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MM still broken bottom tier every game facerolled 5 games in a row sever pop down 7000

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anonym_5ROXMbAGhQHJ #1 Posted Apr 24 2019 - 00:47

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The title says it all.  Some of you may be familiar with my opinion on the pitiful state of the MM system.  I can deal with losses, and I can deal with the occasional faceroll but when it happens 4 games in a row while never once being top tier, well that is broken.  The ironic thing about this is games like these have become even more common since they "fixed" MM.  Anyone who disagrees please tell me how being facerolled 4 games in a row in tier 7-9 is fine?

 

EDIT:  Also thought I'd point out that the server population has dropped by around 8000 in a week.  This time last week it was close to 25000, right before I logged it was just under 16000.

 

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TheMadPizzler #2 Posted Apr 24 2019 - 00:50

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MM has very little to do with lopsided wins/losses.   Channelization and the domino effect are the main cause.

StoveBolt54 #3 Posted Apr 24 2019 - 00:52

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Last week at this time Frontlines was on its 2nd day.

Buttknuckle #4 Posted Apr 24 2019 - 00:54

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I think you mean "change" MM. To "fix" implies that something is broken. The current MM system is working as intended and thus doesn't need to be "fixed."

Also, if you are hoping for a change it is generally considered good form to at least offer some suggestion on how it should be changed. Expecting people to implicitly know what you're vision of an ideal system might be is unreasonable.



JakeTheMystic #5 Posted Apr 24 2019 - 00:55

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Reported for name and shame 

 

"I'm not top tier, so MM sucks. Let me post screenshots on the forums shaming my team for being bad."



MCBAIN4EVER #6 Posted Apr 24 2019 - 01:00

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Edited by MCBAIN4EVER, Apr 24 2019 - 01:05.


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View PostZombieTanker007, on Apr 24 2019 - 00:47, said:

The title says it all.  Some of you may be familiar with my opinion on the pitiful state of the MM system.  I can deal with losses, and I can deal with the occasional faceroll but when it happens 4 games in a row while never once being top tier, well that is broken.  The ironic thing about this is games like these have become even more common since they "fixed" MM.  Anyone who disagrees please tell me how being facerolled 4 games in a row in tier 7-9 is fine?

https://i.ibb.co/SwPW0yw/Untitled-1.jpg

 

EDIT:  Also thought I'd point out that the server population has dropped by around 8000 in a week.  This time last week it was close to 25000, right before I logged it was just under 16000.

 

stop crying reroller

gingerted91 #8 Posted Apr 24 2019 - 01:09

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Dunning? Dunning? Dunning?
 
Um, he's sick. My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this player who's going with the girl who saw Dunning pass out playing WoT on stream last night. I guess it's pretty serious.

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echo9835 #9 Posted Apr 24 2019 - 01:13

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m8, MM is working as intended. love it or leave it. you don't have to play.

POLIZEI110 #10 Posted Apr 24 2019 - 01:14

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MM is not the problem, RNG is!!!

When they apply a -25% rng handicap on  half the players and keep putting them all one one side, the result is a losing streak.

Look it so freaking easy to recognize you are being handicapped and when it's happening, you have two choices, stop playing for a few days, or grab a premium tank and mass suicide them!



FastForward7 #11 Posted Apr 24 2019 - 01:28

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View PostButtknuckle, on Apr 24 2019 - 00:54, said:

I think you mean "change" MM. To "fix" implies that something is broken. The current MM system is working as intended and thus doesn't need to be "fixed."

Also, if you are hoping for a change it is generally considered good form to at least offer some suggestion on how it should be changed. Expecting people to implicitly know what you're vision of an ideal system might be is unreasonable.

 

Eh, I think OP had it right. Just because something is working as intended, doesn't mean it's working well, or having the desired effect. The laws that govern our nation (assuming you're American) are working as intended, but are clearly showing some pretty disastrous flaws. 

 

The desired effect for WG is to run a game that's fun, and that people want to play and spend money on. All these absurdly lopsided battles clearly aren't helping them achieve that end, as server stats clearly indicate. 



Ortinoth_ #12 Posted Apr 24 2019 - 01:37

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View PostZombieTanker007, on Apr 23 2019 - 16:47, said:

The title says it all.  Some of you may be familiar with my opinion on the pitiful state of the MM system.  I can deal with losses, and I can deal with the occasional faceroll but when it happens 4 games in a row while never once being top tier, well that is broken.  The ironic thing about this is games like these have become even more common since they "fixed" MM.  Anyone who disagrees please tell me how being facerolled 4 games in a row in tier 7-9 is fine?

https://i.ibb.co/SwPW0yw/Untitled-1.jpg

 

EDIT:  Also thought I'd point out that the server population has dropped by around 8000 in a week.  This time last week it was close to 25000, right before I logged it was just under 16000.

