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The_Illusive_Man #1 Posted Apr 10 2019 - 12:44

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So, for those that dont know, we have never had a real image of a Black Hole before. Now we do. It will be live streamed on YT:

Spoiler

 

Here is the original post, and YT video:

 

So, this will go live at 9am ET (1H 15 minutes). 

 

CANT WAIT!!!

 

Spoiler

^^ Full video


Edited by The_Illusive_Man, Apr 10 2019 - 15:08.


SynfulSun #2 Posted Apr 10 2019 - 12:47

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Sadly, I will be at work by then, but hopefully they leave a video up for me to watch later.

The_Illusive_Man #3 Posted Apr 10 2019 - 12:51

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View PostSynfulSun, on Apr 10 2019 - 08:47, said:

Sadly, I will be at work by then, but hopefully they leave a video up for me to watch later.

 

Ill leave a link here if possible for you...

heavymetal1967 #4 Posted Apr 10 2019 - 13:10

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Thanks OP, plus one.

 

Anyone remember this film?

 



__WarChild__ #5 Posted Apr 10 2019 - 13:24

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View Postheavymetal1967, on Apr 10 2019 - 06:10, said:

Thanks OP, plus one.

 

Anyone remember this film?

 

 

OMG, I totally forgot about that film but I loved it at the time.  Miss being a kid.

 

Thanks for posting this too!



GenPanzer #6 Posted Apr 10 2019 - 14:05

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Here's a prediction..



LeaveIT2Beaver #7 Posted Apr 10 2019 - 14:10

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Screenshot of black hole image


Edited by PepperidgeFarmGuy, Apr 10 2019 - 14:11.


YANKEE137 #8 Posted Apr 10 2019 - 14:18

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NutrientibusMeaGallus #9 Posted Apr 10 2019 - 14:25

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View PostPepperidgeFarmGuy, on Apr 10 2019 - 08:10, said:

Screenshot of black hole image

 

  It looks like my wallet..... money goes in and disappears forever...... Oh wait...... it's the premium shop! :P

 


Edited by NutrientibusMeaGallus, Apr 10 2019 - 14:28.


The_Illusive_Man #10 Posted Apr 10 2019 - 15:09

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Full video added to the OP.

GeorgePreddy #11 Posted Apr 10 2019 - 15:49

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The MAIN thing is... it's another win for General Relativity... yay !!

 

There was a lot riding on Einstein winning a Nobel prize. Beyond his academic reputation, and that of the Nobel Institute for recognising greatness, the wellbeing of his former wife and their two sons depended upon it.

 

In the aftermath of the first world war, defeated Germany was being consumed by hyper-inflation. The government was printing more money to pay the war reparations and, as a result, the mark went into freefall against foreign currencies. Living in Berlin, Einstein was naturally affected by the crisis.

 

He had divorced Mileva in 1919, several years after she had returned to Switzerland with the boys, Hans-Albert and Eduard. As part of the settlement, Einstein pledged any eventual Nobel prize money to her for their upkeep. As the hyper-inflation bit ever deeper, so he needed that cash.

 

By this time, Einstein had a decade's worth of Nobel nominations behind him. Yet each year, to mounting criticism, the committee decided against his work on the grounds that relativity was unproven. In 1919, that changed. Cambridge astrophysicist Arthur Eddington famously used a total eclipse to measure the deflection of stars' positions near the Sun. The size of the deflection was exactly as Einstein had predicted from relativity in 1915. The prize should have been his, but the committee snubbed him again.

Why? Because now dark forces were at work.

 

Antisemitism was on the rise in Germany; Jews were being scapegoated for the country's defeat in the war. As both Jew and pacifist, Einstein was an obvious target. The complexity of relativity did not help either. Opponents such as Ernst Gehrcke and Philipp Lenard found it easy to cast doubt upon its labyrinthine mathematics.

 

The situation reached crisis point in 1921 when, paralysed by indecision, the Nobel Committee decided it was better not to award a prize at all than to give it to relativity. The arguments raged for another year until a compromise was reached.

 

At the suggestion of Carl Wilhelm Oseen, Einstein would receive the deferred 1921 prize, but not for relativity. He would be given it for his explanation of the photoelectric effect, a phenomenon in which electrons are emitted from a metal sheet only under certain illuminations. The work had been published back in 1905.

 

It has been argued that this work, which introduced the concept of photons, has had more impact than relativity. I'm not sure. With relativity, Einstein gave us a way to understand the Universe as a whole. It was a staggering leap forward in our intellectual capability.

 

The Nobel citation reads that Einstein is honoured for "services to theoretical physics, and especially for his discovery of the law of the photoelectric effect". At first glance, the reference to theoretical physics could have been a back door through which the committee acknowledged relativity. However, there was a caveat stating that the award was presented "without taking into account the value that will be accorded your relativity and gravitation theories after these are confirmed in the future".

 

To many, and to Einstein himself, this felt like a slap in the face. Hadn't Eddington proved the theory? Yes, but the trouble was Eddington's observations had not been perfect and he had discarded data he considered poor from his final analysis. To some, as related in Jeffrey Crelinsten's Einstein's Jury, this smacked of cooking the books in Einstein's favour. In reality it was just good scientific practice.

