 at 200 gold a crew member or start from scratch with the T29 crew..

 

You want the T29 no matter what route you decide upon. I have 2663 battles with a 61.10% win rate in mine. It is my go to tank to break losing streaks.



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Personally I found the Jumbo to much more fun to play than the T1/M6. AT top tier it can easily anchor corners. The extra armor lets it brawl with anything in its tier short of the Jap supper heavy derps. It is even good at trolling tier 7s. As expected, it is a challenge to face tier 8 but if you are careful and angle really well you can annoy them too. 

 

YMMV, but I loved the Jumbo and sill play it. I sold the M6 as quick as I could,



Slatherer #5 Posted Feb 19 2019 - 17:36

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Go with the jumbo.  Free ep the T29s big gun.  

pafman #6 Posted Feb 19 2019 - 18:06

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no question, the m6

GAJohnnie #7 Posted Feb 19 2019 - 18:07

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No, the M6 is one of the best, most versatile, tier 6 tanks. The Jumbo is very situational by comparison

Edited by GAJohnnie, Feb 19 2019 - 18:08.


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I went Jumbo but everyone who has an M6 really loves it.  I'd go M6.

FirebirdXIV #9 Posted Feb 19 2019 - 18:22

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I see a lot of positive feedback for the m6, but no one has really said why. Why is it so great. Why is the Jumbo good?

FirebirdXIV #10 Posted Feb 19 2019 - 18:25

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Also, the last time I asked about the t29, I got a lot of people saying it was severely underpowered and had no strong point, only weaknesses. How much truth is there in those peoples statements?

GAJohnnie #11 Posted Feb 19 2019 - 18:48

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View PostFirebirdXIV, on Feb 19 2019 - 12:25, said:

Also, the last time I asked about the t29, I got a lot of people saying it was severely underpowered and had no strong point, only weaknesses. How much truth is there in those peoples statements?

 

Total BS. A fully upgraded T29 is by far the best tier 7 heavy. Like any tank it has to be played right and will have to deal with being bottom teir some times. I see a T-29 as top teir on the other side in a match and I expect it to be a very tough foe. Hull down a T29 is a monster pain in the butt to try and deal with.



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The downside to getting the T29 through the Jumbo is that you don't have the 90mm unlocked when you get the T29 and running this tank with the stock 76mm gun is rage inducing.  If you want to get to the T29 through the M4A3E2, go for it, but I'd recommend getting the 90mm gun unlocked through either the T20 medium or the M6 heavy before actually playing the T29 (assuming you're not planning to just free XP for upgraded guns).

 

View PostFirebirdXIV, on Feb 19 2019 - 11:25, said:

Also, the last time I asked about the t29, I got a lot of people saying it was severely underpowered and had no strong point, only weaknesses. How much truth is there in those peoples statements?

 

The T29 has a squishy hull, but the front of the turret is still pretty strong (especially for its tier), the top gun (105) is still one of the best at its tier, and the tank is decently mobile for a heavy.  It can be tough to play, because its plays best from a hull down position, but its still one of the few keepers I have at tier 7.


Edited by BattlecryGWJ, Feb 19 2019 - 18:52.


GAJohnnie #13 Posted Feb 19 2019 - 18:51

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View PostFirebirdXIV, on Feb 19 2019 - 12:22, said:

I see a lot of positive feedback for the m6, but no one has really said why. Why is it so great. Why is the Jumbo good?

 

I like the M6 because it is mobile with one of the best guns at teir. Play it as a heavy medium. Don't try to brawl other heavies, instead run with the mediums.  Get hull down and you make tier 4-5  tanks cry. Gun is still good enough to be a pain to tier 7-8 tanks with some careful game play

 

I guess it all comes down to what you like. Some people can make the armor on the Jumbo work. Fine when top tier, don't see the Jumbo all the effective 60-70% of the time when bottom/mid tier. Gun is weak even against same teir and mobility is non existential.



kapri25 #14 Posted Feb 19 2019 - 19:03

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Tbh, the T1/M6 are the fastest heavies of it's tier. For me though, I took the Sherman route and just came back to the T1/M6 tanks later just to elite them. I think you have to be a knowledgeable player to drive one of these. If you don't know about being hull down you're going to really suffer in this tank as it has a really really big hull.

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No, the M6 is better because it will share more modules with the T29. 

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View Postgpc_4, on Feb 19 2019 - 19:29, said:

No, the M6 is better because it will share more modules with the T29. 

 

​Which ones?

FirebirdXIV #17 Posted Feb 23 2019 - 02:55

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Looks like the top gun has a meh but not terrible RoF, is a gun rammer worth it?

QuicksilverJPR #18 Posted Feb 27 2019 - 20:03

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The answer to your question is "NO".

 

 



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View PostGAJohnnie, on Feb 19 2019 - 17:07, said:

No, the M6 is one of the best, most versatile, tier 6 tanks. The Jumbo is very situational by comparison

 


I kinda think its the opposite.  I did pretty well in the M6 but I think the Jumbo can be more of a nuisance to fight against ( when set up with stock turret and the 105)

sargev55 #20 Posted Feb 27 2019 - 21:04

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View PostFirebirdXIV, on Feb 19 2019 - 17:22, said:

I see a lot of positive feedback for the m6, but no one has really said why. Why is it so great. Why is the Jumbo good?

 



M6 has good acceleration and mobility for a heavy.  Frontal armor is around 100mm, but has a lot of weak spots and is not very sloped.  Side armor on the M6 is very thin as well.  Its also a very long and tall tank.  The 90mm gun is good for the tier and rate of fire is decent too.   So M6 has a good top gun, decent speed, armor thickness is good for tier 6 but unreliable due to lack of slope and thickness.


The Sherman Jumbo has very good frontal armor, 100mm sloped and is relatively bouncy.  When keeping the stock turret and using the 105 you have a turret that is 152mm thick all around plus the mantlet on the front which equates (if I remember correctly) to something like 279mm on the front of the turret which can easily bounce rounds from even Tier 8 tanks if you can manage to get it hull down. 

So you have the M6, which although it is a  'heavy' tank can actually play more like a medium, and the Sherman Jumbo, which is a medium but actually has more armor than most of the tier 6 heavies.





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