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Avalon304 #21 Posted Apr 24 2019 - 01:40

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View PostCanadian_Mano, on Apr 23 2019 - 17:28, said:

 

So they edited the article for the 3rd time?

But AP loses less over distance than APCR, why would they give it among the absolute worst pen at range?

 

They havent edited it since I saw it about 2 hours ago, when they first changed to to reflect that the penetration was at 500m and didnt affect the base penetration at 100m.

 

Theyre giving this tank a role now: that of a mid range support tank and ridge fighter. Meaning shooting from 500m should be the last thing youre trying to do, especially because they also are buffing the turret armor:

 

http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/602695-crazy-nerfs-to-stb-1/page__p__12089237#entry12089237

 

Plus... even in the STB-1 now... if youre sniping at 500m youre doing something incredibly wrong, and the current 248mm at 500m isnt exactly that much better, effectively, than the new 232mm at 500m will be...

 

View PostSloppySEC0NDS, on Apr 23 2019 - 17:40, said:

They made the Leo 1 worse...way to go WG

 

 

They really didnt.


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Die95 #22 Posted Apr 24 2019 - 09:14

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Not sure why the Leopard needed to be changed so drastically. Its biggest issue was its complete inability to fire on the move due to its poor soft stats. It still retains them after this rework, as one can see the 430U still has better dispersion when moving and traversing than the Leopard despite its nerf. In addition, the 70km/h top speed is unneeded, but they are nerfing the power/weight ratio by an unknown amount in exchange, along with its traverse and reverse speeds. The HP nerf is also unnecessary to what is already one of if not the most squishy meds at tier 10. 

 

The STB-1 has also been completely gutted. It loses way too much in exchange for the hydro-pneumatic suspension. The biggest issue by trying to make the STB-1 a hill brawler is its lack of turret armour and its poor gun handling. The gun handling has been slightly improved, but the dispersion nerfed in exchange, not sure what WG is trying to do here. It seems all over the place.

 

AMX-30B changes look good so far, will make it a bit better. 

 

The biggest issue with the 430U is its armour layout. Nerfing the dpm and the gun handling will reduce the performance of the tank, but it fails to address the core issue of the tank.



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View PostDie95, on Apr 24 2019 - 01:14, said:

The STB-1 has also been completely gutted. It loses way too much in exchange for the hydro-pneumatic suspension. The biggest issue by trying to make the STB-1 a hill brawler is its lack of turret armour and its poor gun handling. The gun handling has been slightly improved, but the dispersion nerfed in exchange, not sure what WG is trying to do here. It seems all over the place.

 

Base dispersion is super irrelevant, and even if it wasnt, losing 0.01 off of it still would be super irrelevant. Meanwhile you are getting better turret armor and better gun handling with the same base penetration of 258mm. Theyre literally trying to restore the tank to what it used to be before the HD remodel.



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View PostAvalon304, on Apr 24 2019 - 04:32, said:

 

Base dispersion is super irrelevant, and even if it wasnt, losing 0.01 off of it still would be super irrelevant. Meanwhile you are getting better turret armor and better gun handling with the same base penetration of 258mm. Theyre literally trying to restore the tank to what it used to be before the HD remodel.

 

Base dispersion is somewhat important yes, it generally makes the circle smaller. turret armour still frontally pennable my dude, so not enough, better gun handling? only tank moving/traverse getting buffed, turret rotation still kills it. This list of changes, is making one of the worst t10 meds, and making it still one of the worst t10 meds.

 

How to fix STB-1 for Dummies

Buff turret armour

Accuracy to .33 base

Dispersion values .09/.09/.07

Top speed 56

Terrain resistance .77/.86/1.36






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