 

There is also another way to read the Nobel caveat. Could it have been that the committee was leaving the door open for a second Nobel prize in the future, once relativity had been more rigorously tested? We will never know. As Einstein's fame spread, so he alienated himself from the physics community by refusing to accept quantum theory. A Nobel prize for relativity was never awarded.

 

The final twist in this story is that Einstein did not attend his prize giving. Despite being informed that he was about to receive the prize, he chose to continue with a lecture tour of Japan. Partly, this was because he no longer valued the prize and partly it was because he needed to disappear.

 

German foreign minister Walther Rathenau had been murdered by anti-Semites. In the subsequent investigation, the police had found Einstein's name on a list of targets. In the face of such a death treat, leaving Germany to spend months in the Far East, rather than a few days in Stockholm, must have seemed prudent.

 

In the end, perhaps the best thing that came out of Einstein's Nobel prize was the money. It went towards keeping Mileva and the boys secure, and became essential when Eduard developed schizophrenia as a young adult and needed to be hospitalised.

 

 

 

 



LeaveIT2Beaver #12 Posted Apr 10 2019 - 15:58

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View Postheavymetal1967, on Apr 10 2019 - 07:10, said:

Thanks OP, plus one.

 

Anyone remember this film?

 

 

The scientist in the event referred to this movie and said he saw it as a child with his father and it moved him to science!

HOTA_CHATON #13 Posted Apr 10 2019 - 16:06

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View PostThe_Illusive_Man, on Apr 10 2019 - 05:44, said:

So, for those that dont know, we have never had a real image of a Black Hole before. Now we do. It will be live streamed on YT:

Spoiler

 

Here is the original post, and YT video:

 

So, this will go live at 9am ET (1H 15 minutes). 

 

CANT WAIT!!!

 

Spoiler

^^ Full video

 

So they have been hypothesizing, all these years, about something they have never actually seen, for all these years?  Sounds about right for our scientific communities, around the globe.  Lots of them also believe in climate change too.  LOL

Klaatu_Nicto #14 Posted Apr 10 2019 - 16:24

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The past 60 years have been a great time to be alive for us baby boomers. We got to see the first human orbit the earth, the first man human to step on the moon, the first pictures from the surface of Mars, the first close up pictures of the outer planets and now the first image of a black hole. 



The_Illusive_Man #15 Posted Apr 10 2019 - 16:45

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View PostHOTA_CHATON, on Apr 10 2019 - 12:06, said:

 

So they have been hypothesizing, all these years, about something they have never actually seen, for all these years?  Sounds about right for our scientific communities, around the globe.  Lots of them also believe in climate change too.  LOL

 

We have been able to see evidence of black holes. Even take some pictures of the orbits. This is the first image of the "Last Photon Orbit", or better known as the "Event Horizon". Never before seen. As for Climate Change? We have proof of that.

 

Maybe you believe that the world is flat?



_ShakeNBake_ #16 Posted Apr 10 2019 - 16:51

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View PostHOTA_CHATON, on Apr 10 2019 - 08:06, said:

 

So they have been hypothesizing, all these years, about something they have never actually seen, for all these years?  Sounds about right for our scientific communities, around the globe.  Lots of them also believe in climate change too.  LOL

 

They theorized and were then proven correct.

They also theorize about climate change...



Klaatu_Nicto #17 Posted Apr 10 2019 - 16:57

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No need to theorize about climate change. Paleoclimatology shows that climate always changes.

dont_ping_me #18 Posted Apr 10 2019 - 17:15

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View PostPepperidgeFarmGuy, on Apr 10 2019 - 08:10, said:

Screenshot of black hole image

Mmmmmmm douhgnuts.



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View PostThe_Illusive_Man, on Apr 10 2019 - 16:45, said:

 

We have been able to see evidence of black holes. Even take some pictures of the orbits. This is the first image of the "Last Photon Orbit", or better known as the "Event Horizon". Never before seen. As for Climate Change? We have proof of that.

 

Maybe you believe that the world is flat?

 

yes, the earths climate does indeed change. up and down, it ALWAYS has. but the "proof" that you speak of is nothing more than an attempt by criminals to dupe the stupids out of more of their money in the form of a carbon tax. 

 

 



HOTA_CHATON #20 Posted Apr 10 2019 - 18:39

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View PostKlaatu_Nicto, on Apr 10 2019 - 09:57, said:

No need to theorize about climate change. Paleoclimatology shows that climate always changes.

 

Ah, yes it does and will never stop.  It's just not like what Al Gore wants you to buy off into is all.  Plus all this was predicted in the Bible and is coming to pass right before your very eyes. Nope, the world is just as round as it can be and it is much older than most scientists believe.  If people really believe that we or this is the first life on this work, that started at approximately 10 K years ago, they are crazier than the horse they rode in on.  I just personally don't believe they know what they are talking about yet.  Given enough time, I am sure it will all be figured out but not the way the think.   






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