 

First of all your hiding behind an alt account - can't post from your main account - MM is perfectly fine - There will always be steamrolls in randoms because how players play the match - if they fail to take key points in the map or hold them then for sure a loss is coming - and also many players are burnt out from last weeks grind its perfectly fine to be back around 20k nightly 

jst2gr8 #13 Posted Apr 24 2019 - 01:42

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Hmmmm, less than 1k games and already crying about mm!? How about learning the game before you complain about something that doesn't need fixed or "changed". People are always going to have issues with MM when they do nothing to help a team win.

 

So all I read from the op is, "BOOOOO-HOOOOO, I want a free win".



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View PostFastForward7, on Apr 24 2019 - 01:28, said:

 

Eh, I think OP had it right. Just because something is working as intended, doesn't mean it's working well, or having the desired effect. The laws that govern our nation (assuming you're American) are working as intended, but are clearly showing some pretty disastrous flaws. 

 

The desired effect for WG is to run a game that's fun, and that people want to play and spend money on. All these absurdly lopsided battles clearly aren't helping them achieve that end, as server stats clearly indicate. 

 

I think that this is what it's all about!....

VooDooKobra #15 Posted Apr 24 2019 - 02:25

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View PostPOLIZEI110, on Apr 23 2019 - 17:14, said:

MM is not the problem, RNG is!!!

When they apply a -25% rng handicap on  half the players and keep putting them all one one side, the result is a losing streak.

Look it so freaking easy to recognize you are being handicapped and when it's happening, you have two choices, stop playing for a few days, or grab a premium tank and mass suicide them!

 

Still showing you have no clue how RNG works I see

DeleriousDeadwood #16 Posted Apr 24 2019 - 03:54

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3/5/7 or ANY match where you are bottom tier vs tanks two tiers above you needs to stop. Period.

 

Three arty in a match is two too many.

 

If I had a gift to give to WoT Dev team it would be a clue.


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View PostDeleriousDeadwood, on Apr 23 2019 - 21:54, said:

3/5/7 or ANY match where you are bottom tier vs tanks two tiers above you needs to stop. Period.

 

Three arty in a match is two too many.

 

If I had a gift to give to WoT Dev team it would be a clue.

 

I disagree. The complaint for most rational players was not about 3/5/7 is was the frequency of seeing the template. As for arty, limiting it to one per side would only eliminate those nice arty free matches. I prefer to see WG balance the arty mechanic until you don't really notice if there are three on each side. 

 

As for the OP, rerolling so you can post on the forums anonymously and then posting screen shots showing your real account is kinda dumb but, when you think about it, perfectly in line with the quality of his posting. 



DeleriousDeadwood #18 Posted Apr 24 2019 - 04:21

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It's fairly evident from the postings on the forums there are a lot of folks not happy with being low tier all the time and a LOT of folks not happy with three (or two) arty.

 

So, it comes down to money. I'm not spending any more on this until they make some real positive changes. And you know what, if enough people stop giving them their money it's possible someone somewhere will notice and start canning folks. And the vision will change.



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View PostDeleriousDeadwood, on Apr 23 2019 - 20:21, said:

It's fairly evident from the postings on the forums there are a lot of folks not happy with being low tier all the time and a LOT of folks not happy with three (or two) arty.

 

So, it comes down to money. I'm not spending any more on this until they make some real positive changes. And you know what, if enough people stop giving them their money it's possible someone somewhere will notice and start canning folks. And the vision will change.

 

so who is getting low tier all the time since the mm tweaks, over 100 tier 8 games tracked and I am in no way seeing bottom tier all the time.    The amount of +/- 1 and even tier matches have gone up considerably.  So far my longest bottom tier streak is 3, although 4 is not outside the realm of possibility it is still better than 80% of the time.  If you do not consider this a positive change I am unsure what you are looking for

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View PostVooDooKobra, on Apr 23 2019 - 22:50, said:

 

so who is getting low tier all the time since the mm tweaks, over 100 tier 8 games tracked and I am in no way seeing bottom tier all the time.    The amount of +/- 1 and even tier matches have gone up considerably.  So far my longest bottom tier streak is 3, although 4 is not outside the realm of possibility it is still better than 80% of the time.  If you do not consider this a positive change I am unsure what you are looking for

 

He wants to be top tier all the time in games with no arty where his heavily armored tank is never penned and his shots hit and pen every time. 




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