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ChaosKampf #1 Posted Mar 24 2019 - 20:55

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Played 9 "Random" Matches this morning before getting enraged and quitting. And no, this isn't just today. It is a constant reality of playing your otherwise fine game. I just finally got mad enough to actually write down the matchmaker results for once...

 

 

Match 1

Green- 58%-52% -rest 48% and under

Red- 57%-56%-55%-56%-51% -rest 49% and under

 

Match 2

Green- 53%-52% -rest of team 48%and under

Red- 52%-52%-53%-52%-52%

 

 

Match 3

Green- one 57% -rest of team 49% and under

Red- 55%-54%-53%55%-58%-52%-52%-52% (especially ridiculous MM'ing)

 

Match 4

Green- 52%-55%-53%- Rest 49% and under

Red- 56%-57%-53%-50%-52%-51%-52%  (Is this a joke to you guys?)

 

Match 5

Green- 54%-56%-52%-53%-53%-51%-52%

Red- 51%-54%-54% -rest of team under 50% 

 

Match 6

Green- 52%-50% -rest of team 49% and under

Red- 52%-54%-52%-54%-56%....

 

IMO, this is causing far more issues than the 3-5-7 thing.

 


Edited by ChaosKampf, Mar 24 2019 - 22:01.


TDRHooRaH #2 Posted Mar 24 2019 - 20:59

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Do More Damage.

ChaosKampf #3 Posted Mar 24 2019 - 21:05

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View PostTDRHooRaH, on Mar 24 2019 - 13:59, said:

Do More Damage.

 

As I said, hard to do when your team is filled with players who are so inexperienced that they don't even understand the role of their particular Tank, much less where to go on the maps, or anything else. I realize they have to learn how to play the game somehow, but there doesn't have to be ten or more of them on the same team.

 

I do well above the average rate of damage when placed with a team that knows what it is doing. Expert player? Far from it, and never will be... But I know the mechanics, and how to play the game far better than the 47% W/R I'm stuck at.

 



The_Illusive_Man #4 Posted Mar 24 2019 - 21:06

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Um, because MM doesnt care about stats? The only thing MM is supposed to care about is if you have been bottom tier x amount of times (which it doesnt right now)...

heavymetal1967 #5 Posted Mar 24 2019 - 21:08

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ChaosKampf #6 Posted Mar 24 2019 - 21:09

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View PostThe_Illusive_Man, on Mar 24 2019 - 14:06, said:

Um, because MM doesnt care about stats? The only thing MM is supposed to care about is if you have been bottom tier x amount of times (which it doesnt right now)...

 

Yes. That would account for the cycle of "3 crap teams, one good team. Three crap teams, one good team. Four crap teams, one good team" That is exactly my point, congratulations...

 



Insanefriend #7 Posted Mar 24 2019 - 21:13

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I've seen what your calling stacked teams with platoons from top clans get rolled by what you call the tomato team.  Just ditch xvm and the stats they don't make you play better, if anything they make people play worse.  As a player it is all to easy to get hung up in battle on the stats of other players.  You can go damn this is the other teams good player and tunnel vision.  Or you can be lured into a false sense this teammate has decent stats so if I do this they will see it's the right play and support.  Never mind under estimating the 45% player on the other team that might have just dug a early stats hole for them selves but has improved.  

 

Knowing the stats of the other players is just to unreliable to be something that is worth stressing your self out over.



kittikat #8 Posted Mar 24 2019 - 21:14

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welcome to the weekends? you've played enough games of WoT to know weekends are always the poop crowds.

 

when is WG going to fix these baddie forum posters is my question?



Atragon #9 Posted Mar 24 2019 - 21:14

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Get yourself a T28 F/30 load it with a good 5-6 skill crew with SA etc and Food , use Bino's, Vents and EGL - ENJOY

 

If someone complains, explain you are sick of having your tanks power crept.

 

Right now I am watching a streamer play his OP award tank with 3 enhanced pieces of equipment, food and directives. It is sickening.


