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[ST] Type 4 & Type 5 Heavy + FV4005 Rebalance, first stage


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BlackWolfs #101 Posted Apr 30 2019 - 15:52

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After this update 1.5 i hit a EBR with hesh it did 61 damage with my type 5..  This update just made me want to stop playing the type 5.

Personality #102 Posted Apr 30 2019 - 19:02

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View PostPooperScooper762, on Apr 29 2019 - 14:13, said:

 

Stop downplaying the Grille 15. It's obvious your [edited]opinion is just based on how crapyou are in the tank.

 

Grille is a terrible tank. Literally anyone with a working iq and a green wn8 can figure this out

PooperScooper762 #103 Posted Apr 30 2019 - 23:01

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View PostAvalon304, on Apr 29 2019 - 23:17, said:

 

The Grille is garbage. You can ask pretty much anyone, even the best players in the game and you'll likely get the same answer. Its not a good TD and its not a good tank.

 

It's pretty sad that "ask anyone" is your best argument. If you can't think for yourself, then stop talking.

PooperScooper762 #104 Posted Apr 30 2019 - 23:09

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View PostPersonality, on Apr 30 2019 - 19:02, said:

 

Grille is a terrible tank. Literally anyone with a working iq and a green wn8 can figure this out

 

You're seriously calling me stupid when you can't even use proper grammar in your tiny sentence? Also you don't even have green wn8, so by your logic, you can't figure it out. Makes perfect sense.

Snakebyte77 #105 Posted May 01 2019 - 03:37

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The type 5 is utterly useless now especially for advances.  It belongs in the bottom of the lake.  No more of my money will go to wargaming ever again.

Maltfourti #106 Posted May 01 2019 - 14:00

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View PostAvalon304, on Apr 30 2019 - 01:22, said:

 

The Type 5's 14cm gun is pretty good now.

 

It needs more attention.At least on the prem round. I just had 3 matches where I managed to deal NO damage. This was against hvys and a couple of 430U's. And one match where I managed 2 whole damaging shots because a hvy let me catch it's lower front plate a couple times. I'm thinking about trying the 14cm with a full HE loadout...

Duke_Nuke_Em_Cammando #107 Posted May 01 2019 - 15:46

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View PostThe_Wild_Weasel, on Mar 29 2019 - 16:58, said:

Bait and switch .....

 

I stopped playing this game long ago..... 

 

so many better games out there....

 

 

 

​but you came back to this site to comment about that hmmm seems legit troll :/

Baphomet93 #108 Posted May 03 2019 - 02:43

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Thank you so much. You took a tank on which I get Fire For Effect less than half the time and decided to turn it into a giant piece of garbage. You ruin the Type 5's 15cm ammo (BTW why does your now crap ammo still cost the same?) and "compensate" by making the 14cm gun still have the most garbage pen of any tier 10 heavy. What was your reasoning for even doing this? From what I see some people seem to just hate the way HE ammo works so maybe get rid of all HE and HESH ammo and really make the whiners happy. I put in a lot of time and effort to have a tank that is now only qualified to be a garbage truck. 

Avalon304 #109 Posted May 03 2019 - 07:28

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View PostMaltfourti, on May 01 2019 - 06:00, said:

 

It needs more attention.At least on the prem round. I just had 3 matches where I managed to deal NO damage. This was against hvys and a couple of 430U's. And one match where I managed 2 whole damaging shots because a hvy let me catch it's lower front plate a couple times. I'm thinking about trying the 14cm with a full HE loadout...

 

I mean you could use the 14cm with a full HE load out... but it would literally be worse than the 15cm... so like if youre gonna full HE anyway... just use the 15cm. The only reason to use the 14cm is if you want to actually aim and make use of skill.



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Fv4005: who the moron think reduce the back speed from 12km to 8km ???? , Now each time you shot and want to run back to hide back a house or any items to hide , you take 2 or 4 hits direct in the face!

             ok you scrapp average dmg -100 in prevous patch , you reduce front top speed , engine power  ... but omg why you touch to the back speed???? if i remember Arty move more fast on back speed of FV4005 now. its not Redicullious?

