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light tanks op in FL nerf light tanks in FL why hasnt it been fixed?

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ZombieTanker007 #21 Posted Apr 21 2019 - 14:49

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View PostRacWisco, on Apr 21 2019 - 01:09, said:

 

So play a light and quit griping?

 

I love answers like this one.  It goes in line with MM is fine the way it is, you just need to be better.  Its not about whether or not I should play a light tank, but rather the fact that lights played by even the most incompetent players can dominate the game.  Why should someone be forced to play a light tank in order to be able to get a decent score??  They shouldn't, everyone should have an equal chance which isn't the case right now.

the_dude_76 #22 Posted Apr 21 2019 - 15:46

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View PostZombieTanker007, on Apr 21 2019 - 07:47, said:

 

I owe you an apology, I went back and looked at the replay from the game and while there were 5 total generals, there was only 1 GoA per team.

 

You don't owe me an apology, it was a simple mistake...

oxf_and_bucks #23 Posted Apr 21 2019 - 18:40

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View PostZombieTanker007, on Apr 21 2019 - 14:49, said:

 

I love answers like this one.  It goes in line with MM is fine the way it is, you just need to be better.  Its not about whether or not I should play a light tank, but rather the fact that lights played by even the most incompetent players can dominate the game.  Why should someone be forced to play a light tank in order to be able to get a decent score??  They shouldn't, everyone should have an equal chance which isn't the case right now.

 

While it is a pithy answer,the sentiment is right.

 

The game meta quite often changes depending on what WG does.You can either adapt to the change,or just stay frustrated.



My_Name_Is_Nobody_ #24 Posted Apr 21 2019 - 19:07

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yes, Wheelies are pathetically ridiculous. The problem is... it's just simply more intelligent to NOT engage them. You blow 1000-4000 credits by firing at them (you will most certainly do no damage the vast majority).

 

Simply put, as it stands - for me - is that it is smarter to not move and let them smoke u. This way I save (make) 2-8 k in credits every time I am unlucky enough to engage them.


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View PostZombieTanker007, on Apr 20 2019 - 21:54, said:

As the title says, light tanks are beyond overpowered in Frontlines.  Out of roughly 20 games I've played this weekend, and out of those games GoA was awarded to people playing lights in all but one game.  My last game there were 3 GoA's, all went to people playing lights.  I have seen exactly 1 GoA awarded to someone who did not play a light tank at all.

 

One thing that I noticed is when an ELC Even 90 was taking out the turret 5 from the far right side of the map.  Why does a shell from a light tank able to even damage a turret from the side, much less from over 300m away?  Is there some sort of terrain exploit that removes dispersion from lights around the final objectives?  It is absurd how easy it is for a light to almost single handedly win a game.

 

That was probably me.  :)  I was at the edge of that rock, behind a tiny bush firing premium rounds at the back edge of the structure getting about 80% pen rates.  Yes, it is broken - I needed ONE more shot to kill it before I died.  Lol.  It took a LONG time to pink at it, though.  If it was a Scorpion G, it would be dead in under 60 seconds.  I think I was at about 400m from it at the time, so anyone on the opposite ridge would be another 100-200m farther and well beyond draw range.  I was.. I wonder if I can... oh! It shows green?  OK... I guess I'll hit the turret!


I'm the only EVEN 90 player I know of that uses it like a passive sniper in FL - because it's possible to do so.  Lights are very OP in open maps like FL as there are many places to hide and ambush from.


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Goat_Rodeo #26 Posted Apr 21 2019 - 21:36

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View PostZombieTanker007, on Apr 20 2019 - 22:33, said:

Last game 6 GoS's, 5 of them played lights.  Nope, nothing wrong with this picture.

 

Only thing wrong with this picture is you have literally a handful of battles, none in lights and denounce them OP. There is such a thing as an informed opinion. 

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the funny thing is people acting like players playing their light tanks not as scouts is new.  i remember the good old days of the t50-2 that was quick enough to get behind enemy lines and go after TD and arty.  people will play their tanks how they want or how they feel they are successful, no amount of complaining here is going to change that.  now unless you can convince WG they need to take the guns off of some light tanks and make them better scouts then go for it.  people will just switch from lights to mediums and you will end up with a class of tanks that doesnt get played much unless they are going after scouting missions

SquishySupreme #28 Posted Apr 21 2019 - 23:01

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The fix for FL is to make the turrets only able to be penned from the rear.  Being able to take a WT or G, load premium ammo and lob shells into the objectives from outside of the zone is simply a bug.

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View PostGoat_Rodeo, on Apr 21 2019 - 14:36, said:

 

Only thing wrong with this picture is you have literally a handful of battles, none in lights and denounce them OP. There is such a thing as an informed opinion. 

 

You fail to consider that he is posting from an alt account.

