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Poll: Tier 8 Buffs. (88 members have cast votes)

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What tier 8 premium tank needs a buff the most?

  1. AMX CDC (25 votes [28.41%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 28.41%

  2. ELC EVEN 90 (7 votes [7.95%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 7.95%

  3. KV-5 (2 votes [2.27%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 2.27%

  4. IS-6 (9 votes [10.23%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 10.23%

  5. Kanonenjagdpanzer (4 votes [4.55%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 4.55%

  6. FCM 50 t (1 vote [1.14%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 1.14%

  7. M4 Rev (4 votes [4.55%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 4.55%

  8. STA-2 (3 votes [3.41%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 3.41%

  9. Wz 111 (1 vote [1.14%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 1.14%

  10. 112 (1 vote [1.14%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 1.14%

  11. Other (31 votes [35.23%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 35.23%

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Royale_with_Cheese #21 Posted May 06 2019 - 12:37

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FV4202 not on list

Vulcan_Spectre #22 Posted May 06 2019 - 13:20

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didnt see a defender :trollface:

Zourn #23 Posted May 06 2019 - 13:35

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IS6 Because it was meant to brawl, but it's gun is too lacking with pen against the current meta of tanks it'll face close quarters along with it's armor(due to high pen meta)(Defenders, Type 4's, IS3-A's using heat, Amx m4 mle).. The list can go for days! The only thing it has going for it is that when it's top tier against tier 6 and 7 it's troll! but it's outclassed in its own tier vs other heavies by miles! my 2 cents!

Veracks #24 Posted May 06 2019 - 13:51

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I'd say the CDC is the one in the worst position right now. It's more or less a strictly inferior FCM 50t, and even that thing is struggling right now. In general though:

 

1.) "Armored" heavies such as the IS-6 and KV-5 are downright useless at the moment. Their guns are horribly pathetic and their armor is irrelevant due to "lemme dab that 2 key" existing. If anything, IS-6 should have its armor made similar to the Defender, and KV-5 should have its tumors made into space armor.

 

2.) "Fast" tanks like the FCM 50t and CDC are pretty useless in a corridor meta. If anything, both should get a gun upgrade to the 100mm (without giving them total derp bloom or aim time, mind you) and a speed buff (56 for the FCM, 64 for the CDC).

 

3.) WZ-111 needs to get the lower plate buff the 112 got. That alone would fix all its problems. Having sections of its upper plate buffed would also be nice, as it has plenty of ~215mm spots that are easily penetrated by even lights now.

 

4.) In the "other" category, T34 needs a complete overhaul. Buff its mobility, turret traverse rate, and so on to match the T29. Buff its gun handling to be ~2.5 aim time with far less bloom. Buff its RoF to be 4.4 or so. I really see no reason to even use a T34 these days with how derpy, awkward, and clumsy it is.

 

As an aside, I have a massive host of premiums sitting in my garage that were from various CW gold or All Star/MVP prizes, yet I rarely use them. I cannot tell you the last time I actually used my JT88 for example. Right now I've found that sticking to the EBR, Defender, and occasionally the AMX M4 M49 is all I ever need. The Defender for example makes it dumb to play any other heavy besides it.



teamoldmill #25 Posted May 06 2019 - 13:56

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Panther 88, by far.

xXNakka #26 Posted May 06 2019 - 14:10

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Panzer 58 Mutz



0pz #27 Posted May 06 2019 - 14:21

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What is "Ravioli" and "AMX that should have only 2 crew members, but we've added the third one so more people will buy it" doing on the list? 

24cups #28 Posted May 06 2019 - 14:27

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I'd say T34 and IS6. I don't have many of the others on the list as I took the advice of those who said they were bad.
I guess that implies they need buffs too.
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nrnstraswa #29 Posted May 06 2019 - 15:33

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Too bad the poll didn't allow for more votes, so many tier 8 premiums need some help. I didn't vote for the pref T8 MMs as they were recently buffed.

 

Top 3 that need the most support imo:

AMX CDC -needs better gun handling overall

FV4202 - powercreeped by RAAC Centurion 

Panther 88 

Honorable mention: T34 - a strong heavy (when hulldown) that suffers on flat maps and hindered by poor mobility, reload and aim times.

 

 



teamoldmill #30 Posted May 06 2019 - 16:04

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I disagree on the T-34 being bad.... it is a perfect premium. It can function as a TD and a light heavy because it has a heavy turret and can hull down. So many other vehicles cannot even do that. And lest we forget, premiums are not supposed to be better than tech tree tanks. We just got used to premiums being better. Not right.

