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I HATE THE TYPE 59 !


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eggmansr711 #41 Posted Sep 19 2011 - 19:27

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I have the Pershing, T-44, and T-59.  If you know the 59 its easy to damage or kill with both of those tanks.  Pershing is a far superior tank.  Best tier 8 med in my book.  Haven't played the panther 2 yet.  T-59 has good front armor against lower tier tanks but against same tier or better it can easily be penetrated.  Not sure why you would have trouble with one with a Pershing.  The t-44 gun reload sucks.  So I really don't care for that tank. They need another gun for the t-44.  To me its the weakest overall tier-8 medium.  Again I haven't played the panther2 yet.  On the t-59 Hit the sides and back if your lower tier and you should pen.  Quit aiming for the lower front hull as that is its strength.  Its exactly what I hoped for when buying it.  A middle of the road tier-8 money maker.  Seems match maker is treating like a KV-5 where the Lowe is now being constantly place against tier-9+

WarStore #42 Posted Sep 19 2011 - 19:33

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I don't hate them. T59 gives me lots of XP.

Yesterday, one of these tried to circle troll my KV. Got ammo racked.

fitten #43 Posted Sep 19 2011 - 19:36

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If you look at the stats, the Type 59 is almost identical to the T-44. It has almost the same exact gun stats as the 100 D10T (0.5s faster reload) and other performance figures for the rest of the tank are the same. The one difference is that the T-44 has 120mm frontal turret armor and the Type 59 has 200mm frontal turret armor. At a glance, any other differences are so minor as to not really matter. What you're seeing and are having a problem with is most likely how common wolfpacks are as everyone is getting this tank. A pack of T-44 would be almost exactly as bad as Type 59s except for the bounces from shooting the front of the turret (which you shouldn't really do in any tank anyway as most tanks have significant armor there).

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View Postbillpete, on Sep 19 2011 - 13:30, said:

It has completely ruined the game for me.

I was just in a match where there were 4 on the other team--guess who won.  Of course, we had none on our team.

They should be a Tier 9 tank.  I cannot kill them in the Panther, Tiger I, or Pershing when I am one on one with them.

I had a game where my (tier 8) team had two T1 Cunninghams and the other team had none and guess who won?

Tier 1s are so overpowered

Okeano #45 Posted Sep 19 2011 - 19:55

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View PostF34rmen00bz, on Sep 19 2011 - 19:42, said:

I had a game where my (tier 8) team had two T1 Cunninghams and the other team had none and guess who won?

Tier 1s are so overpowered
There was a MS-1 in our squad once and we won 15-0. I will post SS later.

billpete #46 Posted Sep 19 2011 - 19:59

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View PostDV_Currie_VC, on Sep 19 2011 - 15:24, said:

Panther = tier 7; Tiger I = tier 7.  Why should you be able to defeat them when you are 1 vs. 1 against them?

They why am I matched up against them in a Tiger or Panther?

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View Postbillpete, on Sep 19 2011 - 19:59, said:

They why am I matched up against them in a Tiger or Panther?
Same reason that there was a match of 8v6, where the other team had 2 Mauses, 2 tier 9 meds, T50 and 3 arties while we had T30, T54, my T29 and 3 arties?

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View Postbillpete, on Sep 19 2011 - 19:59, said:

They why am I matched up against them in a Tiger or Panther?


KV-13, VK3002DB and T-20 are all able to beat the Panther and Tiger(H) 1vs1, and they're in the same tier. German tanks generally (always some exceptions, as I am including the 3002DB) aren't great in a dogfight, in my experience anyway.

lostwingman #49 Posted Sep 19 2011 - 20:13

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View Postbillpete, on Sep 19 2011 - 19:59, said:

They why am I matched up against them in a Tiger or Panther?
Because there aren't enough people playing this game to have a game where all 30 people are the same tier.

Good enough for you?




Pliskinator #50 Posted Sep 19 2011 - 20:18

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The type 59 is not that big a deal its easy to take down if you know what your doing.

Also most people say its comparable to a T-44 or T-54 all I can say is it is not even close the most comparable tank to it is a T-43 and that is at a push.

Okeano #51 Posted Sep 19 2011 - 20:20

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Hey, you cry babies that are neg-ing my post on page 2, come up with a reason or counter argument instead. "Oh noes, he's telling the truth, neg him!"