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View PostIronmike11B, on Apr 21 2019 - 23:12, said:

 

You fail to consider that he is posting from an alt account.

 

We all know he's posting from an alt account, duh. That's even more reason to not take anything he says seriously. 

Goat_Rodeo #31 Posted Apr 22 2019 - 01:28

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View PostIronmike11B, on Apr 21 2019 - 22:12, said:

 

You fail to consider that he is posting from an alt account.

 

It’s a weird alt though with a number of tier 8 prems. But when people hide behind alt accounts, it’s kinda hard to take them seriously. 

Ironmike11B #32 Posted Apr 22 2019 - 01:30

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View PostExiledcrow, on Apr 21 2019 - 17:20, said:

 

We all know he's posting from an alt account, duh. That's even more reason to not take anything he says seriously. 

 

I was talking to Goat_Rodeo

RacWisco #33 Posted Apr 22 2019 - 01:37

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The only thing I never her people griping about is heavies. But it seems like heavy players do most of the griping. If they cant go to their fake castle and get their peek a boom and side scrape fix.

Full_Mental_Jackass #34 Posted Apr 22 2019 - 01:40

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Turret side armour is getting an increase next iteration.

 

It's being tested on the ASIA server for this round.

 

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Improved Pillbox Armour

Your pillboxes will have their turrets' side armour increased from 160 to 180mm, giving them some much-needed protection from light tanks, who will now have to risk more behind enemy lines. In addition, high-angle shots by TDs from a distance will no longer be able to penetrate them."



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View PostRacWisco, on Apr 21 2019 - 18:37, said:

The only thing I never her people griping about is heavies. But it seems like heavy players do most of the griping. If they cant go to their fake castle and get their peek a boom and side scrape fix.

 

The problem with heavies is that they got what they wanted: less corridor maps. Well they got arguably the least corridor map possible. Heavies are slow and depend on being attacked from the front. Now, they are way more open on the sides and rear. The wheelies and lights are tearing them up.

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View PostIronmike11B, on Apr 21 2019 - 16:52, said:

 

The problem with heavies is that they got what they wanted: less corridor maps. Well they got arguably the least corridor map possible. Heavies are slow and depend on being attacked from the front. Now, they are way more open on the sides and rear. The wheelies and lights are taring them up.

 

I think this is exactly right about the heavies in general.  In the real world, "heavy" and "super-heavy" gave way to faster, nimbler vehicles.  Today we're seeing this move down the the level of "technicals"...Toyota pick-up trucks and aircraft (soon drones i'll bet you).  There was a reason why this happened and while WoT isn't a simulator game...the modeling that is here creates the same outcome. The heavy/super-heavy NEEDS corridor or city maps to survive, the other classes do not and to an extent THEIR game play suffers as a result particularly lights (and wheels) and artillery.  Mediums function but not as well head on with the heavies.

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View PostIronmike11B, on Apr 22 2019 - 01:30, said:

 

I was talking to Goat_Rodeo

 

Then address him in a PM not an open forum if you want it to be a private conversation.

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Glad you liked it. No one is forcing you to play anything?

ZombieTanker007 #39 Posted Apr 22 2019 - 12:26

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View PostGoat_Rodeo, on Apr 21 2019 - 21:36, said:

 

Only thing wrong with this picture is you have literally a handful of battles, none in lights and denounce them OP. There is such a thing as an informed opinion. 

 

The number of battles I have is irrelevant.  It literally has zero to do with the fact that 9 out of 10 players earning General play lights.  I love how people are so quick to try and debunk another players argument by pointing out something so asinine as how many battles they have played.  My post was not about how easy it is for a light to operate un-impinged in FL, or how easy it is for them to kill me one on one when I'm playing my TS-5.

 

What does an alt account have to do about taking someone seriously?  If that is your only argument against my observations I'll gladly take it, because it makes you look like an [edited].  How is my point any less valid than someone who's played 10000 games?  Do you take their observations more seriously?  If so, you sir are close minded.  I'd love for you to explain how my original post is not at all valid, and I am 100% wrong?  You can't because what I posted, and what many others have been posting is the truth, and the only way you can try to debunk what I said is by pointing out how many battles I have fought.  If my number of battles is all you can focus on instead of the actual issue then maybe you should stop posting stuff that contributes zero to the discussion.

 

Uninformed eh?  So I imagined that 6 out of the 7 players that got General in the FL I was talking about played lights?  How is that being uninformed?  That is actually the opposite of being uninformed.  Keep living in denial though.


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View PostGoat_Rodeo, on Apr 22 2019 - 01:28, said:

 

It’s a weird alt though with a number of tier 8 prems. But when people hide behind alt accounts, it’s kinda hard to take them seriously. 

 

What does this have to do with my original post?  What does it have to do with 6 out of 7 people getting General played lights in the FL I was talking about?  Nadda, thats what.  Keep trying to deflect away from my original post.




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