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7x57_2018 #1 Posted Mar 08 2019 - 21:31

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I am considering purchasing American premium tanks for crew trainers via the Tech Tree and would like your input.  I'm doing the line to the M48 Patton and the T110E5,   My medium options are the T26E4 and the M46 K4.  The heavy line offers the T34.  What's your thoughts, experience with these tanks, are they worth the Gold?

4TheBox #2 Posted Mar 08 2019 - 21:35

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Crews of American tier 8 premium tanks do not match with ones of tier 10 tech tree tanks. It can be annoying.

JunkaTheAdmirable #3 Posted Mar 08 2019 - 21:36

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T26E5/Patriot is the best one.

thegreat101 #4 Posted Mar 08 2019 - 21:36

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I feel the Super P is worht it, but the M46 is not. "my opinion" mainly becuase the Super P has Premium MM", so you never have to worry about the tier 10 games, and the Super P is a great pick for frontlines. Now the T34, "dont get me wrong, Its a REALLY GREAT TANK, and you can pen about everything."

with the power creep of many new Premiums, the T34 has fell behind, Weak hull it is easy to pen, and it has Super BAD DPM. but on a ridge line it is a boss. if you plan on getting an American Premium Heavy, i suggest the Patriot over the T34, has the same roll as the T34, just better DPM


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View Post4TheBox, on Mar 08 2019 - 21:35, said:

Crews of American tier 8 premium tanks do not match with ones of tier 10 tech tree tanks. It can be annoying.

 

Patton only has a crew of 4.  T26E4 has a crew 5 so no issue there he can just stick the extra in the barracks.  Same with T34 he'll have 2 extra guys to stick in the barracks.

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dnaman #6 Posted Mar 08 2019 - 21:39

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I like my Super P and the preferred MM is nice.  The Patriot is typically seen as better than the T34 even though I like mine and have 2 marked it.

Dockmaster #7 Posted Mar 08 2019 - 21:41

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I collect US tanks as you can see from my signature. I use them as trainers rather than credit boosters

 

I use the Super Pershing as a crew trainer for my mediums.

 

I use the T34 and M6A2E1 as my heavy crew trainers. Unfortunately this tanks are victims of "Power Creep" and aren't as effective as they were in the past.

 

I also have a slew of lower tier premium trainers that have allowed me to achieve a Major as commander in all my US keepers from tier 6 and up. Heck, even my Sherman E2's commander has 59% of his 4th skill/perk. 



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View Post7x57_2018, on Mar 08 2019 - 14:31, said:

I am considering purchasing American premium tanks for crew trainers via the Tech Tree and would like your input.  I'm doing the line to the M48 Patton and the T110E5,   My medium options are the T26E4 and the M46 K4.  The heavy line offers the T34.  What's your thoughts, experience with these tanks, are they worth the Gold?

 

OP, if you're going down those lines just for the fun of it, then that's fine.  However, neither the Patton nor the E5 are very good tanks for Tier X.  Many people like the Patton line though, so you might end up enjoying it.

 

If you're focused on getting a Medium Crew Trainer, I'd highly recommend the SuperPershing using the current Gold discount.  With the pref MM and recent buffs, that tank can be a lot of fun.  There is no other American Tier 8 tech tree premium that I can recommend.

 

DO NOT GET the T34.  That's all I'm going to say on that.

 

Good luck!

 

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madogthefirst #9 Posted Mar 08 2019 - 22:21

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View Post7x57_2018, on Mar 08 2019 - 12:31, said:

I am considering purchasing American premium tanks for crew trainers via the Tech Tree and would like your input.  I'm doing the line to the M48 Patton and the T110E5,   My medium options are the T26E4 and the M46 KR.  The heavy line offers the T34.  What's your thoughts, experience with these tanks, are they worth the Gold?

We shall ignore

  • Ram
  • Fury
  • M4 (Un)Improved
  • Thunderbolt
  • Eagle 7

 



haxmachine21 #10 Posted Mar 08 2019 - 22:38

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View Postmadogthefirst, on Mar 08 2019 - 15:21, said:

We shall ignore

  • Ram
  • Fury
  • M4 (Un)Improved
  • Thunderbolt
  • Eagle 7

 

 

Fairly solid list. I have the M4 Improved, and the playstyle is nothing like what you'd use on the higher tier American mediums. The Improved plays like a slower Cromwell. If anything, it would throw you off....only really good for training crew.

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View Postthegreat101, on Mar 08 2019 - 14:36, said:

I feel the Super P is worht it, but the M46 is not. "my opinion" mainly becuase the Super P has Premium MM", so you never have to worry about the tier 10 games, and the Super P is a great pick for frontlines.

 

Interesting - I posted earlier about the Tier 8 premium discount and didn't even consider the SP due to the lack of speed.  It's still effective for FL?  I was actually leaning to the 46 due to gun depression and mobility.

