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godspeed40 #1 Posted Mar 16 2019 - 01:42

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I think we can all agree the T110e5 is a shame of a heavy tank and a lesser medium. It's a living hell to play, and I average 3,500+ damage in the thing. But it's a nightmare doing it and it infuriates me knowing i'm playing at an automatic disadvantage. At that, the whole branch starting from tier eight needs attention in some area's. The t32 with gun performance, and M1o3 with some armor nudges, get's slain even in a frontal hulldown engagement. But the T110e5 needs help in every category, being a "jack of all trades" isn't going to cut the butter anymore since everything else is so strong and can do literally everything the T110e5 can do and do it better minus super heavy tanks.

 

It, along with others such as the Is4 and E-100 are freaking fossils but at least the latter isn't complete agony to play. Back then was to early for the T110e5 to be buffed, I admit that now. But today, nearly everything has ascended beyond that threshold, I think it can be raised from the mothballs now.

 

If your wondering why such a seemingly garbage player is complaining about a tank he doesn't even own. 1. I played on garbage pc's which heavily ruined my states forever, 2. I specialize on xbox and have almost if not 600+ games in it.


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64sherman #2 Posted Mar 16 2019 - 01:47

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If by buff you mean make historically accurate tier 9 and replace it with something that can realistically compete with the new tier 10 tanks without having outrageously silly stats to make up for the fact that it is nothing like it appears in game, then, Yes.  

 

If you simply mean change a few stats and armor values expecting it to fix the vehicle, no. 

 

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cKy_ #3 Posted Mar 16 2019 - 01:49

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You are a very curious case. I'm going to assume that you rerolled, since you have never played the T110E5 (nor any other tier 10) on that account. But you still play fairly regularly on that account, and you play badly on it. What's the deal?

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You, Mister cKy, just suffered a massive rush of "Oh my gosh I didn't tell you my actual Xbox account", Because I forgot :hiding:. It's Modestquasar83 and you will find my performance to be Unicum state's

Edited by godspeed40, Mar 16 2019 - 01:53.


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View PostcKy_, on Mar 15 2019 - 18:49, said:

You are a very curious case. I'm going to assume that you rerolled, since you have never played the T110E5 (nor any other tier 10) on that account. But you still play fairly regularly on that account, and you play badly on it. What's the deal?

 

He literally said he rerolled in the OP. This is not ground breaking.  

I also love when people don't address the topic (The T110E5 is overtiered garbage that could only ever be a tier 10 by having absurd statistics that have no basis what so ever.) and instead bring up stats and generally just attack the OP and not his argument.  



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l understand you maybe shy and bashful. That is fine. Can you link us the real account with the T110E5?  You can blot out the name so we don't see.

 

T110E5 is fine, how it is l think. They just need to increase the gun depression to -9,  and side armour to 76mm.

More importantly, super conqueror, FV201, object 260, WZ1115A, object 277, Type 5 need nerfs. These are the real problems.

 

Leopard 1, AMX30B, Panzerwagon, Kran van, E100, lS4....there are plenty of terrible tier 10 tanks,  worse than T110E5

 



F1O1 #7 Posted Mar 16 2019 - 02:02

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Why not use the console forums?

Console world of tanks is alot different 

 



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View Post64sherman, on Mar 16 2019 - 12:55, said:

 

He literally said he rerolled in the OP. This is not ground breaking.  

I also love when people don't address the topic (The T110E5 is overtiered garbage that could only ever be a tier 10 by having absurd statistics that have no basis what so ever.) and instead bring up stats and generally just attack the OP and not his argument.  

 

He edited it after my comment.

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View Postgodspeed40, on Mar 16 2019 - 12:53, said:

You, Mister cKy, just suffered a massive rush of "Oh my gosh I didn't tell you my actual Xbox account", Because I forgot :hiding:. It's Modestquasar83 and you will find my performance to be Unicum state's

 

Yeah, on Xbox though. Not quite the same, now is it?

godspeed40 #10 Posted Mar 16 2019 - 02:06

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View PostcKy_, on Mar 16 2019 - 01:02, said:

 

He edited it after my comment.

 

I literally only edited "almost if 600+ games in it." to "almost if not 600+ games in it.". What's your problem? Did you even read my comment through? If you had, you would have notice only one two letter word was added for grammar reasons.

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View Postgodspeed40, on Mar 16 2019 - 13:06, said:

 

I literally only edited "almost if 600+ games in it." to "almost if not 600+ games in it.". 

 

No mate. Don't even try.

godspeed40 #12 Posted Mar 16 2019 - 02:20

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View PostF1O1, on Mar 16 2019 - 01:01, said:

l understand you maybe shy and bashful. That is fine. Can you link us the real account with the T110E5?  You can blot out the name so we don't see.

 

T110E5 is fine, how it is l think. They just need to increase the gun depression to -9,  and side armour to 76mm.

More importantly, super conqueror, FV201, object 260, WZ1115A, object 277, Type 5 need nerfs. These are the real problems.

 

Leopard 1, AMX30B, Panzerwagon, Kran van, E100, lS4....there are plenty of terrible tier 10 tanks,  worse than T110E5

 

 

That is a start, but will not save the tank or make it competitive. I say all those tanks are better then the T110e5 except the Leopard 1 and the Panzerwagon. Those changes would be fine if they would nerf those tanks, but we can assume there not going to do that.

 

I would suggest moving the copula to the back of the turret, this way it can be excellent hull down without needing a copula buff with the added benefit of avoiding all the hypocritical whiners who will complain about a monster hull down tank, since many other heavies and even mediums are guilty of this. 

 

It needs a max speed buff, it is among a few tanks that surrender something to gain something, but the minuscule mobility advantage it has over something like the SP is not justified and a horrible trade, a 3-5 kph buff would be good.