Trauglodyte #31 Posted May 06 2019 - 16:17

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View PostUSSWISCONSIN94, on May 05 2019 - 21:27, said:

CDC but why isn't the T34 on the list as well?

 

CDC > Panther 88.  There is absolutely no argument.  No speed, same level of useless armor, worse pen, worse aim time, worse elevation, worse depression, worse power/weight, worse engine health, worse track health, worse ammo rack health, worse camo...

 

Seriously, complain all that you want but, outside of it being French, the CDC is better, in every regard, than the Panther 88.  The only thing worse than the Panther 88 is the Panther II.  Think about that!



xXTheGameAceXx #32 Posted May 06 2019 - 16:31

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View PostUSSWISCONSIN94, on May 05 2019 - 15:27, said:

CDC but why isn't the T34 on the list as well?

 

Yeah, that's why I put Other. T34 is one of the most out-dated tanks in the game at this point. Been power-crept into oblivion and can't hold a candle to any other heavies of the tier.

tanopasman62 #33 Posted May 06 2019 - 16:45

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View PostVeracks, on May 06 2019 - 13:51, said:

 

 

1.) "Armored" heavies such as the IS-6 and KV-5 are downright useless at the moment. Their guns are horribly pathetic and their armor is irrelevant due to "lemme dab that 2 key" existing. If anything, IS-6 should have its armor made similar to the Defender, and KV-5 should have its tumors made into space armor.

 

 

 

We don't need any more tanks with [edited]proof armor, and the IS-6 gets enough bounces as is, the only thing it needs is a pen buff to 200/250 and it will be fine.

Rundog #34 Posted May 06 2019 - 16:52

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AMX CDC. The gun. I'd be happy with smaller boom or aim time increase. Any further buffs would be too much I think.

Jryder #35 Posted May 06 2019 - 19:41

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View PostYANKEE137, on May 05 2019 - 12:49, said:

You seem to have overlooked the Panther 88- a tier six medium with a tier seven gun at tier 8.

 

Exactly.

Any pole of this nature that doesn't prominently include the P88 isn't a serious pole.

 

Imagine a CDC

Now make it slow (and probably taller as well).

Now you're getting close to the P88.

 



golruul #36 Posted May 06 2019 - 20:07

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I have all these tanks.  I voted CDC because it's the worst by far.

 

Panther88 isn't as bad as the CDC.  At least the Panther has enough armor to not get auto-penned by HE shells.  Panther also has much better fire control.  Mobility isn't as good as CDC but is good enough to get around decently.  The Panther also has more HP and, when combined with the fact it doesn't get auto-penned by higher damage HE, is much more survivable. 

 

That said, I also don't rate the Panther88 highly, either.  It's definitely in my "top 5 worst tier 8 premiums" list.



MountainLion1 #37 Posted May 06 2019 - 22:37

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View PostYANKEE137, on May 05 2019 - 14:49, said:

You seem to have overlooked the Panther 88- a tier six medium with a tier seven gun at tier 8.

 

The Panther 88 is most certainly the worst Tier VIII premium medium in the game. Its over all performance is very sad to say the least.

Edited by MountainLion1, May 06 2019 - 22:39.


ChaseR392 #38 Posted May 07 2019 - 00:11

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I chose the CDC....

 

     It is in desperate need of gun buffs... the huge size and paper armor I can deal with... but it needs to be able to actual hit targets.

 

The Panther 88 needs serious help to....

 

T34, for starters, needs its ROF buffed to its historical 5 rounds a minute, not the current 4.

 

The STA-2 could use some gun buffs too... maybe a boost in muzzle velocity?

 

FV4202 needs a ROF boost.



mr_rotary #39 Posted May 07 2019 - 03:21

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You forgot the American T-34, it's LONG overdue for some love.

Used to be so good before the big nerf it received many moons ago.



Zuikakoo #40 Posted May 07 2019 - 05:05

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The CDC is bad.   Its got No armor, I mean like full damage from HE, no armor.   Its physically bigger than an IS3 and its ground resistances are so god awful that tanks with half the power like the progetto and Mutz have better mobility and WG closed down all the hill climbs so its does not even have the novelty factor.    This tank is a huge soft target with standard mobility and a gun with 200 alpha and standard matchmaking.  




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