Pliskinator #52 Posted Sep 19 2011 - 20:21

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View Posteggmansr711, on Sep 19 2011 - 19:27, said:

I have the Pershing, T-44, and T-59.  If you know the 59 its easy to damage or kill with both of those tanks.  Pershing is a far superior tank.  Best tier 8 med in my book.  Haven't played the panther 2 yet.  T-59 has good front armor against lower tier tanks but against same tier or better it can easily be penetrated.  Not sure why you would have trouble with one with a Pershing.  The t-44 gun reload sucks.  So I really don't care for that tank. They need another gun for the t-44.  To me its the weakest overall tier-8 medium.  Again I haven't played the panther2 yet.  On the t-59 Hit the sides and back if your lower tier and you should pen.  Quit aiming for the lower front hull as that is its strength.  Its exactly what I hoped for when buying it.  A middle of the road tier-8 money maker.  Seems match maker is treating like a KV-5 where the Lowe is now being constantly place against tier-9+


I've played both the Pershing and the Panther II and though the Pershing is an exceptional tank in my experience the Panther II is the best Tier 8 medium as its just way more robust and accurate.

Okeano #53 Posted Sep 19 2011 - 20:35

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View PostJo0minator, on Sep 19 2011 - 17:44, said:

got my chinese farmer today and played 10 games to see how good it really is. ITS DAMN GOOD! works really awesome when u have the experience of driving russian medium tanks.
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I have 5 wins out of 5 battles in my T18. That tank is AWESOME!

khurst #54 Posted Sep 19 2011 - 20:40

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[quote name='Okeano' timestamp='1316452047' post='923050']
Wow what a bunch of cry babies.


I didn't neg rep you but, this would be my guess.

Okeano #55 Posted Sep 19 2011 - 20:42

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Did I hurt their feelings? I wasn't aware I was on the Hello-Kitty-Online forum.

Kaminaa #56 Posted Sep 19 2011 - 20:47

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I have no problems with the tank itself, but I do think it has to do with it's matchmaking value. It's very similar to the T-44, however it's VERY slow compare to the other mediums which is not a good thing. The hull armour is almost the same to the T-44, but it has better turret armour. As a player who loves to play mediums, sacrificing speed is never a good trade off. In many cases, the speed of a medium is the survivability of the tank.

Unlike the Lowe that gets into T9 matches quite often, the Type 59 rarely ever steps foot into those battles. This is what makes the tank good at making credits. I'm assuming it has a even lower value compare to the KV-5, I do see kv-5s in T9 battles sometimes. Whenever I play on my T9 meds, I never see any type 59 in my battles.

A Type 59 alone isn't much a threat, but a Lowe certainly is. Unless the player is exceptional at mediums which isn't likely from my experience of premium tanks, it's just a slower moving T-44. However, if you get a platoon of Type 59 and begin wolf-packing, then I do think they are a force to be reckon with.

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View Postbillpete, on Sep 19 2011 - 19:59, said:

They why am I matched up against them in a Tiger or Panther?
http://overlord-wot....king-chart.html

How this works:

Match-making system defines type and tier of every single vehicle. E.g. T-29 - tier 7 heavy tank.

See 7-heavy line and find out which battle tier spread it has. In our example, from 7 to 11.

The exact battle tier is chosen on a random basis. E.g. 7.

Then match-making system begins processing the waiting queue, and chooses the tanks that can participate in tier 7 battles (7th column) and makes up 2 teams from them.

L3ft4D3ad #58 Posted Sep 19 2011 - 21:04

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The pershing is a better then the 59, the 59 isnt broken or OP it can be killed like the maus, is-7, e-100, t30 you need to know how to play against each tank, this game isnt pay to play, play air rivals( at least last i checked it was about a year ago), back onto track, everyone complained about the bouncy lowe when it first came out, now not 1 person complain about it now they know how to kill it, tier 8 is the best tier for this tank its to op for 7 and doesnt have the gun or engine for 9, if have issues with a tank get in a training room with it and practice.

hazywater #59 Posted Sep 19 2011 - 21:06

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Maybe I'll get some hate for this, but I do think that the RoF on the 100mm should be nerfed. I don't like how that gun is more accurate and reloads faster than the T44.

L3ft4D3ad #60 Posted Sep 19 2011 - 21:16

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i dont see the need




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