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ChaosKampf #10 Posted Mar 24 2019 - 21:15

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View Postheavymetal1967, on Mar 24 2019 - 14:08, said:

It goes on the head not the hands.

 

Those three man platoons can be hell folks.

 

 

 

 

 

I wouldn't expect anything more from a professional Arty player. Especially one who is troll'ish enough to actually keep, and regularly play a 'Leffy".



ChaosKampf #11 Posted Mar 24 2019 - 21:19

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View PostInsanefriend, on Mar 24 2019 - 14:13, said:

I've seen what your calling stacked teams with platoons from top clans get rolled by what you call the tomato team.  Just ditch xvm and the stats they don't make you play better, if anything they make people play worse.

 

I've seen it plenty of times too, and I agree, knowing the stats doesn't help anything.

 

The purpose of this post was to ask why the Imbalance exists in the first place.

 



kittikat #12 Posted Mar 24 2019 - 21:23

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View PostChaosKampf, on Mar 24 2019 - 16:19, said:

 

I've seen it plenty of times too, and I agree, knowing the stats doesn't help anything.

 

The purpose of this post was to ask why the Imbalance exists in the first place.

 

 

Imbalance of what?

It's not imbalanced as far as putting same-level bodies against same-level bodies.
That's all matchmaking does.
It doesn't put able-skill against able-skill.
About as RNG as you're going to get. Though the end result doesn't usually provide RNG outcome in the game itself.

 

Sucks, but you deal with it (or not) and you get better at it (or not)



dmb47 #13 Posted Mar 24 2019 - 21:24

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Well, I have played 22 games so far this weekend and been bottom tier--21 times......So I do not have any idea what metrics they track for MM, but it sure as HELL does not try to balance your 3-5-7 out at all....

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View PostChaosKampf, on Mar 24 2019 - 20:09, said:

 

Yes. That would account for the cycle of "3 crap teams, one good team. Three crap teams, one good team. Four crap teams, one good team" That is exactly my point, congratulations...

 

 

Well, there you go. You've figured out the pattern.

So, since you're really not concerned with stats but with being able to play "good" matches, you could "sui-scout" for those 3 "crap" teams (at least you're be somewhat useful to your team rather than just drowning or jumping of a cliff) knowing that the next game will be a "good" one. Then, "sui-scout" 3 games and play the next. "Sui-scout", play, and repeat.



ChaosKampf #15 Posted Mar 24 2019 - 22:15

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Sui-scouting does no good when the other guys on your team won't come out from behind their rocks long enough to shoot at anything.

 



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View PostChaosKampf, on Mar 24 2019 - 15:15, said:

Sui-scouting does no good when the other guys on your team won't come out from behind their rocks long enough to shoot at anything.

 

 

that is where the red teams arty comes

_Tsavo_ #17 Posted Mar 24 2019 - 22:58

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Teams are potato, who knew?  Want more wins?   Buckle down and drag them taters to the win

fodder49s #18 Posted Mar 24 2019 - 23:02

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Ditch xvm, sir. Nothing good comes of it. I actually saw a teammate drown a full health type 5 this morning because he didn't like what xvm was telling him. You don't want to wind up like him, do you?

 



__xXKingXx__ #19 Posted Mar 24 2019 - 23:18

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You are a 47% too, so i don't see any problems about your team mates. Or you learn to play the game and start carrying the teams or stop crying in the fórum because you want to be carried.

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View PostChaosKampf, on Mar 24 2019 - 14:19, said:

 

The purpose of this post was to ask why the Imbalance exists in the first place.

 

 

Because that's the definition of random

View PostChaosKampf, on Mar 24 2019 - 15:15, said:

Sui-scouting does no good when the other guys on your team won't come out from behind their rocks long enough to shoot at anything.

 

 

Suiscouting does no good ever under any circumstance. The fact that you don't seem to understand this basic fact refutes your claim that you know "how to play the game far better than the 47% W/R I'm stuck at". As does the fact that you're "stuck" at 47% obviously. Perhaps if you were to quit telling yourself that you're better than you actually are you'll stop looking around at everyone else to explain your frustration.

 






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