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Craftspirit #1 Posted Apr 26 2019 - 14:44

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I noticed today that the Pz II J (a really broken and extremely rare tier 3 tank, for those who dont know) is on sale in the Premium Shop in a 99,99$ bundle including 24k golds

 

So, WG, low tier isnt cancer enough for you?

 

What do you guys think?

 

https://na.wargaming...wot/main/11228/



Hellsfog #2 Posted Apr 26 2019 - 14:50

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I think you'll lose 100,000 credits every game you play in it. 

GenPanzer #3 Posted Apr 26 2019 - 14:51

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I think WG wants money, so they are creating different packages to entice players to spend money.

Craftspirit #4 Posted Apr 26 2019 - 14:54

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View PostHellsfog, on Apr 26 2019 - 09:50, said:

I think you'll lose 100,000 credits every game you play in it. 

 

One of the most p2w tank in WoT history : lets pay 100$ to be broken as hell on tier 3 matches, and also its litterraly MADE for goldspam since it can't pen anything with standard rounds



heavymetal1967 #5 Posted Apr 26 2019 - 14:55

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Per Yankee's post in the other thread and my limited experience in classic it's not what it used to be tbh. 

 

But still it will potentially cause new players enough angst they may say screw it.  Which is your point - I think.

 

And folks will still buy it cause they can.  And honestly folks in need of gold will likely bite as well.  As they're basically giving you a collector's tank for 1k gold.  Same price as the 25k gold package folks.

 

Edit:  But players buying it to club in will spend the creds and spam the prem nonetheless.  And WG knows this as well as potential effect on new players at that tier.  And they know folks will buy it at the price.  Essentially a free tank for 1k gold if you compare it to the 25k gold package price.  Plus a slot and a free crew which is pretty much worthless unless you retrain them to a new light for silver.   But they'll rake in cash which is their plan.

 

 


Edited by heavymetal1967, Apr 26 2019 - 15:02.


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View PostGenPanzer, on Apr 26 2019 - 07:51, said:

I think WG wants money, so they are creating different packages to entice players to spend money.

 

Since a LOT of people have stopped spending money with WG until things improve (MM, Clown Cars, OP Tanks, Game Drops, etc.), WG needs to find alternative sources of revenue ... hence the sale of the Defender, Px II J, LeafBlower, etc.  Well, IMHO anyways.

the_dude_76 #7 Posted Apr 26 2019 - 14:59

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I think the 2J isn't anywhere near as dominant as it used to be. Tier 3 TD's and most tier 4 tanks chew right through it. Those 1 versus 10 replays that you see on YouTube happen about 1 in 10,000 battles with it. In other words I think most of the people who fork out 100 bucks are going to be sorely disappointed, this is little more than a collectors tank at this point. 

kapri25 #8 Posted Apr 26 2019 - 15:07

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Same as it ever was...

PTwr #9 Posted Apr 26 2019 - 15:11

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Heh. And now people sit around with aniversary coupon they cant use on PzJ. :] 

YANKEE137 #10 Posted Apr 26 2019 - 15:14

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Take out the Swede T3 TD with the 90mm gun and you'll destroy the J from five miles away.

Zourn #11 Posted Apr 26 2019 - 15:18

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Seal Slaughter :izmena:

Hellsfog #12 Posted Apr 26 2019 - 15:28

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View PostCraftspirit, on Apr 26 2019 - 08:54, said:

 

One of the most p2w tank in WoT history : lets pay 100$ to be broken as hell on tier 3 matches, and also its litterraly MADE for goldspam since it can't pen anything with standard rounds

 

Literally, you are probably wrong about the tank being pay to win, at least as the game currently sits.  Even when it was released, it wasn't literally pay to win since gold cost real world money so this tank was literally a license to give WG tons of literal cash. Now that gold rounds cost in-game credits, a player will burn through 100,000 per match, which restricts how often it gets played. When it was release MM wasn't going it any favors either and now most tanks can gold round right through it.  

 

Take a breath. The sky is not falling. This tank is not single-handedly ruing tier 3, I promise. 



I_QQ_4_U #13 Posted Apr 26 2019 - 15:36

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It's not as 'broken' as it once might have been and it's going to cost you a fortune to play it. I suspect many will regret buying it.

teamoldmill #14 Posted Apr 26 2019 - 15:59

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Saw one last night. He lasted about 3 minutes and they lost. I always wanted one, no way I can see buying it now.

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Pass

haxmachine21 #16 Posted Apr 26 2019 - 16:09

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View PostHellsfog, on Apr 26 2019 - 08:28, said:

 

Literally, you are probably wrong about the tank being pay to win, at least as the game currently sits.  Even when it was released, it wasn't literally pay to win since gold cost real world money so this tank was literally a license to give WG tons of literal cash. Now that gold rounds cost in-game credits, a player will burn through 100,000 per match, which restricts how often it gets played. When it was release MM wasn't going it any favors either and now most tanks can gold round right through it. 

 

Take a breath. The sky is not falling. This tank is not single-handedly ruing tier 3, I promise.

 

Pretty much this. The Pz.II.J is not as insanely OP as it used to be. Nowadays, you've got the newer tech-tree tanks with fairly powerful top guns, and there are premium tanks of the same tier that can easily outmatch the II.J. Overall, it's nothing more than a novelty buy.

YANKEE137 #17 Posted Apr 26 2019 - 16:13

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It's pretty much pay to lose in 2019. Maybe they'll buff it back to stupid levels, but come on, it's German.  No, if you need the gold or like to collect, enjoy.  But if you think you will be Mr. Invincible with it you're about five years too late.

ChaseR392 #18 Posted Apr 26 2019 - 16:28

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Its a lolz tank you get for free if you buy 25,000 gold at more or less regular price...

 

As far as comments about it breaking lower tier battles? Seriously do people that make comments like this even play in the lower tiers? They quit being any kind of "learning" environment at least a year ago (when I started playing).

 

You've got FCM 36 Pak 40s that out-spot everybody, MLTS-1G14s with double barrel autocannons (for a rare tank I see one nearly every game), Pz1Cs running full gold, etc, etc. The low tiers are 40% clueless noobs, 10% average people taking a break from higher tiers, and 50% seal clubbers or people who are vainly attempting to be seal clubbers. Its a fun change (at times) from higher tiers and that's it...

 

For the record... yes I bought the Pz.II J and it is a fun novelty... its slow, the armor is good but not impervious, and the gun is wimpy.... I refuse to spam 100% gold so I only carry 40 rounds of the good stuff.



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Welp I noticed : just take the Cruiser II with the derp of doom and enjoy

RacWisco #20 Posted Apr 26 2019 - 16:58

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I have it. Bought it when it was still a European code that worked on NA off Ebay. Stupid expensive to run. Still OP, but they nerfed the crap out of the side armor. And too slow to respond if the "other" flank falls and you get capped. Gets a lot more tier 4 than it used to. TDs pop it like a bug. I run it once a month or so. Boring to play it actually. 3 0f us in my Clan had them. One Friday night we platooned them unti lwe shut tier 3 and 4 down with 50 k players on. I believe there were some forum posts about that. 127 is actually a lot better tank at that tier. We ran a lot of Tier 3 tournaments and never used the 2js. 127s for view range and S35s to whack them once lit.

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