 

View Post__WarChild__, on Mar 08 2019 - 15:19, said:

 

However, neither the Patton nor the E5 are very good tanks for Tier X.  Many people like the Patton line though, so you might end up enjoying it.

 

 

On the Patton - agreeing with the second sentence, what makes it not very good for Tier X?  Mine is sitting in the garage waiting for a discount on crew retraining so I'm curious to know where it lacks considering I've heard many say it's one of the best Tier X mediums.



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View Postowlgator, on Mar 08 2019 - 15:41, said:

 

On the Patton - agreeing with the second sentence, what makes it not very good for Tier X?  Mine is sitting in the garage waiting for a discount on crew retraining so I'm curious to know where it lacks considering I've heard many say it's one of the best Tier X mediums.

 

I must admit, I do not know exactly why.  But I do know that you never see it or the M60 in Clan Wars or Advances with top clans except in very specific/unusual situations.  Russian mediums dominate the competitive landscape.

 

Like I said though, many people like the tank and enjoy playing it. But my advice would be to choose something else if you haven't gone too far.  My opinion is strictly that though - 100% opinion and could be completely wrong for you and/or the OP.



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I think the general consensus is that the M48 Patton is a good all-around tank.  Not particularly great at anything, but average in all aspects.  Now that they remodeled the commander's hatch, it can use hills better.

 

I personally like the Patton KR.  Decent mobility and can work hills fairly well.

 

Is the tech tree your only option?

If we're talking strictly crew trainers, the only heavy that will properly train your crew is the Chrysler.  Has 4 crew members and the RO skills on the Commander, just like the T57 Heavy and E5.  Patriot has 5, and T34 has 6.  With crew trainers, less is more.  The more crew you have the longer it'll take to train their skill because the bonus has to swap between 5 or 6 crew member instead of 4.  Also, if you're training shared skills on your Commander, like SItuational Awareness, it becomes useless the moment you put them in a tank that has the RO skills on someone else or has a separate RO.



Lucid_Nonsense_1 #14 Posted Mar 08 2019 - 23:39

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I think the Thunderbolt is much underappreciated - you get a BIA crew and a tank which is great at support fire; with good depression and the extra armour you get a lot of bounces - even when mid tier. Now, much like the Super Pee, it's not very quick, BUT, neither catch fire often - so just use the premium petrol to get either a 5 or 10% boost to speed and turret traverse. The extra agility and high RoF will let you catch out a lot of lights trying to circle you, and it makes both of them fast enough for their role - and it's cheaper than food. PLUS, with binocs and vents you get a lot of spotting assist XP when you are bottom tier - keeping the XP & silver rolling in.

 

The major downside is that it's not a tank that will carry a game; (except for the rare top tier games, when you excellent view range helps out a lot in the end game) but, those 1 in a 100 games are not that much of a concern in a trainer/earner tank. Yes, you might miss your chance at a Kolabnov's VERY rarely; but you will train a crew quickly and keep the silver rolling in.

 

PS. BIA crew - much more important in the long run.


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the supper p is great if you play it as more of a heavie then a medium, the thunderbolt is very good tier 6 medium, the t26e5 is great but next time you see the crysler k for sale jump on it you wont be disapointed

7x57_2018 #16 Posted Mar 09 2019 - 00:25

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I would like to use the Gold gained from the Christmas loot boxes, and not do the cash route.  Anyway, not at this time .  With that said, yes the Tech Tree is my only option.  From what I'm seeing I'm thinking it might be best to steer away from the T34....not sure.   

TheManFromKekistan #17 Posted Mar 09 2019 - 07:25

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The super pershing is a fine tank after the buffs and still enjoys pref mm. None of the rest are really worth it as they are mostly easy 8 clones or poorer clones of the pershing. Not particularly bad but certainly not optimal. The eagle7 is actually not bad due to it being tier 7 so it's armour holds up better and the gun is solid for tier and its meh mobility means a seamless gameplay transition between it and the super p.

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I concur with not getting the T34. Its pretty bad right now, only get it if you have extra gold and nothing to spend it on. The other 2 are pretty good. 

Here is a comparison of them and the pershing, which you have or will play: https://tanks.gg/compare/pershing?t=m46-kr~t26e4



Benjammn79 #19 Posted Mar 09 2019 - 09:11

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Most of the US tree has been overwhelmed by power creep, including the premium vehicles.  I have a Ram, and though a lower tier, is fun and decent crew trainer.

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The Super Pershing is really the best option in my view.   Its crew doesn't line up with the Tier 10 and there's no way to train up some rather important secondary skills on you Patton crew.   In the Patton the Loader is also the radio operator, and Situational awareness is a must, but the Super Pershing has a dedicated radio operator.   I would also mention that this puts the Super Pershing at a bit of a disadvantage because your loader has skills he can't use and is in effect, a skill down from the rest of the crew, however this a universal problem, the KR has this issue as well as the more obscure T25 Pilot 1.   The only tank that is actually set up for training an M48 Patton crew is the insanely rare reward tank T95E2.




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