 

A minuscule rate of fire buff is in order. Tanks with higher dps guns are dealing more dpm then the T11oe5, this is unacceptable. It also needs a minor accuracy buff, there's no reason why it shouldn't have as much accuracy as an amx 50b, it doesn't have anything that justifies worse accuracy.

 

You and I are on the same page on the side armor buff, it MUST be able to sidescrape, and let's forget the completely unwarranted armor nerf behind the front cogwheel. 

 

The T11oe5 is perfectly balanced, but wargaming has thrown balance out the window so everything has to excel in all categories or be subpar in only one. It has to have more then an gun depression and side armor buff to have any hope ofbeing relevant again. I believe these changes would bring it up to speed without giving the whine patrol something justifiably overpowered.

 

 

 

 

 


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View PostcKy_, on Mar 16 2019 - 01:09, said:

 

No mate. Don't even try.

 

Did I stutter, that's what I did, it's not my fault you can't see that EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE POST IS THE EXACT SAME!

godspeed40 #14 Posted Mar 16 2019 - 02:24

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View PostF1O1, on Mar 16 2019 - 01:02, said:

Why not use the console forums?

Console world of tanks is alot different 

 

 

I don't just want the betterment of the console version, but of the pc version as well. I may have left long ago and am definitely in greener pastures as of right now, but I won't forget where I got my start and will always try to add good suggestion. Also, if it isn't very good in console world of tanks, it will probably suck on the pc version and it seems like the pc populace agrees since you see it so little it barely registers on the brainwaves.

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View PostF1O1, on Mar 16 2019 - 01:01, said:

l understand you maybe shy and bashful. That is fine. Can you link us the real account with the T110E5?  You can blot out the name so we don't see.

 

T110E5 is fine, how it is l think. They just need to increase the gun depression to -9,  and side armour to 76mm.

More importantly, super conqueror, FV201, object 260, WZ1115A, object 277, Type 5 need nerfs. These are the real problems.

 

Leopard 1, AMX30B, Panzerwagon, Kran van, E100, lS4....there are plenty of terrible tier 10 tanks,  worse than T110E5

 

Are you joking, or can you not believe that my munchkin self could ever perform at such a level;)

I'm saying this in a joking manure, I'm not angry or anything.


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View Post64sherman, on Mar 16 2019 - 00:55, said:

 

He literally said he rerolled in the OP. This is not ground breaking.  

I also love when people don't address the topic

and not his argument.  

 

What topic is there to address?  ln most respects, T110E5 is an average tank. That is what balance should strive to be. Averaged out

 

Leopard, AMX30B, lS4  are terrible tanks right now. Far worse than T110E5. 



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https://www.youtube....h?v=VbUwu9ma1bg

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=Otn2dfyaKDo

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=DQ7x-suaJMQ

 

 

The tank is fine. Just because a tank is not an excellent one, like WZ1115A or object 277, does not make it characteristically bad all of a sudden. Balance is middle ground. lt is not just great and bad. Just pick your fights, deploy yourself properly, and the tank is fine

Remove FV201 and Super conqueror, and all of a sudden T110E5 becomes good again.

Remove obj 260, 277, WZ1115A,  and all of a sudden 113 and lS7 are back and good.

 

This game has horrible concepts in conceiving balance.

 

 



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View PostF1O1, on Mar 16 2019 - 01:32, said:

 

What topic is there to address?  ln most respects, T110E5 is an average tank. That is what balance should strive to be. Averaged out

 

Leopard, AMX30B, lS4  are terrible tanks right now. Far worse than T110E5. 

 

Well, statistically The argument can be made they are worse then the T11oe5, but the populace doesn't seem to acknowledge that the T11oe5 exists. I often see AMX30B's running around the battleground, with the semi-occasional IS4 and Leopard. I guess because the general populace can make those tanks work in most cases. I can tell you, I play the crap out of the tank and make it work like a dream, but it's living hell doing it, my love for the tank keeps me with it and willing to burst some braincells to get It done. The T11oe5 is average, I'd argue it's above average of average, that's how everything should be. I don't want stupid uber tanks running the battlefield and I don't want hard work to not be necessary to play the T11oe5, if everyone could suddenly do what I slave away to do in an instant I'd be pretty jelly about it. But wargaming doesn't agree sadly, because who would spend money or waste time to get the next average tank?   


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I want to stress that I don't want this tank buffed because I suck in it. I consider myself a god with the tank (pride much?). But just because I can make it work doesn't mean it's a good tank. What this tank can do, a half to full-dozen can do the same thing and do it better. I shudder to think what I could do if I grabbed myself a SuperConquer, which is why I haven't actually gotten myself one since I like to be challenged. The only reason I'm advocating for buffs is the direction of the game, with new tanks always raising the bare the older tanks are left dragging their feet (or tracks) catching up. Literally, all they really have to contend with is that huge, weak sauce copula. If it could actually go hull down and hide it's weak lower plate much more people would use it, but it's rate of fire would force thoughtful play since it's not stupid like the SP and the enemy can push you.  

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View Postgodspeed40, on Mar 15 2019 - 18:53, said:

I consider myself a god with the tank (pride much?).
I shudder to think what I could do if I grabbed myself a SuperConquer

I shudder when I think about the size of the OP's cranium.

 

If they didn't flaunt their dubious personal stats at every opportunity, and instead used actual objective statistics (which are widely available) to prove their point, there might have been more for me to say.

 

Also, their use of the classic garbage PC argument, to me, makes their "unicum on console" claims even more suspicious. Personally, I have played on ancient computers at relatives' homes, and not noticed much of a difference in my performance at all.






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