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BYK_Chainsaw #1 Posted Apr 25 2019 - 06:52

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  I gots me lots of universal fragments but I need 3 or 4 nations fragments but only have 1 per nation so I can't do anything

with them, anyway I can increase my receiving nations fragments? 



the_Deadly_Bulb #2 Posted Apr 25 2019 - 07:18

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View PostBYK_Chainsaw, on Apr 24 2019 - 21:52, said:

  I gots me lots of universal fragments but I need 3 or 4 nations fragments but only have 1 per nation so I can't do anything

with them, anyway I can increase my receiving nations fragments? 

 

Seems as though its random.

The more tanks you have the more universal or national fragments you seem to get.

If you already have a tank that you were to receive a fragment for in an AoM that fragment will instead turn into either a universal or national fragment.

So far my experience has been that of the 2 types universal are more common than national.


Edited by the_Deadly_Bulb, Apr 25 2019 - 07:21.


NightmareMk9 #3 Posted Apr 25 2019 - 08:53

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The drop ratio is all messed up.  Probably because I only have 10 tanks left to research.

I have:

44 Universal 

18 National (6 for China alone)

 

I have 5 on the tanks I need to research.

 

That is after using 12 Universal and 3 RU.

 



PTwr #4 Posted Apr 25 2019 - 11:13

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If I am not mistaken, you do not get Nationals for nations you have fully completed. So with each finished tech tree your loot should get skewed more and more toward Universals. With only two small nations completed I am at around 4:1 ratio, which is good because same ratio is used in crafting. Getting Nationals in nation I'd want them does not seem to be controlable.

 

Even at over 75% tanks researched I still got more Tank blueprints than Nationals so far, so RNG might be a bit cheatibg or I might be just lucky. 



Mayhem_VI #5 Posted Apr 25 2019 - 16:00

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I have 9 Universal, 3 German (which I'll never need) and no other Nationals.  I need 2 Russian fragments to research A-43, which seems to cancel out the "Universal" thing.  Out of all the gift boxes I've received, the 3 German are the only Nationals I've gotten.   

 

I try not to complain about freebies but the thrill of the Universal fragment is a bit lost to me.



MrMysterious #6 Posted Apr 30 2019 - 01:13

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when you have the whole tree researched this is what you get:

 

123 Universal Fragments

0 National Fragments

 

Way to go Wargaming makes me want to keep playing



Rundog #7 Posted Apr 30 2019 - 01:17

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View PostMrMysterious, on Apr 30 2019 - 12:13, said:

when you have the whole tree researched this is what you get:

 

123 Universal Fragments

0 National Fragments

 

Way to go Wargaming makes me want to keep playing

 

Yeah I'm working the Swedish meds. It'd be nice to even make 1 piece of a blueprint. But alas, national fragments are hard to come by.

MrMysterious #8 Posted Apr 30 2019 - 03:30

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View PostRundog, on Apr 30 2019 - 00:17, said:

 

Yeah I'm working the Swedish meds. It'd be nice to even make 1 piece of a blueprint. But alas, national fragments are hard to come by.

 

NO, when you have the whole tree researched national fragments are IMPOSSIBLE.

Scrawnybeaver #9 Posted Apr 30 2019 - 12:34

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I have 38 universal fragments but only 3 national fragments (1 each for three different nations).  I still have a lot of tanks to grind but those universal fragments are pretty much useless at this point unless my luck turns and I start getting more national fragments.

mbrolin #10 Posted Apr 30 2019 - 12:46

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Yeah, the ratio on National vs Universal is all messed up. They definitely should implement a trade of universal blue prints for a National one. Even at 10 Universal to get one National would be a good trade.

13Jake55 #11 Posted Apr 30 2019 - 13:24

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I wish there was. I have the IS7 ready to research.  I did ger 1 IS7 frag and used 4 of my 5 russian and some universal to make another frag. Oh well it does give me a good discount and with the prem bonus they have now I can make a lot of xp.

Mojo_Riesing #12 Posted Apr 30 2019 - 14:22

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The whole blueprint concept is...just dopey. Could have been interesting but it's poorly implemented.

vinnybagadonuts #13 Posted Apr 30 2019 - 18:04

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why do you need national fragments for a tree you have completed?

 

what would you ever do with it?  at least universals can be used on any tree that you are still grinding (and can get national drops for)



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View PostMrMysterious, on Apr 29 2019 - 18:30, said:

 

NO, when you have the whole tree researched national fragments are IMPOSSIBLE.

 

When you have an entire line researched BP of any kind are pointless, that's why they don't drop for lines you have fully researched.

If you were going to get a BP fragment for that line it will instead drop a universal


Edited by the_Deadly_Bulb, Apr 30 2019 - 18:10.


the_Deadly_Bulb #15 Posted Apr 30 2019 - 18:14

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View PostMojo_Riesing, on Apr 30 2019 - 05:22, said:

The whole blueprint concept is...just dopey. Could have been interesting but it's poorly implemented.

 

How so?

IMO its a fabulous grind/time saver especially for new players.

Its also a welcome grind and time saver for those of us who are only really grinding higher tiers.

Who doesn't appreciate several thousand XP less to get that next tank that can be achieved with just a single fragment?

Not like you have to do anything beyond play to get them.

They don't require PT, any particular tier, or winning.

They really are just random gifts from WG, and everyone gets them.


Edited by the_Deadly_Bulb, Apr 30 2019 - 18:15.


Matross #16 Posted May 05 2019 - 16:41

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What happens if you fully researched a nation, but still have left a national fragment of that nation? Is there anything you do with it? Or... do you have to wait until WG comes out with another branch in that line?

I.e. I have researched every Italian tank in the Italian tank tree, but still have a left over Italian national fragment.

SporkBoy #17 Posted May 05 2019 - 17:06

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Players gripe about dwindling population and terrible onboarding experience for fresh blood so WG give blueprints to help new players.

Old players complain.

Matross #18 Posted May 06 2019 - 15:53

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Anyone know what happens to national fragments, that are left over, after you researched the entire nation's line??? I have mild OCD, and my extra Italian national fragment is bothering me... I already researched the entire line (except modules on some tanks).

 

Please help!



Tao_Te_Tomato #19 Posted May 06 2019 - 15:58

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View PostSporkBoy, on May 05 2019 - 17:06, said:

Players gripe about dwindling population and terrible onboarding experience for fresh blood so WG give blueprints to help new players.

Old players complain.

 

Even shorter:  "Free stuff.  People complain."  :teethhappy:

HeraldricKnight #20 Posted May 06 2019 - 16:08

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I actually like the distribution of fragments and blue prints. The idea of Rewards for Merit was probably one of the best things to come out of Wargaming in a while, so I can't really complain about them. 






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