 

For Type 5 , He never make the DMG you read in stats gun. 900 dmg = 250 to 400 if you have some luck ! each time i read He derp its for no aiming players , dont forget its take 2 to 4 sec more time to reload of your AP gun on the other heavy tier 10 , is make less dmg , big time at Aim and now is reduce the HE gold dmg ... Type 5 r dead now! same for type 4.

 

reason , simple , slow , long time reload , small AP of the 14cm gun , big aiming time afther you move .  and dont forget , WG make a Patch one day and now all tanks able to block or rebon HE from a type 5. i already shot on an arty and is block 100% of the dmg HE Before the last update...

 

 



Sully83 #111 Posted May 05 2019 - 23:57

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update 1.5 came out, type5 went up for sale, simple as that. If your grinding that line stop wasting your time. Everyone went that line for the derp, now the derp is no better than a tier 6's no reason to keep that slow super heavy.

23X3 #112 Posted May 06 2019 - 02:40

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Thanks for massing up the type 5 went from ok to shi.. tank is to under gun fix it 

bad_73 #113 Posted May 06 2019 - 02:58

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Please return all the credits and xp I used for this line.

Skofnung #114 Posted May 06 2019 - 05:31

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FV 4005 was a trash TD that had a killer gun to make up for its shortcomings.  Now, its not even worth playing.

 

The Types were both built around that derp.  Really, all that needed to be done, was to soften up that armor a bit.  They didn't have to aim for weakspots on opponents, while being nearly immune to every incoming shot that wasn't a high pen premium.  Make their weakspots more viable for standard ammo to pen, and maybe soften up the lower plate a touch, and they would have been fine even with that big damage derp.  As it is now, they play as a superheavy with a TERRIBLE derp, or play with the 14cm and you get the lowest pen of any of the other tier 10 heavies.  What is the point anymore?



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Im not sure why making the Type 5 a useless piece of crap is a good idea.  It was never that OP to begin with imo.  I always looked at them as more of a counter to the OP Russian heavies and their friends.  It kept from just sitting immune in some hull down spot or good side scrape position.  One thing that I thought would have been better was to make a counter to the derps.   Make the spall liners more effective versus direct HE hits. That gives you a choice.  Drop a piece of gear to make the derps less effective or risk getting hit for 4-500 damage from the derp if you run into a 5.  The gold round on the Type 5 is a joke imo compared to the gold rounds getting fired at it anyways.  I hit you once ever 17 seconds for 400 or so on average.. You shoot me with gold for more damage per hit and faster rate of fire. I'm not sure how that make the Type 5 OP.  

Maltfourti #116 Posted May 07 2019 - 00:10

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View PostRokchewer, on May 06 2019 - 08:36, said:

Im not sure why making the Type 5 a useless piece of crap is a good idea.  

Because all the hulldown Russian hvys cried. A lot. That cannot be allowed under company policy.

 



tiggee #117 Posted May 18 2019 - 21:17

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well I have to agree with most here the Type 4 is not fun to play I wasted a lot of grind time to this tank , 1st time i need money I will have to sell it.

XturbohawkX #118 Posted May 20 2019 - 17:06

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View PostTheOxiCleanGuy, on Mar 29 2019 - 18:27, said:

Please for the love of god, just remove the 15cm HE gun from the Type 4 & 5 and buff the 14cm gun to have ~260 pen on the normal round and ~300-310 on the special round. The mobility buff seems alright too, but the biggest problem with that tank is the cancerous gameplay it promotes.

 

Why remove this gun that is slow to reload, does at most HALF of the stated damage on anything but an LT or arty, yet has LESS ARMOR THAN A RUSSIAN MEDIUM?? Armor should have been increased on the frontal and turret to a MINIMUM of 350mm!!! WG broke the balance to an exponential level here.
 


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View PostMaltfourti, on May 07 2019 - 00:10, said:

Because all the hulldown Russian hvys cried. A lot. That cannot be allowed under company policy.

 

 

 

Afterall, what part of SUPERHEAVY does WG not understand? (and the rest of the rushkin loyalists)

 


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The Type 5 Heavy is no longer useful against any other heavy tanks.  It either needs buffed or dropped down to tier 8, because that is basically what it is now. 




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