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jayali #1 Posted May 18 2019 - 00:09

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in rewards of frontline, i want chose one of them.

which of them is beter??

 



CynicalDutchie #2 Posted May 18 2019 - 00:12

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Emil

BigDollarBillz #3 Posted May 18 2019 - 00:12

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View PostCynicalDutchie, on May 17 2019 - 18:12, said:

Emil

 

I thought the email was just for frontlines though. I could be and probably am wrong. But I thought I read that.

AimElement #4 Posted May 18 2019 - 00:13

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The Emil is gonna be the Rarer one, that's why I'd take it. But I am not even Prestiged once, so it will be a HOT minute until I get close to one.

CynicalDutchie #5 Posted May 18 2019 - 00:20

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View PostBigDollarBillz, on May 18 2019 - 00:12, said:

 

I thought the email was just for frontlines though. I could be and probably am wrong. But I thought I read that.

 

It's a frontline reward but you can use it in any battle mode you want.

cloudwalkr #6 Posted May 18 2019 - 00:43

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View PostBigDollarBillz, on May 18 2019 - 00:12, said:

 

I thought the email was just for frontlines though. I could be and probably am wrong. But I thought I read that.

 

it should be a usable tank in any mode bud.  Don't expect it to have the credit modifier of a normal premium though.  That would surprise me.

mlinke #7 Posted May 18 2019 - 00:54

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Wz all the way. Emil is garbage. No armor and reload is terrible. Slow as a brick. Just rare as people say. Nothing else. Wz makes money and after buff its amazing.

 



F1O1 #8 Posted May 18 2019 - 02:12

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View Postmlinke, on May 17 2019 - 23:54, said:

Wz all the way. Emil is garbage. No armor and reload is terrible. Slow as a brick. Just rare as people say. Nothing else. Wz makes money and after buff its amazing.

 

Upper hull is not bad. Turret is not bad. Though WZ111 has a stronger hull, it is not by much, like maybe 10mm. Emil actually has a better lower hull to even it out, and much smaller  commander hatch vulnerability WZ has. Emil 52 will be among the fastest tier 8 heavy tanks available, bar 50 100 and FCM50T. 45 / 16 speeds, 15+ HP/T, 2.01 soft terrain handling, 28 track traverse are quite good for a heavy tank, certainly faster than WZ111 and something like lS3. Think of it as a faster Patriot or 65T. 

While not having Emil l DPM, Emil 52 has better mobility. l think it is worth the trade. Will Emil 52 be great? Probably not. But will be better than WZ111, that is sure.

 



BadCorps #9 Posted May 21 2019 - 17:23

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EMIL 1951

Gun depression and alpha are better. Plus it has an autoloader


Edited by BadCorps, May 21 2019 - 17:24.


Jryder #10 Posted Jul 03 2019 - 03:30

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I've been wrestling with this decision for a while now. Just when I think I've settled on one, I start thinking of reasons to go with the other.

 

I am not working either of these tanks lines and had no intention of doing so, though I could put a better crew in the Emil 1951 to start (+2 Swedish Women).

I have no Heavies in my FL stable.

I had wanted a heavy with some armor to help with capping duties (WZ 111).

Gun handling on both is less than desirable, but the WZ 111 looks much more palatable from watching endless videos in action.

Great gun depression (Emil 1951).

Very long reload (-Emil 1951).

Great turret (WZ 111). Emil turret is good but weak spots above and below gun barrel as it faces you are not good.

Body armor (WZ 111). Both OK but not great.

Side scraping (WZ 111)

Alpha (WZ 111)

Clip Alpha (Emil 1951).

Base pen (Emil 1951)

SPammo pen (WZ 111)

Aim time (WZ 111)

Accuracy (Emil 1951) Both bad. Emil slightly better stationary, WZ 111 better moving.

Tank traverse (Emil 1951). Emil better but it's close

Turret traverse (WZ 111). 

DPM (WZ 111). About 100dpm difference.

Health (WZ 111)

Ammo cost (Emil 1951)

Pref MM (WZ 111).

 

Basically:

Emil 1951 - autoloader/12 degree gun depression/hard turret is nice combination. Long reload BIG turn off.

WZ 111 - Soviet style heavy with mobility, Russianesque boomstick, and Preferred MM. No remarkable qualities to set it apart.

 

I think I'm going to wait until after week 8 when people have unlocked the AE Phase 1 and get some RL experience with it. If it sucks as bad as the stats look like, I'll just get the Emil and the WZ 111.

 






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